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Participants
Scott Minder Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications
Richard Harshman Chief Executive Officer
Patrick DeCourcy Chief Financial Officer
John Sims Executive Vice President, ATI High Performance Materials & Components Segment
Robert Wetherbee Executive Vice President, ATI Flat Rolled Products Group
Kevin Kramer Senior Vice President, Chief Commercial & Marketing Officer
Josh Sullivan Seaport Global Securities, LLC
Chris Olin Longbow Research LLC
Gautam Khanna Cowen and Company, LLC
Richard Safran The Buckingham Research Group Incorporated
Timna Tanners Bank of America Merrill Lynch
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Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Allegheny Technologies Incorporated Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2017 Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Scott Minder, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. sir. ahead, go Please

Scott Minder

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Richard Harshman

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John Sims

Thanks, Rich.

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Robert Wetherbee

John. Thanks

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Patrick DeCourcy

Thanks Bob.

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I over to Now, would the turn call back Rich.

Richard Harshman

John. Okay. and Thanks Bob, Pat,

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Operator

Yes, thank you.

will Josh begin Sullivan [Operator the now with from the comes question And Seaport Global. Instructions] We question-and-answer session. first

Josh Sullivan

Pat. morning, Good Rich and

Richard Harshman

Josh. morning, Good

Patrick DeCourcy

you? Josh. are How Hey,

Josh Sullivan

Good.

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Patrick DeCourcy

for No in Sure. guidance change Josh. XXXX,

year-over-year. with sticking we're improvement XXX point the basis So

well the low into average levels growth the machinery the at gas, points the markets, the up and We dominate you that for and position rebounding is well. to respect – With and in the some think at the for is and XX% was sector for some But years. mark, next over on XXXX. XXXX, billion operating will margin include strength several High the If and to years, looking oil XXX and of the that would percent continue strength noted as equipment approximately in the that three we're basis from additional largest it think $X could us mining aerospace that Performance obviously, largest last for we market which year. has improvement other this specifically segment look XXXX growth we beyond the

On Performance. the defense shouldn't ignore we again, for High aerospace,

So that to largest will next also obviously, drive growth three be years, over the aerospace commercial piece. the will but five aerospace,

Josh Sullivan

Okay, great.

Richard Harshman

Yes. of Josh, with comments. agree Pat’s I all

look do addition, opportunity, XXXX, the think is now XXXX, really between side. especially on and that as In growth energy electrical I you and there

terms of in gas is I we're what commented the large very seeing I’ve the significant slowdown turbines on. think industrial that a OEMs now

we're think I at bottom pretty troughing the close to there.

and and think with OEMs coating the smaller healthy those working some development demand that those we now. R&D activity the in we're And of create turbines, growth in I healthy alloys you're think seeing particular on for value at applications. and I look when of opportunities unique

normalized demand a to I return side. think a you're that gas to more XXXX, turbine XXXX on the between going see and now

Josh Sullivan

to that. operating margin XXXX in headwind breakeven for castings, way then Is in what the High was any on expected quantify in Performance? the the XXXX. thanks there Okay, And to with be

Patrick DeCourcy

in of you So the high year, in so yes, the between total for was it at $XX – terms $XX of the million. $XX and for dollars the million, the for full-year million last when millions teens XXXX, of look loss

close you get breakeven of the magnitude that's to Products. turnaround if Cast the in So

Josh Sullivan

jump I’ll in queue thanks. Okay, back the here.

Patrick DeCourcy

thanks. Okay,

Operator

next from the question Chris Olin Longbow And you. Thank Research. with comes

Chris Olin

good Hey, morning.

Richard Harshman

Hi, Chris. How are you?

Patrick DeCourcy

Chris. Hi,

Chris Olin

Good.

think there, speculation the are ATI guess Material High lot within a today portfolio somehow the had and on better I you has that getting channel of out now unlock I values do segment how assets forward value been there's Performance this FRP visibility, about question appropriate for to Rich, about hidden you specialty a these So like companies type segments here? going potentially is, value of spin-off the or especially there out there. the whether materials the is way

Richard Harshman

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Chris Olin

that's Okay, fair.

that well? still can yet, as Has be you you win update think could an that the give position contract? on Thanks. to happened Just quickly, GEXX decided us you

John Sims

of program contract with The that Hey, program Those been has let negotiations started. GE that on GEXX is Chris, and phase the We're is development in still this not John haven’t going kind well. Sims. yet.

Chris Olin

Okay.

Operator

and with question the And you. Gautam Cowen Thank from Khanna Company. next comes

Gautam Khanna

Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Richard Harshman

Gautam. Good morning,

Patrick DeCourcy

morning, Good Gautam.

Gautam Khanna

could with you I should about the still that still you milestones sort be testing, talk a and in we you're there out qualification bit some are little those anticipating I hoping discussions of just mentioned Rolled. more doing partnership what but what folks was where are you are know timing Flat at you perspective two following?

Robert Wetherbee

Good morning, Gautam. It’s Bob Wetherbee.

a So update. quick I can give you

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long think scale to once see we'll customer just orders. that the of it's your towards up. a half, continued matter winded first end progress that question during I answer is So And happens, we then supporting believe

Gautam Khanna

Okay.

be should agreement. thing? you maybe that guys in So in an sign not maybe It’s QX, QX we kind official anticipating of

Robert Wetherbee

agreements Yes, advantage do and the it from the possible. comes people much long like as as to I for announcements and as the and is public see the competitive candidly they're of keep driven end HRPF themselves humanly that customer when pace on to think commercial ready go by actual the

So I more think realistic. probably QX is

Richard Harshman

are. likely most quarter HRPF half Gautam, think if what into terms And that the our it seeing months first the think continue will of I level qualification second the the second they done of that get indicated, the the I we a we're grow excitement become you volume dramatically. then capabilities pure six as quarter see is look through also and of in some on being expect progress would opportunities the more to the on the see when when what But increasing over these and as the they crystallized – mean would at the basis benefit customers continues year. level we work of conversion of Bob last the part I of

but think just opportunity it's a generate still So it ATI. and we XXXX, long-term a in for real long-term will not

Gautam Khanna

And the you of you haven't else exposure the think And the on kind reduce of done? is assuming done do some is contribution you of that pension on color can there. a) what us a like would one anything you be, sounds reduce hold? give you've already to It your there I cash XXXX could follow-up What all little out? assumptions lot b) mean, remarks. a that kind liability to

Patrick DeCourcy

Sure.

year upcoming cash expected for $XX total. contribution in is this the So between $XX million and million

are respect annuity type million last that take that the outs we've we and in the options for down $XXX can from additional to with So There years. the XXXX. substantially several actions employed cash already

that look a at So we'll taking as be close well.

be as other XXXX. potential looking this for that this to seen, We and operations soft good will to exists maybe here, year asset still returns. on are the that XXXX, the good finally we're quite remaining asset also We in we're actions that not year outstanding are focused a And in forward in focused well close, it had but freeze on that performance XXXX, potential would be a remains very to side. that

closed soft either would of all operations then our So be – now freeze hard or that pension. to the freeze would

we and that's the the So that are those level we of planned actions have contributions expect.

Gautam Khanna

do XXXX, what more… you do In and anticipate sorry, nothing I’m

Patrick DeCourcy

$XXX up around if – million. all holds would back we everything if be XXXX, together,

Gautam Khanna

Okay.

Patrick DeCourcy

assumptions, that's environment rate today's Based the at anticipated you given on look interest well. the but as today's when rates

there what So that at that as well, looking rate little we're but that's a on bias there's could today's upward for bit environment. XXXX based impact

Richard Harshman

plants, take this and it's utilization we very Gautam, mechanism plan The we think year Yes. – qualified a for that, true. businesses, why do the on in period, goes proactive right. rules credit been how to and participants Allegheny funding there mainly from think side the to – include addition, the and slower a I Teledyne is the prolonged Having mean bit, then we reason at – because we it back balance utilize obviously have stay that actions in rules funding, and number closed – of down participant all assumptions can when fully or which that from I – hold side, legacy all the time Teledyne XXXX the assuming said combined. up I level permitted goes by the that doesn't then that hope, the for and will comes control what within that a those – discontinued our which are number lower the looking when or under a are IRS significant little

ways at out structure there at could I that then in I are and that. have strengthening And There some the that So on further we a really are in And an annuitizing liability. have done and work sheet. look some in balance done proactive strategic continued the the further the of being pieces think that. would term, to and well, benefit the terms plan end team for we'll it of result be Pat could mean, look of to longer of reduce other a business. his job of that's the get planned larger opportunities further And outstanding we that looking drawing board way companies defined as out obviously, so continue that

Gautam Khanna

lot Thanks Appreciate guys. it. a

Operator

next question the Buckingham Richard Group. Safran Research Thank And from you. with comes

Richard Safran

you? morning. are good How Gentlemen,

Richard Harshman

Good. Rich. you? morning, Good How are

Richard Safran

Very sheet good, ask cash balance just I to and after Rich, about comments in have XXXX Pat you your improvement, about XXXX. thanks.

wrong. won't for correct this flow free guide You but a assuming feel I'm do cash year, that, I'm you so didn't issue me to if absolutely

make much ask progress beyond Could to way. different guess to do cash XXXX we’re a how topic, XXXX get you of in a And the to going bit year specifically, debt into and much discuss on maybe I maybe how And target? this talk intend capital I'm to do retire about deployment. and cetera? So conversion while coverage that you in intend you Pat, interest you your et

Patrick DeCourcy

improvement mentioned capital substantial definitely the $XXX So we flow within in range that the a CapEx million between $XXX as cash for being coming and we anticipate There's is in million, deployment, full-year. guidance XXXX. for

for we we'll throughout earnings share construct the did some more As generation. become help use the this go that evident can company. give items that information the more flow about that in and cash specific will year to flow We that cash release you

the So share we as gave we plans do out cash to in expand think retire to look continue generation. at pension beyond is more But help be have and very contribution, capital we we'll guidance. opportunity not gave the deployment there flow far as our that debt items as we will some CapEx XXXX that strategy, an in you any XXXX. to in we significant they'll guidance think year that We that the unfold. And

Richard Safran

a Bob, ramp something expecting discuss Okay. you to about or I benefit. want exactly expected what said remember your you you I maybe wanted benefit in? Now and in In modest XXXX could and you're that. that ask about you moderate a Thanks bit in don't if in to factoring for for the Tsingshan. much Tsingshan XXXX. you November, outlook, know how back XXXX more I a full

JV quickly how an to wanted and you update et up just get ramp I So will that get there cetera? think

Robert Wetherbee

to have initial our report line. Rich. and restarted activity up Tsingshan of morning. the well underway. that our We facilities announced with Yes, in DRAP am I We actually start November. as the Good pleased

which crewing full of the customers of great very positive we was the initial together. quality have our in needs market solid and metal have it and and in confirmation responses from of that. We coming to actually expectations the but our organizations complement are have from our a terms their meeting getting perspective, customer We anticipated,

in benefit of HRPF the the to the second and as awaiting in terms We're the up close still should clearance weeks joint the being well the see be here, as first during expect we of the to of expect able we both the manufacturing half and see sale up, of and In XXXX first regulatory venture. year few to final of the quarter. period utilization in the product start ramp which through the ramp half next

So impact. second half it's really a XXXX

Richard Safran

approval government? And Chinese from that's the regulatory

Robert Wetherbee

two. actually There's

has with one this have just The it's We them. approved of other it's we've one government. Chinese more and awaiting so this were through government particular – that of one been before

regulatory following any a problems don't of anticipate So it's just clearance. process, the but we with matter

Richard Safran

help. the for thanks Great,

Operator

Merrill And you. the Tanners from next America Timna Lynch. comes Bank with Thank question of

Timna Tanners

everyone. good Hi, morning,

Richard Harshman

Timna. morning, Good

Patrick DeCourcy

morning, Good Timna.

Timna Tanners

in half stainless all and a normalize a at not on year of strong for So the and in thoughts think nickel-based company, but the of so the you move? a huge you are volume nickel XXXX fully have us? the we seen us Is can by rallied of Can of nickel third any normalized second move aware give assumingly? historically year how and price, benefit that's of nickel margin something you quantified the about moves in alloys nickel have both that kind that should delta from on, some second half the to and

Richard Harshman

impact moves in we're the about some and it's a quarter-over-quarter of quarterly of impacts the There short So were specifically fluctuations. the basis, but on the timeframe. going more because to not a nickel really it's disclose change

did we down year. moves So aggressive some some and there up year, during of the course was the but back movement the in the gradual pretty of have half

with specific be to going on the not to XXXX. we're respect So impact

Patrick DeCourcy

we’re obviously lot we because that buy think I Timna, Hi, aware nickel. a of

stainless nickel. that a company nickel company are and consumes a alloy We we’re

important So it's an element. cost

control As for the the going time, that, don't we be, the a really have is market level forces. is, you said level over know, to long whatever we've any

would preference right, price our nickel is. or stability whatever So be cost for the more of

of yourself standpoint market of from plan. the the others fundamentals at the we of input that dynamics how and the standpoint firms the nickel think construct such producers, the investment in a lot terms as traders, our look from from of of I and use the standpoint So underlying of we

range, view you would be. to over of relative we stability longer the that $X.XX a fundamentals think $X.XX when pound at I a in think standpoint, term I look nickel

from now. that away not far we're that all So

the turn to typically how in in a we of how I generates that are really But scheme very a falling at we units things, which does. important short-term volatility – is everything more the impact inventories. for buy, try stainless our side, of because short-term, and the is the one first results with rising strategy than we can LME of our really think terms we buy. of that time price the more mitigate favorable how speaking Tsingshan a the is we that really the that to in produce, of And great component that the the venture better on volume ever we joint largest nickel

be volatile particular before, those so. have the than to ability on products less commodity ever We

Timna Tanners

Fully appreciate that.

figure any since did it trying an in out we Just get as QX, on handle results that? to out strong if FRP item to contributed call you could that

Patrick DeCourcy

was negative That that Yes. I real that on QX. on actually we think that – I the of that we absence in the of surcharge actually the out-of-phase was experienced impact the yes, impact think had. QX more chrome

If you surcharge look the at the XXXX the impact the of in full-year. think Flat side, really was the on of full-year fluctuation I Rolled minimal

Richard Harshman

Right.

Patrick DeCourcy

QX. and We part then XXXX real chrome in the negative of favorable in had the impact side benefit had we the early in of a

a was not QX the cost lot QX and raw think on favorable the side. I more benefits to normalized I would attribute material performance of

Richard Harshman

and year for early and the second Even price full-year ups the was… stability some hits on in the in nickel, then we half, had but some it

Patrick DeCourcy

first first short-term on downward side chrome the had surcharges. XXXX, of we negatively that, in out-of-phase of we is the impact to And mean, of gave were the quarter I significant a other with hit evidence as in going fluctuation guidance period XXXX some of because being of quarter the that that a

impacted world stability there perfect So a in say when issues. we that's I these would you're not because by prefer out-of-phase surcharge

Timna Tanners

given share ask helpful. issue not necessary? the that you you some think forecast will shares? the to quarter investment again to more wanting your think and by Do need I about I in you were current outright. to people any That's grade. talked Okay. be you just Do issuance achieve wanted know surprised

Richard Harshman

don't cash we transaction. necessary. through shares. We substantially our think forward flow, needs be additional that We don't we the look reduced will that see Yes. with to building And as leverage issue any any

Timna Tanners

the taxes can the you talked U.S., in. can numbers Okay. NOLs several Great. help have if just more know I wondered so that? we squeeze I are one And for extending could in what NOL remind but on impact our us no lower years you about levels to run

Patrick DeCourcy

of amount the but the don't total in through footnote that covered at XX-K. We are And in the disclose at our outstanding, projections we the the end what the be NOLs of decade, to believe we're disclosure the basically, look at.

Richard Harshman

Yes. It at federal be look but don't will the in think be a financial long our we the XXXX. in safe expect assume, XX-K, forecasts, footnote to I when to it's the through significant we at level taxpayer range

Timna Tanners

Thank Okay. right. you. All

Richard Harshman

Thanks. right. Q&A of End All

Operator

Thank you.

Richard Harshman

joining much on Okay. Yes, for thank today. us call very you the

you thank always your Scott? in ATI. continuing As interest for

Scott Minder

call. us Rich. you, today. you are concludes conference XXXX the full-year joining fourth and That for all who our And Thank thank quarter listeners

Operator

Thank you.

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