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Participants
Mike Leskinen Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations
Oscar Munoz Chief Executive Officer
Scott Kirby President
Greg Hart Executive Vice President and Chief Operations Officer
Andrew Nocella Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer
Gerry Laderman Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Joe DeNardi Stifel
Jamie Baker JPMorgan
Darryl Genovesi Vertical Research
Hunter Keay Wolfe Research
Daniel McKenzie The Buckingham Research Group
Jose Caiado Credit Suisse
Savanthi Syth Raymond James
Helane Becker Cowen and Company
Mike Linenberg Deutsche Bank
Catherine O'Brien Goldman Sachs
David Vernon Bernstein
David Koenig The Associated Press
Alison Sider The Wall Street Journal
Justin Bachman Bloomberg News
Tracy Rucinski Reuters
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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to United Continental Holdings Earnings Conference Call for the First Quarter 2019. My name is Vanessa, and I will be your conference facilitator today.

Following the initial remarks from management, we will open-up the lines for questions. [Operator Instructions] This call is being recorded and is copyrighted. Please note that no portion of the call maybe recorded, transcribed or rebroadcast without the company's permission.

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Mike Leskinen

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Oscar Munoz

for Mike joining and you, you all today. of us Thank my thanks to

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Scott Kirby

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Greg Hart

Thanks Scott.

As number in Oscar we Scott a faced of unexpected the events and already mentioned, quarter.

of these of our challenges extraordinary and through employees through XX,XXX proud who over particularly for care went lengths to are worked dedication We the customers.

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have of closure with to of The continue February, the to in our the X has operating represent decision our First, On find announced Then for Delhi us flights. and the we But to March shutdown. The we to stage were through team to closure airspace. the government to flights crews started order the in Pakistani X.X% XX, flight. our minimize disservice Mumbai ground unfortunately, the customers. to quarter suspend to hard had the required order the solution which Germany off July the MAX impacted capacity in service worked January to refuel India, our a by a in FAA in aircraft.

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Andrew Nocella

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for Our entity first quarter best-performing was the the Pacific.

albeit quarter PRASM region represents consecutive strong for quarter was moderate our the as the continued is expect our performance across the we X.X%, fourth with above second more and growth. Latin X.X% our and in in increase well quarter expectations of PRASM strong flights which quarter robust levels. Demand First shown for RASM. early increased America strong was at

also by April. in demand May expect by shift the in in to comps in creating for the inflection weak entirely to we even quarter PRASM of negative. strong quarter, turn quarter is yields quarter to time with the continued since in XXXX, economy Easter both expect main significant of healthy the most to due decreased part but well. the strong, front In positive a quarter PRASM to continues first X.X% across the difficult shift however region, Atlantic. expected for Easter the We We Brazil very cabins. looks pricing. cabin anticipated while do driven the The second second stronger second be a Argentina for due performance a for the April. cabin Europe of challenging first will cabin look

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Gerry Laderman

Thanks, Andrew. Good everyone. quarter second our and quarter we earnings first investor released morning, our update. Yesterday afternoon, XXXX

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Mike Leskinen

Thanks, Gerry.

will questions from to the questions take the and limit analyst ask Please one we the question. take a question please we'll procedure describe needed question. First, Vanessa, media. if to community. yourself Then follow-up from one

Operator

And first [Operator have you. Thank from ahead. go we Joe DeNardi. Stifel, Instructions] Please

Joe DeNardi

Would thought that got Delta's recent you they deficit or be with maybe about Based United's so economics margin deal, point. to your math? XX% may points X.X now. improved XXXX would that economics imply that the like morning. disagree so, you by the seems is point from headwind X yes. closer it mentioned to earnings X call were card on Scott, Yes, margin Good in you on

Scott Kirby

is certainly disagree said, We're going number the a not your what with think opportunity. the we of this but we as affirm to proactively size the we significant on opportunity. the is potential would opportunity, and So analysis

Joe DeNardi

And then, bit little smaller of of Delta kind versus level, and potential earnings United American. the from in just Scott, -- Okay. you terms a now quite passengers at card, is think the a as for bit higher about least,

do we with then, And how that reconcile Is So market Scott, a have you with eventually? Chase that negotiations? you. could Like, card formally airline? Is just, why smaller as get mentioned you card in that your economics what Thank penetration? be negotiations in spend you're in like have now. do your a card now? been little better per guys change rate higher? Or you you're economics you negotiations for a Do while

Scott Kirby

best firstly, lot conversations to with I a essentially is not our number talk the is about have the which of smaller, is describe D.C., tough in that we're going if our United market it of Denver, the in indicative of Look, first, Los fair the about at fact it's Well, We passengers negotiations. Houston, Chicago, San Washington opportunity. revenues, hubs same, and Chase to think And Francisco to is look certainly Angeles. start. while you the York, New

most the markets it we with them. Great the question around working we are for with demand. are of that with potential and we think markets no card realizing spend. premium the -- have I incomes, high that potential. a issue best the think hard is And markets there's The with Chase I they that for have premier set best there's no question cards and is total

ongoing We hard both solution both sides more that are and recent of for win-win actively in United economics discussions work gets but more customers for us. the engaged boost that work little them. from are have competitive that Those a working got hopefully bit and been and with Chase of a on for announcement, more octane and

Joe DeNardi

Thanks, Scott.

Scott Kirby

really -- ask to we're to are on to and the we we way have same in not anything please. add don't really ask card, again so the going try over by And the not over we -- to questions future the

Joe DeNardi

enough. Fair

Operator

Thank you. have Baker. Jamie From JPMorgan, we

Jamie Baker

taking Oh, my good thank for and morning, you question.

were MAX Gerry's Greg, the have Following for observations, you walk those is even smaller. below us up on other of fact when I'm mechanics imply for well how over-spared cancellations fleet margins the begin a pushing off by pressures trying adjusting bit? date on the Does accomplished through you been post-July, operators, is actually What potential the your just to to Can that maybe show U.S. do but Was it better nonessential to with? up? it maintenance? understand

Greg Hart

the we is we're Hey, risk to for including, schedule we around the because or flexibility of could of some tough many manage, was some we combination Thanks question. things do can aircraft. aircraft that within as month two, really beyond hangar preclude combination a manage doing little of things. terms utilizing frame. take Jamie, a It there did the the recover in not time we this gets our check as have in that maintenance something we that to to moved Greg. events for deferred of it a able the maintenance plans We was it spares operational But that, XX had. some was But the really our changed well a and With of we maintenance and heavy are schedules plans. on given

Jamie Baker

Sure.

That Okay. whoever to And helps. follow-up second, it. would for take like MAX-related

slowing you'd that initially the both assume the exclusive. management we conversation and pilot two that As ALPA potential is for down are think with be with this having focus aviators MAX would all phenomena deal, of otherwise But or the I not? for your timing the a mutually about

Scott Kirby

us And the issue. on not. it's I partner No, would MAX say great that been has a ALPA for

here where appreciate comes all at glove not have safety ongoing at it it so agree negotiations, and we we or in don't ALPA to impacting But the we everything. with far. While process in active their that's work is involvement always But hand negotiations. about the one United hindering we

Jamie Baker

Cool.

thanks Just wanted check. Scott, Greg very and to much.

Scott Kirby

Thanks, Jamie.

Operator

And we Research, from Vertical have Darryl Genovesi.

Darryl Genovesi

move you're morning, of With Good facing this flat issues in both any cleared CASM MAX the flat issues is you down we CASM up the and and thinking a shouldn't XXXX? assuming the to had XXX previously time. in that XXXX are why your talked by about for CASMex some Pakistan the about you down year-end Gerry, Thank there and reason XXXX. guide, to year be everyone. exogenous

Gerry Laderman

be would everything's we said Darryl, on do up we if year, there's reason this that So we what next year. cleared focused wouldn't no

Darryl Genovesi

initiatives Okay. still of that guess to over the some that Are periods. CASMex? there you highlight I opportunities is that I get years are big -- to off-peak helping, the levers what you particularly CASM Are capacity for any focus the next year, big realize you there on other the the that pull would growth to any have X.X guide? during being as

Gerry Laderman

the are probably I kicks would than some as this been in more describe same as which would talking year be for one. we've year There instance gauge, the categories next about.

another But be to Continued better of is efficiency the and our the use continue same. It's the execution. just assets will one. generally, categories

Darryl Genovesi

Okay. us trajectory And could of then from a give also sense just you the CapEx here?

Gerry Laderman

highlighted disclosed XX-K. we the what ties schedule investor our in was next new deliveries to So in for which year, our aircraft update,

Next is a peak year deliveries. wide-body year for

a the you about this number. ballpark XX next than But you XX does XX this more CapEx top year. those year. narrow-bodies you're I incremental the cost That's versus early That can on year of -- is peak. of this It's looking billion too tell have We to give year. versus drive only wide-bodies $X precise

decisions focused CapEx. on making at to We're An XXX-XXXERs the year. example taking we deliveries look it, we're that of that. take how smart after this on wide-body expect come down We very

on aircraft those now as We I'd the end have million above we what where at XX aircraft we're us $XXX expect also depreciate. capital. our that's aircraft if that next And a year those you coming savings. focused can only of that's and CapEx used between on And CapEx improves in $XXX that in. We million cost year. actually look mid-teens mitigating aircraft aircraft of highlight saving first ROIC well new versus the of to

-- of sort talked what before, replacement of is that, grow that non-aircraft can beyond where like and which year, I GDP on a an kind a about of there's and we a number So repeat is next that's can as around CapEx we've you CapEx of find basis growth billion a on But little are see next $X normalized this to year spike. bit year like opportunities annually.

Operator

you. Thank

Research, Hunter Our next question from Wolfe Keay. is

Hunter Keay

Hey, Good everybody. morning thanks.

from the CapEx relative Just plan anything to CASMex? CASM why you bit save progress but have And initial how you've for that CapEx. don't made, did any I a idea the much to to incremental come the little the up on P&L want CapEx diminish more wide-bodies do Gerry? Thanks. you going on about the is

Gerry Laderman

to It really I'd it's now a allows that next addition a -- these planned, are But us just growth much in year keep benefit in that's had plan growth our those it it in aircraft and happens aircraft, the we up -- to effectively, it say have these years. to the wide-bodies been a some for with most had, has newest us they're nice assets for us. spike more But efficient the us CASM to that that plan aircraft. so what do been are consistent allows of a right wide-bodies. that sets few the investing the also for mind, the in retirement there's the and XX-year going older putting all on nicely route we're right alternate redeploy of

Hunter Keay

Right.

system Is travel investments premium then close-in the it strength old in the to to guys Gemini given Scott, strength that all demand you products is now? that the Okay. possible still say are used and you And of underforecasting underforecast the Orion used in making business some demand.

Andrew Nocella

think sorry. Jamie its I -- Andrew, Hunter,

been made the Gemini booking fact we've of careful that lot curve very I and with have demand. reflect our we change think more on close-in to we've a progress

there and there every better we some be go work still from at it. may Gemini. we how rest the year get and obviously learn of we better But with we it upside as day as the we So, of through tweak kind

of that I to QX. So, our the But that's think. did revenue in potential well we and very and to sure conscious more way in start we've to that successfully been curve our to that booking airline QX on doing think we're reflect come we we make the changing

Operator

Thank you.

with Our next from question comes Buckingham Research. Dan McKenzie

Daniel McKenzie

Thanks couple of Hey, questions. good morning. A guys.

some guide full I means the of are first, year regarding distribution the going second investors Expedia to spilling ask, how the for what it with yield. of material then first? that's the news Regarding in negotiations And into inventory overall to is United's guess, media course, Expedia,

you to So, how around I'm can numbers help just that. wondering if some about put think

Andrew Nocella

time we change. not suited most evolve to innovate question. we'll to to were to different partners say Expedia our on United we ways. past. failed. moving and on, earlier Maybe Andrew. many frankly that better stop The year need way of we try can and distribution quite this lot. to is changed the simple be a is clear answer this that to the This have tried and I'll perspective Companies us It's complicated from tickets But many, our hear sell in future

We can in particular abilities very fares. our up as have and optimal distribute we invested that's app are. But selling more just the be transparent to to historically has with cost our Expedia our much quite been website we think our we in sell and sales be content. well lowest own to and where lowest fares effective good come in honestly our

So, we direct really look where relationship forward and are having forward that's to with customers our we Expedia. with going a

Scott Kirby

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Daniel McKenzie

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Andrew Nocella

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Operator

Thank Joe From have Caiado. you. Credit Suisse, we

Jose Caiado

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Andrew Nocella

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Jose Caiado

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Gerry Laderman

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Operator

Raymond we thank Savi have James, And From Syth. you.

Savanthi Syth

expectations will there kind grounding. when this for deliveries Hey, good MAX an impact are morning. be Two quick follow-up on just Could CapEx your on the what resume? year of

Gerry Laderman

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Savanthi Syth

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Greg Hart

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Andrew Nocella

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Operator

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Helane Becker

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Gerry Laderman

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Helane Becker

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Greg Hart

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Helane Becker

you. Thank

Operator

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Mike Linenberg

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Scott Kirby

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Operator

from And Goldman have Sachs, we Catherine O'Brien.

Catherine O’Brien

Good morning, everyone. Thanks for time. the

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Andrew Nocella

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Catherine O’Brien

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Scott Kirby

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Operator

Thank we Barclays, Oglenski. you. Brandon have From

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Andrew Nocella

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Andrew Nocella

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Operator

Thank you. have From Vernon. Bernstein, we David

David Vernon

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Operator

ladies you investor gentlemen. today. our concludes the portion and and thank call And This analyst of

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David Koenig

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Gerry Laderman

deliveries, fourth the we no delivery in no on aircraft scheduled the quarter. So, had for

some quarter but previously were scheduled aircraft no those third quarter, expect Although I deliveries. there to end quarter slipping fourth would that the up fourth of

David Koenig

Okay, great.

Greg Hart

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Scott Kirby

no it's item. importantly, But safety-related

David Koenig

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Greg Hart

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David Koenig

you. Thank Okay. All right.

Operator

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Alison Sider

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Scott Kirby

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Alison Sider

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Scott Kirby

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Operator

Bloomberg From News, Bachman. have you. we Thank Justin

Justin Bachman

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Gerry Laderman

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Justin Bachman

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Gerry Laderman

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Operator

Rucinski. you. Tracy Thank From we Reuters, have

Tracy Rucinski

you One good pilot about the question. Hi, training, Talking requiring quick training will on morning. be simulator MAX?

Greg Hart

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Tracy Rucinski

Okay.

So no decision yet then on simulator training?

Greg Hart

training obviously as any that authorities if regime. added comply Right request. no But -- the with to now, add will we request training, that regulatory if plans simulator federal we to training have our

Operator

now turn back That to you. last was call will I closing question. thank And for remarks. Mike the Leskinen our

Mike Leskinen

questions you if Thanks for joining you any talking to to quarter. and all further Please look to call Media next contact forward we have Relations today. the

Operator

concludes thank gentlemen, you today's and ladies conference. We thank And you this participating. for

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