United Airlines (UAL)

Michael Leskinen VP, Corporate Development & IR
Oscar Munoz CEO & Director
Scott Kirby President
Gerald Laderman EVP & CFO
Andrew Nocella EVP & Chief Commercial Officer
Jamie Baker JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Duane Pfennigwerth Evercore ISI
Myles Walton UBS Investment Bank
Hunter Keay Wolfe Research
Darryl Genovesi Vertical Research Partners
Joseph DeNardi Stifel, Nicolaus & Company
Savanthi Syth Raymond James & Associates
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Good morning, and welcome to United Airlines Holdings' Earnings Conference Call for the First Quarter 2020. My name's Brandon, and I'll be your conference facilitator today. [Operator Instructions].

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Oscar Munoz

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Gerald Laderman

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Michael Leskinen

Thank you, Gerry.

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Jamie Baker

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Gerald Laderman

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Jamie Baker

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Gerald Laderman

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Jamie Baker

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Scott Kirby

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have we Evercore, From Duane Pfennigwerth.

Duane Pfennigwerth

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Scott Kirby

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Duane Pfennigwerth

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Gerald Laderman

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to any reduced we spend going we numbers going be for capital everything we're this to So to where degree we've hit not get from are as our to increasing year.


From UBS, have we Myles Walton.

Myles Walton

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Oscar Munoz

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Scott Kirby

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Myles Walton

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Gerald Laderman


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Hunter Keay

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Scott Kirby

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Hunter Keay

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Gerald Laderman

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Darryl Genovesi

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Gerald Laderman

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Darryl Genovesi

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Gerald Laderman

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Joseph DeNardi

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Gerald Laderman

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Andrew Nocella

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Savanthi Syth

follow-up and one Just one for question me.

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Scott Kirby

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