ATAX America First Multifamily Investors

Chad Daffer Chief Executive Officer
Jesse Coury Chief Financial Officer
Kenneth Rogozinski Chief Investment Officer
Daniel David Stiefel
Ben Warwick Quantitative Equity Strategies
Patrick Marsh Alex Brown
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I would like to welcome everyone to America First Multifamily Investors L.P., NASDAQ ticker symbol ATAX, Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call.

During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. After management presents its overview of Q2 2020, you will be invited to participate in a question-and-answer session.

As a reminder, this conference call is being recoded. On behalf of ATAX and its management team, thank you and welcome to ATAX's Second Quarter of 2020 Earnings Conference Call.

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Chad Daffer

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Kenneth Rogozinski

you, Thank Chad.

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Jesse Coury

you, Thank Ken.

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Daniel David

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Chad Daffer

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Daniel David

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Ben Warwick

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Chad Daffer

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Ben Warwick

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Patrick Marsh

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Chad Daffer

afternoon. Patrick, good

Patrick Marsh

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Chad Daffer

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Patrick Marsh

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John Barn

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Chad Daffer

Thank you.

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Chad Daffer

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Chad Daffer

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Chad Daffer

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John Barn

Thank you.

Chad Daffer

Thank you.


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Chad Daffer

afternoon. Good

Larry Linden

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Chad Daffer

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Unidentified Analyst

Second I question if may?

Chad Daffer


Unidentified Analyst

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Chad Daffer

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Unidentified Analyst

All right, much. very you thank

Chad Daffer

you. Thank


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Chad Daffer

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