ATAX America First Multifamily Investors

Craig Allen CFO
Chad Daffer CEO
Andy Grier SVP
David Walrod JonesTrading
Patrick Marsh Alex Brown
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I would like to welcome everyone to America First Multifamily Investors, L.P.'s NASDAQ ticker symbol ATAX First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call.

During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' remarks, you will be invited to participate in a question-and-answer session.

As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Craig Allen, Chief Financial Officer of the company.

Craig Allen

to quarter welcome call. earnings and you ATAX's XXXX first conference Thank

President me will and Executive Vice today the Andy ATAX. Chad Senior Joining call Chief be on Daffer, ATAX's Grier, of Officer;

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Chad Daffer

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Craig Allen

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Chad Daffer

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David Walrod

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Craig Allen

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David Walrod

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Chad Daffer

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David Walrod

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Chad Daffer

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David Walrod

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Chad Daffer

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Craig Allen

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Craig Allen

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Craig Allen

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Patrick Marsh

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Chad Daffer

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Andy Grier

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Chad Daffer

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Craig Allen

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