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Gerdau (GGB)

Participants
Harley Scardoelli EVP, CFO & IR Officer
Gustavo Werneck CEO & Director
Leonardo Correa BTG Pactual
Caio Ribeiro Crédit Suisse
Thiago Lofiego Bradesco BBI
Rodolfo De Angele JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Rafael Barcellos Santander Investment Securities
Carlos De Alba Morgan Stanley
Timna Tanners Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Andreas Bokkenheuser UBS Investment Bank
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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to Gerdau's conference call to discuss the results related to the fourth quarter of 2020. [Operator Instructions]. We would like to emphasize that any forward-looking statements that might be made during this conference call related to Gerdau's business outlook, projections and financial and operating goals are mere assumptions based on the management's expectations related to the future of the company. Even though Gerdau believes that its comments are based on reasonable assumptions, there is no guarantee that future events will not affect this evaluation.

Here today are Mr. and Harley President President Executive Director, CFO. and Werneck, CEO; Scardoelli, and Vice Gustavo

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Gustavo Werneck

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Harley Scardoelli

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Operator

Instructions]. [Operator

question Pactual. from is Leonardo Correa from first The BTG

Leonardo Correa

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Gustavo Werneck

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Harley Scardoelli

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Operator

comes question from Caio Credit Ribeiro next Our from Suisse.

Caio Ribeiro

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Gustavo Werneck

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So that's it.

Operator

Our next question comes from Thiago Lofiego BBI. Bradesco from

Thiago Lofiego

how could quarter, congratulations the winter second particularly utilization any question evolution is today? are how the for the have mention about results. year? My and the first plate, these demand Harley, I the and two One, spread or outstanding whether experiencing questions. do throughout in season? if impact you in metallic and level a see Werneck you more of you do rigorous evolving And see had heavy in U.S. this to more U.S. spreads you due the

Gustavo Werneck

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in of terms we are any experiencing shortage So supply. effect not gas

recover days So will from shutdown. of soon we these

Thiago Lofiego

of point, this U.S. is regarding impact issues? you think any margins significant. you see these because this do that And not Or last the in

Gustavo Werneck

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Operator

De Rodolfo is from question next from Angele JPMorgan. Our

Rodolfo De Angele

intention you adjust But a phase about new in past? about course, to related is had increase? increased perspective of the would in -- volume there parity, new question know know budgets And increase, the different are first and is or mean with mean, your or capital volumes Just a have I question see of something -- any CapEx. reality. whatever than my whether to what whether to I fit clarify My growth -- I engaging second something whether any like imports, had to recent you that prices you to your to things close bit. of I you is

Gustavo Werneck

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So Scardoelli, regards just to add anything in else please feel free to capital allocation.

Harley Scardoelli

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Operator

comes Barcellos next Rafael question from Our Santander. from

Rafael Barcellos

Congratulations your for results.

quarter your this just have follow-up your a of of the your terms which been How XXXX. my very you I is I in the my of market about in do have It's looking growth in view civil think important their see performance big And retail and question. most forward? construction, questions now question and was in strategy. first picture representation portfolio of the second answered.

share you market could Now the and that your ahead? Brazilian market view talk looking about if you've about moved along, competition,

Gustavo Werneck

you, pleasure talk Thank you. It's strong. very remains a to Retail Rafael. to

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Operator

Morgan comes Our De Carlos Alba from Stanley. in English next question from

Carlos De Alba

and the beyond comment if the coming understand And Silat, as then last the with these in the from then at may, also terms any contribution we what terms, from the cannot price you're tell better if what opportunities in can months? Gerdau us your your Great. I having this ton. this long coming better finally, per of CapEx steel planning operations upside flat that -- could and acquisition? X-year And give in your the in terms How the So do XXXX? level EBITDA your just in is between gap, side, -- should Brazil can CapEx if and you per of purchase. is assume for overall you in What cycle you do for before. better ton can you're you acquisition that the what prospects, My EBITDA absolute beyond, steel least of between terms -- market EBITDA reference see a EBITDA situation, the highlight the Perhaps you that XXXX -- us continuing if on numbers Brazilian of we expect you big can in announced or on comment question, particular better any, investment you difference doing? you you so year this current of that that expect on to on you better

Gustavo Werneck

question start questions, you, with free else. how add Thank your performing, Scardoelli, will Silat, please started Well, X I has numbers Well, something by to a and results. it's I mean, Carlos. but answering feel on Carlos --

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Harley Scardoelli

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Gustavo Werneck

Can question? jump our to next we

Operator

Our is from from next question, English, of also Tanners in Timna Bank America.

Timna Tanners

if to I wanted sure make just, I the understand possible, guidance.

some is going high further one everyone's further announcements Or And particular, in forward. So I should that was that, can than then CapEx decisions a expect? I in think southern But we upside? there about asked think there's with timing run forward that there? I Is it's the is other lot going in dividend wondering that rate there's more the at or for we if for and further Steels opportunity a further there volume clear So just an growth stability mean, that I new was that watch? region, question. the these levels. Special

Gustavo Werneck

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Harley Scardoelli

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Operator

Andreas from English, in question, Bokkenheuser next Our UBS. from

Andreas Bokkenheuser

the on Congratulations strong result.

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comments? think in flat your much based steel do steel So in you questions. Those long so place my taking that's on not and are

Gustavo Werneck

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Harley Scardoelli

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Operator

turn now session and Ladies gentlemen, back Q&A remarks. the for I concluded. his Mr. floor to would like to the Werneck Gustavo is final

You sir. may proceed,

Gustavo Werneck

again, once today. for I Thank would like Well, to thank us you. joining you

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Operator

Gerdau's all participating, have is conference now for call and a you concluded. good Thank very afternoon.

You may disconnect now.