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INSG Inseego

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Dan Mondor CEO, President & Director
Stephen Smith EVP & CFO
Thomas Walkley Canaccord Genuity
Jaeson Schmidt Lake Street Capital Markets
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Operator

Hello, and welcome to Inseego Corp.'s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2017 Financial Results Conference Call. Please note that today's event is being recorded. [Operator Instructions].

On the call today are Dan Mondor, President and Chief Executive Officer; Steve Smith, Chief Financial Officer; Chris Lytle, Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Vice President of Enterprise SaaS solutions; and Ashish Sharma, Chief Marketing Officer and Executive Vice President of IoT and Mobile Solutions.

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Dan Mondor

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solutions. SaaS Enterprise to turning Now

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enterprise customers. Turning DMS carrier for our to government platform and acquisition DMS. supporting subscription, workflows market-leading is SaaS

continue on close continues and are T-Mobile, have accounts. partnership with We a new growth Subscriber focused to quarter-over-quarter.

Tier than announce due new our longer for contracting the provider to taken has agency it government customer. and between Now, provider delay to DMS, service service X the end expected

We expect in future. to near this announce the

over quarter provide fourth will results I'll to first turn the discuss our Steve, who call Steve? financial Now, quarter guidance. and

Stephen Smith

Dan. Thanks,

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plans and the businesses. strategic comprehensive together budgets highlighting We each put have of

While shape see Accordingly, we XXXX, to guidance the believe have we will forward in additional begin not a this you business on transparency new the transparency. begin is business begin will -- to along way these in step in XXXX. reported going this major dialogue forward. We providing lines

the well a integrate with did into second the process costs tighter or fully this stronger deep business identified streamlined fully the We to should and state IT a agreements, level the business we not with current to quarter. internal systems requirements only but project. back-office initiative of the planning and required controls. We're processes. BPI see launch dive integrated also and to Second, the actions, company's and lower improvement platform the processes first underway system, service the in adherences and expect Ultimately,

and Now onto year. the the quarter of results the

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almost of GAAP X.X of last the gross credit these discontinued mobile solutions was X $X.X $XX.X revenue contract for quarter, reduced points. previously revenue $XXX,XXX of For associated impacting the above the was in same which approximately context, a products, off kind the the period posted $XX.X Favorably a points This sales than higher cost enterprise liabilities. of year margin and for raw was numbers and and margin about goods, with IoT manufacturing million points different solutions a ago. quarter, of and fourth revenue XX.X% quarter million posted million million. to netted $X.X written previously of XX materials SaaS

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include $XXX,XXX costs, Our QX included GAAP $X.X operating expenses or which recoveries OpEx which of been recovery, $X million additional severance completely from lease facilities have offset almost we $XX.X a in released. on in million by restructuring million

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per basis we'll net net that a of QX for of per 'XX. should We on as recent QX and able respectively, have was in or alternative share an in loss $XX.X improvement from recognize the result Year-over-year, for $X.XX GAAP loss of $X.X net and quarter net Our share in a a It $X.XX $XX.X minimum year loss to per and million noted share in reform, the loss share ongoing per we or were XXXX and continue million a XXXX be process. $X.XX, compared of $X.XX opportunities as cost-reduction in to rigorously still full XXXX. net tax $X.XX our approximately loss tax to an pursue QX. to reduced was $XXX,XXX credit room million

Consolidated XX.X%, SaaS, 'XX, in Non-GAAP both QX down were was now Turning from any points the each sequentially XX.X% QX, to our XX.X% QX ago. lines. measures. gross impact 'XX. in we've gross quarter the year-over-year for current product margin to and impairment and and with XX.X% associated XX.X% compared for from In case, margins X.X a excluded benefit year non-GAAP non-GAAP discontinued software services as increased of or from up

to XX.X% hardware the from our unfortunate Overall, on front, services in side, margin gross improvement and non-GAAP 'XX, are gross benefit non-GAAP year down which sequentially to margins total our XXXX. there points SaaS, of XX.X% only we into increased and contract gross margins in in On manufacturing partial margin declined due year-over-year the basis margin majority recent the to attention in from improvements the to was gross XX.X%. coming to from software XX% Comparing and margin XX% XX.X% changes recognized from 'XX XX.X%. and The X.X in same XX.X%, an lack of QX. was Obviously, 'XX. a 'XX hardware QX compared

reduced from and commitments salary non-GAAP million. to million year-over-year. the operating and of respect QX expect during quarter, OpEx expenses, a was adjustments in $X.X XX.X% year improvement XX% $XX.X in in to margin Relative $XX full XX.X% sequentially XX.X% increase annualized systems in we products and to the Compared 'XX total On OpEx reduced to date. reduced overall greater With forward our approximately key we increased the the sales expenses gross 'XX. and was XXXX, for as gross X.X June XX.X% begin for 'XX resources. non-GAAP for XX.X% I make to call, new products, an made basis, than or points QX Our million Ctrack strategic for to million XXXX, QX investments 'XX. full was XX% to have expenses Ctrack year $XX by QX margin by going compared making year to to non-GAAP

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press non-GAAP reconciliation basis, lowered last share expenses non-GAAP full per share contained a an previously last loss the is with year, mentioned year net new per $X.XX to release. A net effects the non-GAAP in was in tax was combined quarter of same XXXX. our loss improvement period QX operating $X.XX to GAAP and compared of in Our financials legislations. due to $X.XX, from our of the $X.XX XXXX On

cash $X.X schedule. the and at was achieved cash Now Inseego, the balance million inclusive of equivalents, Positive $X.X increasing cash cash of flow At milestone the key quarter QX. a turning of XXXX, $XX.X restricted million end cash to QX, ahead and another for of million. from is Cash was end equivalents sheet.

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were Finally, on an average million to issued of million, roughly quarter, shares increase for shares from mainly financing. outstanding with our weighted share in shares third connection QX the count, the due XX.X our QX X.X

our in shares -- Our was QX million. approximately XX.X QX weighted average 'XX outstanding 'XX,

adjusted during to Moving EBITDA QX our Relative is that met adjusted rate. call, conference of year million million annualized guidance. to plan of on track an half $XX EBITDA exit guidance. a EBITDA pleased targets year We're our and the the hit annualized the $XX half to company set full first with on by and to the run the greater our run QX end than we $XX million rate

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Dan Mondor

Thanks, Steve.

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Operator

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Thomas Walkley

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cadence year, to a of And to $X we your for takes about of expected kind the and think be little milestones for walk a level like QX definitely Just the week year? there. to seems it's to us and for ago. and about from a more the of hit a than all just quicker gap kind it certainly over build the about double EBITDA was than me, run Mobile Congress, that come exit we through opportunity still year in positioned talk of going made adjusted get you a comments more volumes. should million it'd the kind there? of Can well it bigger as you I XG, rate, for year XXXX how the You But at World of

about the course So you can where revenue margins think hardware fully of XG be you could once over then year? the us ramps help go And where and they might for guys?

Dan Mondor

comments. Yes, can a in and with the jump I'll then give framework, Steve

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a mentioned cost base. manufacturing lower we contract firstly, So

gross from and there So the margin volume the of products is come improvement. that part that we put are underlying cost of those most substantial, reductions through

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Thomas Walkley

revenue margins both in the build the the margins of gross improves year is kind that that. as to terms stable demand grow on And just business mix? just and with Is gross overall upward on or revenue of

Dan Mondor

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Thomas Walkley

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Dan Mondor

Well, you correlate it. can't

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R&D current these our resources investments. R&D redirecting are to We --

our technology solutions. strategy we're that Okay? And bringing as a a into X, -- is X. There third-party for sourcing

isn't that So in There comes R&D comes there other part. R&D isn't tag our words, those with with that investment those. on an an

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Thomas Walkley

there toward terms ongoing is Okay. rate and -- expense G&A marketing on programs out sales come of more that you And X.X. of or operating other and cost now Is as line modeling? good then think about just pretty the to we're in run to Inseego about ongoing a of talked part some

Dan Mondor

of prior part underway. process improvement Yes, there And said was And his this business project a and on that we it leading comments was we've that's that. is Steve made remarks.

you Steve So can.

Stephen Smith

movement what think I Yes, seeing, lines. you'll end is the amongst Mike, more up

marketing our sales and up beefing well resource. be R&D will a as bit as We

underway which business ultimately better lead more improvement ultimately, agreements, and but to will level service project, more process are We said, with cost the I as adherence to also efficiencies. improve structure,

Thomas Walkley

Great. Okay.

year fair run and exiting margin would $XX line there, that get think combination kind I some guess, the framework at to that's best gross be million it? EBIT about annual of look I hit a improvements, then top that to rate to the to steady OpEx $X is adjusted of growth, see way million-plus So

Stephen Smith

at a that's to it. reasonable look way Yes,

Dan Mondor

all you cycle improvement CRM/ERP need previously, integration there's that. and of do business the back-office disparate process IT It's in to as other get we mentioned can project. things get lot systems a We've efficiencies. longer of system, to systems, a to place But the picture,

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headroom, that's so for also And line as as, we we're improvement well our as working towards. you that again, on bottom then if And the investment an will, more see strategy. what

Thomas Walkley

for I'll pass me Okay. Last question on. and it

and into targets at to that 'XX of your of investment growth terms more In year, really XG the is long-term drive meaningful exiting Or then? is all an 'XX?

Dan Mondor

Yes.

question. That's the great question kind the So XG or $XX question. of

launches little this commercial a year. There predict. hard So to initial is

be participating in will We them.

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Operator

with Our comes Lake from Schmidt next Capital Markets. question Street Jaeson

Jaeson Schmidt

Just first either off, QX, I'm in wondering if you're Ctrack willing whole? or to subscribers side had the on a disclose as the number of you

Stephen Smith

No, be along DMS. assets to would number from on Jason. of connected of we're subscribers hold total have. We'll one, we It with off a not that subscribers disclose going combination the

Dan Mondor

have and not Yes, not thing poor SMB in cycles I the obstinate be heard. think related is drain And that towards mentioned we're focus we to business trying and, consumer business aviation pursuing the other short to Ctrack is ARPU, thing fleet related, area. you've cash in we The insurance shift just here. of as the and this we that obviously, the contract new of because previously, that are

subscriber Now the where get it. you'd that's really definition from of

DMS not is So to is count. assets. They're I articulation connected for away connected more reasons. subscriber think, subscribers. we're those and SMB individual a from asset of subscriber aviation, Fleet, shifting

a those really put to So together, things talk about don't subscriber clean count. way have you

is where in work to how That's we're going. have connected future we're counts, a out in at. We'll business the shift direction. there figure So that's assets we but where our

Jaeson Schmidt

makes if And growth, case. mentioned sense. these weren't any that on then in targets dependent just for know I significant past curious revenue the you've That early that EBITDA the remains Okay. 'XX

Stephen Smith

hasn't changed. that Yes,

Jaeson Schmidt

IoT, with focus Okay. And some solutions. and shift these to mobile the of then

how you of beyond? are the not thinking where or coming years about from as term, 'XX revenue longer do breakdown? I'm about potential mix revenue but you talking out look you or the of certainly even kind Just see 'XX, X kind

Dan Mondor

would look I way The at that twofold. is

line and with organizational appliances, cloud frankly, to the and we're work mobile the together markets an solutions, create Solutions, IoT is device they for decided solution. structured we've what end-to-end SaaS purposes how quite up firstly, Enterprise platforms, So

IoT a do a What So mix. is expect we mobile and the to things. solution couple is of now see

business the XG let's use significant IoT portion. relative and a term a firstly, basis So legacy will. MiFi the not be will as on

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Operator

[Operator Instructions].

from comes Mike Northland Capital Latimore question Markets. next with Our

Unidentified Analyst

couple of Latimore. This a is [ph] Rishi for I Mike have questions.

for change aviation vertical you landscape do in see XXXX? So competitive the in any

Dan Mondor

it's competitors. aren't Well, question. a great yes, that there It's not

what right we're as certainly pipeline an growth engagement mover I in and benefiting is and in advantage we're position first a seeing think right at frankly, our and having level on our the time solution. the place from, with being aviation

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Unidentified Analyst

And did Great. How add in, business? UBI you FY in 'XX? how activity is in like, much And Okay. the XXXX? the it growth expect do

Stephen Smith

business? which sorry, I'm

Unidentified Analyst

usage-based UBI, insurance.

Dan Mondor

Yes.

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it So value about not rates And duration a other words, a of was against renewal two of on was a payback XX-month contracts in neighborhood XX-month good. sticky the drain very secondly, there renewal. uncertain other proposition. us. contract And period were was cash in years, weren't words, the exactly In the

minute. decided me for So we What And we about we do a about about that that business? like anything business. like think what that let didn't

support period. fine, them. Great, customers to continue We're we that served, that to we beyond payback service the love are have and the we them. So that going

not just is acquisition a good customer New value prop.

So maybe somebody, us. for but it's isn't for it

Unidentified Analyst

just one last And question. right. All

So and non-GAAP for both a repeat fourth quarter? of margins in the couple actually, please SaaS numbers hardware the I gross you missed could

Stephen Smith

that Say again.

Unidentified Analyst

SaaS, both gross for and fourth quarter. the hardware margins in segments, Non-GAAP

Stephen Smith

what quarter the the asking non-GAAP, So non-GAAP was you're fourth hardware? gross in margin for

Unidentified Analyst

hardware For and Saas.

Stephen Smith

Yes.

Okay.

the So our was XX.X% for hardware non-GAAP gross quarter. fourth in margins

Unidentified Analyst

the for And SaaS? Okay.

Stephen Smith

For SaaS, quarter. it XX.X% was fourth in the

Operator

as concludes as disconnect presentation. today's lines. well attending for your And at We you our may question-and-answer today's This you conference. thank this session time,

Stephen Smith

Thank you.