Dara Dierks Investor Relations
Chris Meyer Chie Executive Officer
Lincoln Mali South Africa Chie Executive Officer
Alex Smith Chief Financial Officer
Raj Sharma Riley Securities
Jeff Jokri Unicom Capital.
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[Indiscernible] ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Net1's UEPS Quarter Four of 2021 Earnings Call. [Indiscernible] and the attendees will be in a listen-only mode. There will be an opportunity to ask questions in prompt. [Operator Instructions]. Please note that this event is being recorded. the to hand Dierks. now will conference Dara over I Please ma'am. go ahead,

Dara Dierks

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So with that, let me turn the Chris. call over to

Chris Meyer

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Lincoln Mali

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Alex Smith

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Raj Sharma

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Chris Meyer

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Raj Sharma


Chris Meyer

us, part journey days are tremendously you. of thank you seeing. the excited Thank be the We, for I to in Lincoln but Early what this we're for firstly, and excited both very about welcome. business. So

guidance, of terms In forwarding bar if the you and like.

as point, a in position I think said, to this at we're not I provide guidance.

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hope you where and in answers I and want the a that accountable we that future we the back I be question. sense numbers of would targets held that you to. come gives to focusing. give So And hope we're will

Raj Sharma


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Alex Smith

few So, I costs. a on make points think to

shouldn't you service cost business expect no, So the to increase. in base financial this

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Raj Sharma

space, that side I acquisitions it. are merchant already to on the sort of if that informal Got you in candidates to Is referring In any of on -- can in is color a there helps. identified Or have CapEx, possible sort move you, Thank of could the timelineOpera Any you would when in on possible size what that that we -- it something? if around be? sort thinking? the indication expect

Chris Meyer

we So said we remarks, Yeah opportunities that evaluating. a are have number in I as of my Sure.

our We of a gaps in discussing I the what's those time out have that capabilities at cross-referencing lot and spent was in there our to capabilities. markets looking

if than bring to And terms have we believe, good this say we have handle, that business we something, of the I a can't will to through We we as at very point that a announce, targets. potential but So we're few market. cases as looking in in more regard. have soon something that

Raj Sharma

be to become it. SASSA has There years. And quote-unquote card then a scheme cards X recruitable And the there Is was -- cards issue in to does just replaced big reputable cost. office XX for moving need scheme they SAPO, contender. million say Got search the over they need the big accounts. to to card a would post for assume on -- a next a issue this that NetX be about

Chris Meyer

Lincoln I'm going this come in in question ask mind, you to to Raj. on if particular,

Raj Sharma


Chris Meyer

what's referring give Lincoln how good and you to working little SASSA a of Lincoln I a provide has us detail the repaired Lincoln, bit relationship think more as to been I to best placed is sense want if But with to think with that. here, take you important we're and we'll color. how earlier. was SASSA

Lincoln Mali

in decided tender. felt end, we in we've the our the Chris. that we we customer a a Raj, you, to got go looked go the with terms base the not not were tender the felt organically And quite still sense to commercial the tender we We in we for to we Thank grow at further us. the applied a of having thought procurement the of participate detail. lot to that to process acceptable because on of and through commercial that deal minds tender try a for make and us. could that without did momentum not lot

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that we tender So at pursue all. didn't

Raj Sharma

Got it.

to is lot available a customers. SASSA same NetX the the there to a So -- as still your opportunity of back accounts still, get

Lincoln Mali

indeed. Yes,

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Raj Sharma

for back you. offline. Perfect, in Okay, I'll much queue you Thank thank take this so answering get my the questions. and

Chris Meyer

much. very Thanks


Instructions] Jeff The [Operator next question Jokri Capital. from of Unicom comes

Jeff Jokri

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Chris Meyer

what in Jeff, terms to of in are different of from the indicated break even. get the the Hi, past, Yeah. accounts to number we've maturity EPE numbers on

to I got a to But for going mentioned, point. I see X.X it that whole as don't through this at million, So we differently we're South system. get Chris significantly X.X a break-even. think previously we've whole new million as to back Africa think

clearer So due perhaps course. that give around in certainly guidance and back we'll come

Jeff Jokri


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Lincoln Mali

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all working we're are the these on. variables So

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Jeff Jokri

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Lincoln Mali

days yet. It's early probably

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market. of We own got, more that are repurposing digital our branches, to infrastructure and our all using marketing we've our marketing, that, using our ATMs,

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Jeff, questions? conclude your does that

Jeff Jokri

very you Thank Yes. much.


I for closing now back and over to comments. Ladies will hand gentlemen, management you. it Thank

Chris Meyer

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