INVE Identiv

Steve Humphreys Chief Executive Officer
Sandra Wallach Chief Financial Officer
Manfred Mueller Chief Operating Officer and General Manager
Jaeson Schmidt Lake Street Capital Markets
Mike Latimore Northland Capital Markets
Craig Ellis B. Riley Securities
Jeff Kessler Imperial Capital
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Good afternoon. Welcome to Identiv's Presentation of its First Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. My name is John, and I will be your operator this afternoon.

Joining us for today's presentation are the company's CEO, Steve Humphreys; and CFO, Sandra Wallach.

Following Management's remarks, we will open the call for questions.

note to this including non-GAAP and cash please be management adjusted begin, free references making measures flow. we that call, during may EBITDA Before or projections,

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Steve Humphreys

all revenues in thank XXXX, in us. Thanks, business. by our Overall, our you growth year-over-year, in over grew total, XX% continued led RFID XX% the of our to momentum operator, for grow, especially our Identity grew first business. quarter business our joining and XX% RFID In

in other in versus backlog XX% quarter the Our of date up first and also units year metrics to strong XX We the of growth booked shipped increase RFID million million XXXX. profitability the progress. grew units are QX, our in XX% XXXX an And QX, XX Total versus XXXX, of made units key QX prior. at orders end from XX%. QX, the end of month QX

were from as our first more QX, business we showing leverage expenses quarter X% from down in up scale. showed Expenses clearly our the in leverage also XX%, We XXXX, while revenues operating were model.

to new quarter. of in getting designs more design customers and and all production Our complicated expanding cycle, wins, made moving core third the new and generation designs, first customers production, second progress through the bringing growth with strategies new

drivers of designs. the growth now to of of quarter. new with of on for of expanded in and done Starting volume expansions, some we've specifics the in So, customer for number the launches designs each year the committed these this orders customers the second-half here's several existing we've them, and first our

number design major provider For designs production for on doubled now under mobile committed eight. designs first within completely last the more discussion volumes of ramp device another We introduced one this year, more different to from year. complete, with are to actually. also two to the of the example, cases. the four is four customer, are use under groups product second-half other nearly with designs contract we Two We've been already and started two

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use different very Now, all these are point. but cases, the that's

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dispensed we're other dispense Now incorporating at these rate as as In amounts, data be at temperature exactly design, multi-sensor insertion. have fluid right are this treatments the super precise to for right the including cancer, measurements, and features, dispensing well and exact that and autoimmune temperature, right protection. and authenticity in auto injectors needle the

we're the all in be in to XXX Now since means RFID It'll volumes this to that talking take projects the but approved FDA our get about $X will devices, production a customer million of units. range. while to device $X.XX

more expect so So is respond foreseeable very hits, be similar the Also, in others have future. opportunity business for grow it industry high, be whenever customer will with able Switching will we for the we will which costs to opportunities to the features, major. with us. means the

this as expansion and for complicated, us, see designs a continuing AUPs, gross more like expansion, this, get So, strong margin devices competitive example. like with position in we

also X-ray radiation operate need cases. around X-ray, that We of technology scanners, our continued scanners, devices systems for CT proof launches, these PET RFID customer environments, medical couple for including to use and in new applications a a device specific developing

was levels. is segment RFID growth into will year-over-year. premises from end more the Federal now Now the leading comments. premises product the now for go second us growth the to cycle I'll premises of make in ahead as us almost pre-COVID X% quarter, for put quarter. delayed entire details first forward-looking of quarter. our quarter growth premises of our XXXX This build the year-over-year, XXXX, above remember, But in been QX, the deployments saw beyond high around the XXXX. first first coming about In which to This momentum in of our government. pre-COVID Commercial our We back means started towards growth last the segment, a in exited is year, up that for expect the projecting and strength businesses were starting premises launches. we we've new XX% quarter grew

products. on retention, our we third focus revenue customer customer and predictability track QX, on RFID, kept RFID. is record In by retention of is Our a strategic predictability. In repeatability and consumable focus XXX% driven in

XX% premises, by recurring software use of hear our this recurring of revenues. category in can consumables revenues. QX, We services is you of also we the prescriptions software cases. appliances, predictability And the driven and revenues In premises kept in syringes, as use and and expanding grew service to other

So even strength in growth seasonally our in lowest our QX, growth showed quarter.

and and Just market areas as beyond. technology focus. strong us these launches, design the retention remain RFID launches And and and QX. important, great of The wins in customer made recurring are we customer supporting XXXX leadership a of expansions, wide Federal revenues, our range got and progress growth, and all

Sandra? turn this So, to quarter I'll for rest first financial highlights quarter. the of hit and the over before into next to getting call the the Sandra year,

Sandra Wallach


quarter and Steve double the $XX.X up the have quarter, track in of quarter XX% mentioned, We XXXX. of on exiting the the first XXXX our and revenue, reflect million quarter us business beyond. XXXX, of first fourth for closed growth first and to the As in our out compared XX% financial XXXX, with digit strength results remainder down of to compared

growth RFID of in driven growth year-over-year growth versus our a was first to certain our during offset verticals our in powered shipped units in million increase impact the business, partially by select on Our X% by devices, QX, Federal and XXXX, XX% continuing XXXX. COVID largely QX, business, premises the pre-COVID over XX quarter with by XX% customers,

revenue Our recurring at quarter stable first and our for both X% XX-months. remained trailing

XXXX, and in of XXXX. were GAAP profit XXXX, XX% quarter of and our respectively, first XX% XX% and the and first the in gross quarter XX% the fourth margins and quarter to adjusted non-GAAP compared XX%, XX% of For

XX% For within margin continue XX%, and XX-month within revert across to margins the changes period, GAAP mix to primarily Gross expect respectively. resulted levels were and we and as segments, our gross margins non-GAAP from adjusted XXXX. to our historical trailing profit

positive non-GAAP first million, X% of X% of in QX XXXX. compared in XXXX, margin was the $X.X quarter, with and adjusted QX, in reflecting results negative EBITDA Our X% positive

non-GAAP period, trailing our positive XX-months X%. EBITDA adjusted margin For the was

share Our in a million, $X.XX QX QX, share, or of was per net and per of loss a $X.X XXXX. QX, loss GAAP million, a of $X.XX or XXXX, loss compared $X.X a share $X.XX loss per of in a million of loss or loss with $X

cost We've with growth and impact non-GAAP the ETF today exceeded expectations is on included the of the line provided earnings in summary, RFID saw $X.XX devices, Appendix our external reconciliation managed we GAAP segment expectations. and on which in of better the in of also information, of versus our overweighting mix the So release. met delivered continued a full to top-line,

further products, slide which analyzes by and XX% The XXXX, card lower primarily from of decrease as as QX, well of by segment, of smart year-over-year readers of totaled in is XXXX, with compared higher primarily XX% RFID smart Identity, beginning revenue of a of transponder RFID higher Identity offset seasonality was from or sales million XXXX. card sales The partially higher increase and trends was sales decrease our XX% of card transponder XXXX. access cards. QX, by $XX.X access sequential our next revenue normal driven products and from products sales, by QX, Our total sales driven to an QX, readers increase

very GAAP higher and early QX, from as our RFID of compared segment to XX%, Identity capacity we XXXX than QX, lower are the strategies, margins revenues. due continue investment increased of at XX%, growth to in grow the their to to at XXXX QX, deployment a Our proportion driving stages customers into XX% XXXX, which RFID rapid and

compared with $X.X of year-over-year of of X% Turning to recovery increase this fourth strength Federal increase and normal business in in segment other due in total quarter of and GAAP an segment, premises margins segment of the or the accounted the QX products were our the of continued seasonality. sequential in XXXX, revenues XX% of mix XX% in for from was QX, verticals. segments. decrease the and million The select the our from reflects premises XX% XXXX. representing XXXX, to QX, in compared to The change due premises XXXX, within X% first XX% revenue, the quarter the revenue for to

expense our Now management. moving operating to

Our first million to GAAP for $X.X down of QX compared of and quarter were operating expenses the with compared XXXX. $X.X the XXXX, quarter first million,

of severance as in stock-based such our results, depreciation XXXX. adjusted totaled non-cash This normally charges exclude to compared the first QX XXXX, non-GAAP million operating pieces non-GAAP a from and quarter $X.X and million $X.X in compensation of million costs, the certain $X.X amortization, XXXX. non-GAAP increase and together, QX $X.X compares EBITDA to Bringing was Our all expenses million restructuring the in and $X.X adjusted of first back in to the of excluded and XXXX, our XXXX. QX, million quarter

provided, QX planned cash we we driven net approximately $XX.X units. QX, factory by million million RSU delivered Under balance from our exited the increase offset QX was million a the XXXX, to activities, The to capital revolver, net EastWest for XXXX XXX releases. to $X.X invested $X.X of had Singapore of increase the for sheet, QX cash our were in tax Bank capacity in was quarter borrowings to used a key with our expenditures million financing million cash, related in expansion increase tranche by $X.X support as million $X $X.X the million in $X.X XXXX. net under Turning in drivers and of activity payments a million from next of of

for the In of of an able shares success million. proceeds additional issue follow-on recent we stock of X.X offering, $XX.X gross addition, given to million were our common

second-half as be have We agility line a reconciliation promissory the for will growth of the reduced capital flows. our the on XXXX. provide off of interest to year-to-date note our growth, our providing track we business filings, we of the working paid current XX-Q into In flex will last going of trajectory credit. expense and additional cash This full

previous Appendix. year Due full we've completeness, the $XXX million. included operational confident with in the of our the end balance guidance the For sheet first for momentum exiting today, at the we're lower the full for of XXXX to XXXX, quarter earnings release

QX, Exiting We XX, we this on will $XX XXXX, growth. as share metrics of continue our million. backlog was March at journey QX

the seen period their April in we over customers As finalize prior for as the same schedules shipments backlog of XX% XX, from our have year. increase QX

date is continue prior confidence to to expected quarter-over-quarter. Our the in to seasonality to our of have with the second million, strong same booked Normal XXXX. building total over continue XXXX momentum first-half $X.X the of at growth orders XX% for guidance period new And XX% quarter we is in XX% revenue first-half over year. of

of continue we'll and number we monitor as that I'll to be discussion, assess year, the updated As to able back guidance accurately Steve. the appropriate. This the concludes second-half we'll more to it financial pass provide and

Steve Humphreys

Thanks, Sandra.

for As our financial on we're XXXX. track show,

stronger. for we first wins Just upsides were in a launches, our and the year, for in we our and In are the second-half. of indications both goals new hit QX, quarter. the And drivers RFID, second the think we're they'll in getting near-term of strong quarter design as and position with the growth strong rest customer keep technologies

growth. our few every engineer we're products. that small that who's we've these quarter on with And our our in have of get production next the going and and talk one this go-to-solution support community demo kit, RFID developers into on direct different thinking that of the We're about core competitive is engineering future code, can't The launching front to the to for team. let own a one support integrating our we're features, from want want to customer to this which I'll does RFID direct drive will calls. actually application. designs. We we're high-end provider addition the with of Since prototype XXX-million-unit others experts. RFID their RFID In industry runs, that their we're We to apps, them several focus to quarter, include of know leverage and launching to be got and several from in developers’ we going all. of initiatives NFC-enabled devices that engineers be mobile chips sample two about samples our advantages, building

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and kits give over we multi-device our baseline our XXXX drivers, especially strategic will are So upside RFID XXXX, automation us and developer's two think outlook.

on that's core Now because growth I RFID, driver. our focused

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Thank you.

Please We will Jaeson, live. Jaeson take your first And line from is question Instructions] proceed. now your [Operator Street. is Lake coming questions. from Schmidt

Jaeson Schmidt

for been has Thanks correct? and million, that I fully take shift start sort the and million to make taking range for I understand Is We mean guys. in feel to million with competent you expectations. questions. was want that about shouldn't down figure. of just any it. that $XXX there $XXX want to just to Hey, previous I mean, my guidance sure $XXX

Steve Humphreys

No, the opposite.

to we of we going million. is $XXX in we moving In the update the the range not fact, of to was And $XXX visibility been we'll said be million. up And it. top that range below guidance $XX prior we million are into bottom get as the bottom, we said more our what confident were the had

$XXX can $XXX there's So that of end. clear visibility here, important do in But small we one from cap beyond room it raise another? right that we're that And you're bottom. when what upper get that million, we when that confident and million micro is we course. asking? believe about or specific you -- move Does want be deals We clarify to you're direction careful very

Jaeson Schmidt

that's color potential opportunity, Yeah, very then potential Thank you to additional from And market. you. moving any just provide helpful. there can that X-billion-unit a a timeline end perspective,

Steve Humphreys

the think, there. that in government them I mentioned rolls public it's referring provided there's is which far So, opportunity a the big very products. we along, It's to cannabis program. but one you're domain, a And to sample out we've sample

You to tax and programs going they'd the to pace collection it's their as possible, with want increase But as they government would go. it drive fast capability go think because certainty.

the So, out, or third relatively pushes going it should fall se, us, change be with hitting can per it near-term. quarter we and say in quarter it's expectations. to that fourth in the if again, then But

So with they're to give the six and take it, when becomes it's mandated or in on there. months. comfortable track, And moving position. We're assessing is along it taking and samples not but certain, and three exactly it's we're

Jaeson Schmidt

Is going and but into product know just or last given priority applications? I just sort becoming Okay. in simply And over RFID jump depending customer, queue. of bigger your it's interest up me, constraints picking business, wins supply? customers the for out performance for the In a on well-known supply there. because to I'll then of seeing and the one inbound vary you back that other increasing ability Are

Steve Humphreys

in Yes, of of it parts we're business. is. absolutely couple And, our advantage that a taking of

to so some investments, a are very quite aren't supply. or I we're can situations doing mentioned, I private financial competitors, in companies tight And on that the frankly, positions capital working are taking either difficult As inventory. mean. those they ones we on There inventory be and equity-owned,

pretty we're them customers being on their to for because and our mandatory continue proactive it. that, products So, production. most of are And appreciate aggressive

they own them, to critical their see when of fulfill. even is to and supply uncertain, that or our to and the keep fact so is other some production, around even a what them able And from suppliers lot we're inability going, hear

to good build a well to opportunity as it's trust drive the revenues. So, as

Jaeson Schmidt

Okay. Appreciate guys. the Thanks, color.

Steve Humphreys

Thanks, Jaeson.


And proceed. Mike, Mike your is Capital Latimore from Northland coming please from question next Markets.

Mike Latimore

Thanks. Great. congratulations. It Yeah, outlook. quarter, looks great great

Steve Humphreys

Thanks, Mike.

Mike Latimore

saying million. it's of think $XXX in so the you're $XXX million, that that confident it? think bottoms? you're Are reiterating to about competent million One just two in the clarifications. I $XXX you the sort to extra is, way basically million $XXX then you're Is

Steve Humphreys

Yeah, we're just that's we're for another clarity the guidance, sure. million, the not have we until of yet, we on number of bounding $XXX that some top what And the said new setting is again, the even on top that. it not

million a And is $XXX refine rates at million way $X with it. got plus to obviously, point, So having this minus growth range we're it's isn't a of on future. about as likely in or that the the the think and up we'll of going number we we've get there, saying characterization because

Mike Latimore

characterization? you Got the Or going X-billion-unit It Okay. back technology is opportunity. fair sort cannabis, like on there. that this bake out guess And still it. then, I on? almost that a of sounds Is won

Steve Humphreys

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Mike Latimore

it. Got

guessing and very a But large deals? large guess, your in rates? deals, high. ones do pipeline. I these you of fairly the it's you you're have And, lot what Okay. win is of winning rate win track I'm some on

Steve Humphreys

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the was high. because rate expanding field pretty designs the and win team actually bullets on want not noted we're sense of phone that quotes. bottlenecking on some XX% give that win metric these do there. And pipeline with. team, gave programs, mandate of anything So managers release, some is to we're we're nature team to want add that'll to and the you one here. application by Dr. be adding? we're and and that we're has program June the is about And in X, by sure of the the engineers, of it's We're We our filling up to going manage of to Manfred, with dealing the increase that's our that you we rates our scale mostly Mueller technical a

Manfred Mueller


own while already for that we The As in there. volume, that those high. you finally from of the hi, kind many that attach to focus and of need also a comes many the to is formal we on rate the tried too of relationship, then It been we have And through, that proceed. for fairly make it winning. in remain we these, said, of medical And those break with where we project when we simply also terms you sure number Mike, way, and that are deals is decent by when and maintain fairly and little the mass rightfully a indeed it's supply design the a to volume the when that's talked. we're I where why to are time parties the they long bringing beauty getting in particularly project, of is that total our in which most entry, the and excludes hurdle of regard a IP, ones ones. lot is And high

Mike Latimore

That makes sense.

is that? guess, great. I then you that guess quarter? for get you Okay, the I kind is like, of fourth said, you about third, level. gross And to XX%? back you And normal can think then think to should expected How margin we say I about what that on Identity, said

Steve Humphreys

to? Sandra, you want

Sandra Wallach

it. do to Happy

consolidated our to see what So, their returned historical gross is, we'll margins levels. we said

the So, second-half expect range the we in to them of year. this low return XX% to

Mike Latimore

that I lot And would identity comes Got improving imagine your from well. or Identity ID, as a it. of

Sandra Wallach

of be premises, of investments. year-end we'll improvement also as QX into the quarter our we capacity benefit a saw in that gross up -- to some Federal see going the third we quarter. combination And margins and spending drives in in government our It's grew which

be the of both. combination a So, it'll

Mike Latimore

Great. Thank you.

Steve Humphreys

Mike. Thanks,


Your Riley from proceed. is B. please Ellis from Securities. next question Craig Craig, coming

Craig Ellis

earlier comments. thanks the question. team, of follow-up for wanted the so far. on taking for I all just the information Thanks And to some

get go the 'XX. So into some going to is through a that the engaging just you as that color. and unit see executing wanted and cannabis next arch round back in that Q&A, the we and and help Steve, your a programs, opportunity clear like, We with really might 'XX comments And customers those what about smartphone to early on well, in it's us I could look to talked little lot out out if volume team more of with bit go programs. area the understand

Steve Humphreys

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new for then last Now in process are that year. course. got understatements year the the with we've production, designs that keep the running, are balance and designs this our into then work right now. into of year two a more And more from going And next designs couple them and

Manfred, with XX eight do stage want groups we'll use And particular to for the cases, different proprietary XX other those different within So, you not range expect I that entirely the gets into little early customer. more are million don't than talking that the to customer. unit stages, that of we And the in with that? to a go color total, talking for volumes and commentary are that add some customer going designs. any range designs designs in applications. granular design in be because yet. And business want the we're something or have in about that, million around for up to you're to Volume-wise,

Manfred Mueller

multiple manufacturers, information is important where think are are piece we managing I we of few probably a that more. Yeah, also contract adding another

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Craig Ellis

That's helpful.

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first The to and you, then bounce I'll to Steve. it question back

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Manfred Mueller

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Craig Ellis

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potential do if the these are any of so, the you downstream wins are that see part ecosystem? signs from getting, ramps of interest And of you some where look As other at of those are? that you current customers

Steve Humphreys

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Craig Ellis

of impact, the the Got a it. Sandra, a are one covering the significant the nonetheless. that And you. unique expedites we're an of is some that of lastly, environment, impact current companies things this on environment. in some And gross but other is it margins, hearing things In question having an for we're that to about impact, then for and not

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Sandra Wallach

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Craig Ellis

Thanks, everybody. I'll in queue. you. Thank the hop back it. Got

Steve Humphreys

Thanks, you Craig. John, there?


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Jeff Kessler

taking call. Thank my you for

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Steve Humphreys

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Jeff Kessler

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Steve Humphreys

clarify, seeing Can what you specifically are asking Jeff? about, you

Jeff Kessler

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Steve Humphreys

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Jeff Kessler

you. Thank Great. Okay.


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Unidentified Analyst

a for you questions. giving me Hi, chance to the Great. thank few ask

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Steve Humphreys

very first the wise XX% were year-over-year. quarter, as Well, right you heard unit in up we

seeing So, out, baseline even the XX%, that's a that's overall, of lot put demand. capacity we're pointed as buffer not what increase as you who it our for

expansion. So, I think we also referred to as it initial capacity

utilizing So, prepared we're that close certainly And confident to to that go we're we forward. that we'll be certainly as add to capacity total.

Unidentified Analyst

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Steve Humphreys

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Unidentified Analyst

then, since XXXX? you revenues it the Do in for looks rest faster units. in QX, than it grew RFID And than the Great. will ASPs think of grew the XXXX in like higher AFPs year be

Steve Humphreys

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Unidentified Analyst

the range The pretty a that’s million talking contract units ASPs, period? the is about highest annual is And number amazing. is XXX highest about that $X.XX that mentioned, like an it you or over this

Steve Humphreys

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Unidentified Analyst

their to approval. it for then you And in order. where Has FDA that is waiting been something this just Or you're mentioned already? submitted they have get stuff

Steve Humphreys

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Unidentified Analyst

very That's I totally understand. fair.

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XX% to November, last this they been year. regard? you to up XX% guidance think gave about I changed in Have that leaders for be So, the

Steve Humphreys

say upside Yes. solidly on it. probably they're rain, that I'd confident some in

Unidentified Analyst

questions the I coming like the see on you opening backlog business Where with just it then nonscheduled think And side, the of Okay. seems here. in positive economy year-over-year? about lot prior and the growing there's a do

Steve Humphreys

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still area, Some are like getting confident for very rental in about travel business example, the be Others feeling cars, figuring their seem out. to it they're outlook.

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Unidentified Analyst

your one million strong unit side, business. strong pretty which Okay. of not a see. RFID growth. side, What $XXX the the as And can I'm positive just XX% question, commercial growth. is And just your that's if expect a may growth, low then chunk seems come so like of on you But ASP I observation. And guidance. of observation, And pretty make we'll it end hearing an about is expect Federal then is you as back, well growth, on good the course,

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Steve Humphreys

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Unidentified Analyst

you Great. Thank much. so

Steve Humphreys

you. Thank


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Steve Humphreys

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