CynergisTek (CTEK)

Bryan Flynn Investor Relations
JD Abouchar Chairman
Mac McMillan President and Chief Executive Officer
Paul Anthony Chief Financial Officer
Andrew D’Silva B. Riley, FBR
Jeff Bash General Pacific Partners
Avi Fisher Long Cast Advisers
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Good day, everyone, and welcome to the CynergisTek’s Third Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. Today’s call is being recorded. And at this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Brian Flynn, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Bryan Flynn

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JD Abouchar

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Mac McMillan

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Paul Anthony

Mac. Thanks,

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period period ended $X.X increase to previous the for to or period comp same per basic stock-based to to year. cash million per administrative deferred XXXX, At Sales quarter of of compared depreciation million is adjusting $X.X for for diluted and $X.X million Over same compared September acquisition cash the Amortization to turnover attributable $X.X million sales XXXX, acquisition million CynergisTek. income equivalents adjusting for at for XX, we this basic the was million we was stock-based come after for the was end ended $X.X diluted share for million security intangibles $X.X XXXX, $X.X of compared do attributed XXXX earnings next revenue General the $X.XX quarters, the expenses and $X the being million adjusted is of building September for period XX, of the for $X.X to in to XXXX. to as million basic $X.X comp, amortization marketing in the G&A Non-GAAP ended was Non-GAAP the the the period increased expected company the compared year. in $X.X months September income intangibles, comp and depreciation the September per share as income the the at into $X.X $X $X.XX million, gross XXXX, and grow of provision, intangibles, stock-based few services. XXXX million adjusted increased had reported $X.X million marketing million XXXX. three XXXX from of compared continue Net XX, million up and after in quarter. or the amortization and million for we months as adding was $X.X partially of of estimated and back The $X.X for $X.X same of million of due team, margins to three tax XX, the and to $X.XX offset and and same $X.XX XXXX. or to $X.X expenses out in of when CynergisTek the were to increase absorption by to and the experienced recent for basic diluted third CynergisTek expect the XXXX. of million per in for quarter December MDS, same the or to in of company XXXX, from share EBITDA, share $X.X per income again, of which three $X.XX compared third the in million net $X.X of also XXXX, XX, The million and million acquisition acquisition-related operations the XXXX. diluted to the months compared due The and business. same prior

currently to of it. remarks. We for for continue credit on line to back to a portion. million outstanding $X financial line has base and concludes the This I’ll up borrowing limitations, credit maintain closing no over turn subject it the Mac balance to

Mac McMillan

Paul. you, Thank

right projects. model team our exceptional again, are we be hospital importantly, professional please exceed our cybersecurity, advisory the to floor This Operator, the first questions. remarks. and to work market. And providing As and services building for year, concludes close our remediation in placing into investments value. most excellent the service in growing open long-term QX more being MDS leadership in response, name and of and towards we competitive to refining expand customers shareholder look vendor prepared to the move services an and the to and with healthcare offerings out clients and we resources security program that feel making management Incident the our development our for short mission


our We’ll ahead. B. first with Please go Instructions] question from Andrew take [Operator Riley, D’Silva Certainly. FBR.

Andrew D’Silva

good Hey job my call and for good taking at afternoon. this Thanks quarter.

here. of quick Just a questions couple

that older margins. business, First, MDS of think – contracts just focusing some MDS of on received on kind basis. contract. as just you much capable give benefit was a idea Obviously, of I than the us consolidated there of maturing anybody higher no gross this as type from expecting a Could a had the sense from leverage it you I matured? was

Mac McMillan

in the that large implementations, at there have year. there of quarter, the again, practice accounts occur time, we true-ups specific impact true-up would happens always be extended as implementations Yes, point doesn’t common It in case periods But traditionally that completed pretty Andrew, any us. of which that implementation customers. that that It we the case this occur experienced. every some this much this were And may same were level in had can in with resulted two situation, complete a of the this larger year. in normally than very saw we just have for is

Andrew D’Silva

as And that ones for these that the well? I new you as you companies few during talking the Got then the up the some this same are modeling that following fourth a been prepared MDS the remarks, mentioning last turnover of about mentioned are is year. quarter turnover was it. we’ve far the beginning as guys were Okay. quarters, fall-off since

Mac McMillan

we’ve in actually last Andrew. we’ve our it’s been call. new and talked along, we’ve about then since Absolutely, all MDS then, about and Yes, the we’ve And clients. follow-up had fact, not any added more on that talking

terms right So of – MDS increasing the direction in business. going we’re in again actually on we’re the

Andrew D’Silva

Okay. That is great to hear.

as and offerings today, level cross-selling, be the or Do sides? you into currently. seeing as go, or MDS business it’s the security MDS the you fairly cross-sell just into segments you far business security are opportunities to and As between business, similar see the greater both starting up

Mac McMillan

So it’s different kind opportunity. a And I’ll to explain. try of

clients for Whereas, the So a of have have on there than dozen. we less primarily, because opportunity virtually clients. side, great cross-selling MDS into security MDS a couple we offerings, XXX-plus is the

request the discussion one to close we by hopefully, year, before very next the a assessment remarks, a the certainly, year. initial the – different. for that number to cross-seller the thing of received. just vastly customers, our we in from to traditional those the And alone cross-selling contract, now fact, cybersecurity with that very quickly you And of of that very to heard went positively of positive my proposal. The So that is here that first opportunity beginning is has is end very opportunities brought in engaged to so are the terms expect we far, one that’s right in in been probably

that. that fact encouraged with the are in now of But number those MDS more also customers by discussions And as number so encouraged we pipeline opportunities – one, we’re we that have a by for the very well. traditional

a for future. sign the encouraging – that’s it’s So very

Andrew D’Silva

you believe seeing to if the traction a you’re due traction combined because with you decision leading product that do business? seeing that the of sales Are – now you’re you traction? different offerings are kind do makers dealing believe and that Or

Mac McMillan

multiple to actually we one in and you’re things doing absolutely, with of the I successfully we combination that iteration, first going did absolutely but we are is, correct. and of with it’s customer. selling the that So things, are, a others a different mean,

in the with going and CIO. We’re talking

and Compliance We’re with Chief Officer. talking the going in

the and the network printers, to efficiently, are can managing treating that and of more those has opportunity We’re managing talking organizations them that – in going protected. who their on people also pose in an just risk risk has environment, money those to the something by that we’re their data end those be just connected to that’s save as another it not but to addressing printers we’re point as also to

so giving approach. more And us it’s to stakeholders

so terms And the the offering that offering we in also restructured that how terms us. to was than have we we’re of had of it. we had past, that that’s The different it. customer I in way repackaged helping – I the the think services, in offering those made very But and we that it in traditional sense

compared offering a so it’s to now, integrated have I which into competitors. multiple security it’s combination factors. differentiator our of And – a We think our is

Andrew D’Silva

And Okay, question. just last great.

since competition spurred obviously, any additional are in seeing the this that just there same breaches. ones about stories in you the you’re the the industry Has been within that that Or merged? out far really, new many there’s competitive and general landscape goes, As currently, guys market? so as players, are security

Mac McMillan

players. haven’t say, new I So really – sure seen would some are I’m we there

healthcare believe seen have We terms frankly, And actually emerged we the seen haven’t or even people players, new into in in space. actually fact, run some away. it we’ve of back really quite not, head-to-head that

the So competitive think probably it’s the – is pretty much as but it was. I landscape same

Andrew D’Silva

Thank going nice great. right, All much. and luck good Good Fantastic. job, quarter forward. you very

Mac McMillan

you. Thank


question Jeff Pacific next Partners. Bash from Please go our General to with move ahead. We’ll

Jeff Bash

Hi guys, outstanding quarter.

Mac McMillan

Thanks, sir.

Jeff Bash

to XX turnover last there’s you over the a my the service or until on you therefore, a providing year was the little so, years or selling the typically very last tell MDS, so. let Could hospital that in and turnover perspective the and itself more comment little company, taking was me bit And over. that been

the I’m to, turnover to. business little causing So are the puzzled who you losing and as what’s

more So you if there, little color I’d that. provide could a appreciate

Mac McMillan


that’s contracts. five-year helpful to we’re So I understand think, the looking that at is first thing

itself competition, So happen market the to be and their what they which low in as needed in had with changed least, of, clients to is have essentially, pull that could of to model Auxilio of forward feel felt the They those they with able being to it lot job a ourselves contract, much they built client commoditized a with kind model you will, move the we those of of the them as provided more helping market more didn’t were years we Essentially found got and situation if will, from in continue. a you what of with to to make a host of became rate-fixed they at mean what their The will. in where that enough, a I I whole and in services clients a where great When if all terms be now end the proceeded be up, over And efficient. competitive. allowed conversations, done commoditization environments more that that modest those think, that basically had the to offering a able a it offering, at worked traditionally, of to I get they is, which additional type bottom, front the that very pricing – had I terms end. over. by more very turned and services market the that that more value-based to made if difficult you essentially drove competitive,

been one multiple we it wasn’t competition, just was vendors vendor, those the were As that where one – relates it it’s been displaced. to it’s contracts – have it

that, that and restructured nice though on But want good this still in are are one that compete very and margin them come have with the now an clients like in same additional for all have is forward we in But now now guys adding. the to the we for one what’s so added think add at we is those is in the things driven the that’s – our we instance, many additional of driving being of things being going up up model the where and actually we Virtual, the the things. offering new approach, competitive. the into news and nose-to-nose in, we that thing with put with still past. And went that can started Northeast, time, we the have individually where client, now penny-per-page engagement, all of which things we that because that actually those are to opposed I had as those do

Jeff Bash

got Okay, it.

Now of, not unique with what’s or this, Is which out, a respect much the to your not there competition sort Is for lot instant you’re a marketplace competition? response really service? to service, that? roll of about

Mac McMillan

So response interestingly forensic that it, enough, we the we’ve one like the crisis see a as to to to parts there the which, the is holding months. existing competition in you have what the but XX them different competition different CIO or has focused is like most of actual you we’ve essentially, we’ve way for, incident would or around see opposed on been aspects the service. forms asking or customers developed, we’re recovery approaching out approach aspects the our and aspects been would working And are been that that with that last there, the

managed The group there, just and were to, exercises CHIME we response recently we the you as group service, service that working type be it other thing get to them, us like our Or held lot we service? managed would this like we’re run we’ve buy incidents. to like who a is, want incident CIOs ready that this want make we do a of we sure you you how you focus we just-in-time of that to would want a at other with this want one of we want we it a with, our that to because for environment, said, things a there help to and familiar to, effective. want then We want retainer, do up to when a help us did organization as us help familiar service? were come so know by it’s that went you them of asked with event what us and just in you with that the state on is And high and the the you’ll more and afterwards, that manner in you unanimously with during a be readiness. familiar readiness And our we and be you focus you competitors? more incident systems, it Or our across-the-board, recovery, offered asking with and to an familiar

exactly done. so And that’s what we’ve

suite them healthcare, response. We’ll program service handle another build going exercises incident incident. playbooks rest and very least, build help readiness whole unique And that we offer at table afterwards. to is incident talks then that’s them policy services an – their and component managed building how be independent I of their and when we We’re them where our service around a deploy actually to managed is services to response procedures in and they them posture help with recovery incident industry, offers able around there of, respect nobody to and and the know help and – with then their I and that their We’ll response. for of out the be that run help an and our an will to

Jeff Bash

do to last filed was has with question recently. my it And registration good. Very the statement,

you you’re a million-or-so any Given have, year purchase seem the $X have performance on years. next should and line debt of $X to off at the for me paying hand credit the it showing that that million doesn’t the repayments financial you moment difficulty two-plus over price CynergisTek

interested and are you this I’m at a time? on offering why in some more So registering color little

Paul Anthony

expectations immediate as to organizations least ours at structure. as Jeff, to have for and is go an not anything out do part our in capital with at go Yes, and of prepared registration be situation like It’s our statement. uncommon actually of and least this management option there overall no that at that point, an

right there can expectation anything say that. so do immediate like no And I is now, to

Jeff Bash

saying. what I that have say, is one you first I to want you I I really for I this and call. think expect Okay, Mac, on your appreciate. of say just conference that’s sort but to record And

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Mac McMillan

sir. you, Thank


ahead. Thank you. Please hear [Operator Instructions] We’ll Andrew go next [indiscernible] from

Unidentified Analyst

congrats quarter. on the Hello,

Paul Anthony

there. Hello

Unidentified Analyst

CynergisTek quarter? out break That for the really you would the be revenue helpful. Can past

Paul Anthony

don’t Yes, type revenue at specifically financial. we CynergisTek currently break the out this

Unidentified Analyst

comment Well, on been Okay. to growth on Or it? you commenting that get can integrated as growth in on in the trying seasonality? guys as business just especially, you you year-over-year well a sequentially hand have as any rate then

Paul Anthony

some disasters, a of well, resulted that flat the some as and as about business factors saw the security a we been flat. natural we to that there’s restructured CynergisTek Yes. contract some From in business from acquisition, prior that in really of that number of around that we’re the businesses specific as a year-over-year is services was that the natural some And security regarding we’ve one so... and past of result a number factors: was It’s function was that year-over-year, reduction for then revolved well on. CynergisTek this a our revenue as the of what saw growth impacts being talked disaster, a focused in the traditional of of of

Unidentified Analyst

helpful. That’s

one-off of any restructure? – of impacts in from contract have do is with any sort the particular? So natural you you Or just seasonality are it more quantification just this disasters,

Mac McMillan

revenue. those able it to will we able and hurricanes into deferred more Once we’re our people hit back has go really, back, all turned It’s we Yes. work basically, areas, mean, It’s one-off. into back a obviously, finish delivering sometimes. are to as when is – know, go the go I in there.

that took with XXX% that’s as anyone than go the But contract particular way which well. well. and of can’t with the as in client – happen. you’d just delay longer that back like respect restructuring, – back You now that on as – to, just to recognizing but revenue created quickly – are as a things expected, in we With up as and it

that so event – was well. a one-time And expect as that we was

Paul Anthony

see a item in towards in again, But little a business. traditionally side seasonality may security be do some we the played bit And seasonality. QX. There material the hasn’t

So yes.

Unidentified Analyst


do forward, sense of, have for growth And sort any, rate that so for you component? going guys

Mac McMillan

our our as traditional traditionally wood, very we’ve So on at through XXXX, somewhere is. service for around – all year-over-year and renewal of a are rate, very managed have clients seeing existing been renewing it managed we of in a high successful services, Knock we terms growth. have XX%

service, grow as clients in that. to So expect incremental the essentially, mix, in additive IR patient just tends that year-over-year, add new a that, that actually Adding and an new services that we privacy-monitoring to to we the VSM be pace. will

in of increase some But that see that predict be. growth terms think we’ll what hopefully, So percentage I early might to of it’s – it’s over time. too

Unidentified Analyst

Can nature. senses kind really gross That’s you rate one-time helpful. final of, any, that you’d going run to talked give forward? margin benefit, the those, of, question. about in margin And expect a you sort know I

Paul Anthony

that provide We so. Yes. on specifically don’t guidance

Unidentified Analyst

Thank you.


Long hear from with We’ll Fisher next go Please Instructions] [Operator Avi Advisers. Cast ahead. you. Thank

Avi Fisher

thanks Paul question. and good Mac, Hi, and evening taking for my

Paul Anthony

Avi. Hi

Mac McMillan

Avi. Hi

Avi Fisher

Jeff alluded this to earlier.

quite you cost and way debt? through asked than your other significantly. any statement. year, the regard any service around talk about regarding He debt about do there efforts? you that Are talk can flexibility when up I’m you either it? registration you you Is any about thinking bump about you bump with that managing can to that, curious efforts anything or up Next have about general the flexibility

Paul Anthony

other is going to on our with keeping them at point, banks, on speed the well but a with on in with position parties ensure were constantly as investors, nothing business and But do with Avi. to as so up at working so, this from There specific this the that we’re a we financial, nothing specific flow just and obviously cash what’s time. good communicating like Yes.

Avi Fisher

my Thanks Appreciate taking right. for all Okay, question. it.

Paul Anthony

you. Thank


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Mac McMillan

much. our Thank look to And thank today call to for you again and talking very forward soon. to like you everybody we I’d joining


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