VirTra (VTSI)

Bob Ferris CEO
Judy Henry CFO
Jaeson Schmidt Lake Street Capital Markets
Allen Klee Maxim Group
William Gibson ROTH Capital Partners
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Good afternoon. Welcome to VirTra’s First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Omar and I will be your operator for today’s call.

Joining us for today’s presentation are the Company’s Chairman and CEO, Bob Ferris; and CFO, Judy Henry.

Following their remarks, we will open up the call for questions from the VirTra's institutional analyst and investors.

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Bob Ferris

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Judy Henry

and Bob afternoon you, good Thank everyone.

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Bob Ferris

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Jaeson Schmidt

if Bob, questions. your your my for is impacting guys, length timeframe I backdrop. the to with Hey taking sales start that with thanks just macro cycle the of customers? Curious engagement or want impacting

Bob Ferris

you What speaking backdrop to? are aspect of macro the

Jaeson Schmidt

your is war trade macro tensions if sales that if concerned getting has at Just cycle are customers the all? elongated and softening overall that the

Bob Ferris

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this So least at major seen from at least the any do business what we we not have at point, in tension with impact VirTra China.

Jaeson Schmidt

interpret transition that STEP STEP that's to normal program? that we comments helpful. indication new hasn't customers should as most are looking of product And the customers your excitement impacted Okay, from from be to an customers from less and program sales the may the current really

Bob Ferris

STEP STEP either that and same The for renewals are that the on we fair. essentially type they're -- I caveat put of also may and that options, of but renewals would clients customers up having that's there think VirTra them we STEP offering warranty the warranty offer prefer contract that's either warranty internally coming I contracts are would only be be sense. that renewals VirTra make interchangeable or but contracts revenue fairly instead

Jaeson Schmidt

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Bob Ferris

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Jaeson Schmidt

lot. a thanks Okay,

Bob Ferris

Thank you.


question. [Operator Allen Maxim from Instructions] your proceed Klee, comes with Our next Please Group. question

Allen Klee

now, on think revenues just Yes, sense financial guidance but for I that investors hi. they if they you if you earnings what I know know might don't of be XXXX, based than XXXX very on you and higher you you would you. or you if helpful be had provide in it if qualitative for Thank provide think some thought if color that. what were that any can

Bob Ferris

Our stronger be certainly as bottom XXXX. and and the would top well would be XXXX goal that line in that is stronger goal our line

Allen Klee

Okay, us then for very good And and backlog announced about bookings we you. you give which some Can how of recognized much of very That's thank the next XXXX? numbers. within helpful. sense or you might quarter that think should how were that get

Judy Henry

think contracts a quarter-to-quarter around in of take contracts on based and work. move lot customer's can again different substantially ability delivery. have the the And we I those schedule to

I good it's but can think break it on see very recognized of XXXX basis. them hard down a to quarter-by-quarter we in majority

Allen Klee

in you about you know add could there. opportunities a you about, XXXX? portfolio in else talk military about Okay. should which of opportunity Anything And you how mentioned help then I can patent think and the little you've talked calls penetrating military the few a ago,

Bob Ferris

is that revenue like be that military opportunity. what recognized wise. there solid So I big wise question look and The a think timing does would

think products VirTra military and that of track fuzzy, things behind having demand them. very, the where developed already products of do a you some I with those uniquely that's So situation having record very a have get for

it's bit that's it's I us Unfortunately, too identify good think it a XXXX, I is might But combination. too think early for hit, revenue is XXXX. to it really a early. when

don't the we -- So great visibility sorry on win. there's not

Allen Klee

on you think about much how terms the State you pipeline And there? program Department Okay. and in how of an the could us update is then available still sales give

Bob Ferris

that remain you're Yes, is intact. I IDIQ continuing, their State, levels program think Department funding so appear through to the of referring to

amount approximately believe head. least far that the of million that as $XX that already the is have off we million. on top As at used million I my they know, total $XX $XX of

to driving, And for opportunities. so simulator IDIQ. being simulating compete we carefully continue that that monitor to on important capabilities do think adding, We us new very is very in able

Allen Klee

take to impact June, My you XX% that into your know believe sold? up just understand, the if have you cost in to mentioned go from go starting tariff on goods question does will that last is but I by of you situation also the that didn't were Great. tariffs impacted an account that

Bob Ferris

history We’re not in that XXX% occur years. we haven't XX sure on since situation of this operational our had

we XXX% from won't on I give parts you that do happening a in But impacted we data would not can't overly optimistic it. we're that precise the not area that So we based past. on that be that exactly get answer, as say generally by that is I is China that that an the have

Allen Klee

Great, you much. okay. so Thank


Capital Instructions] Partners. William Gibson, line ROTH comes Our from your question. with William, now your [Operator live. proceed question Please is next

William Gibson

me, and base excuse the quarter? they quarter mute. all the or a from was surprised fourth drop by technology, was additional up good more the the did first here for year, on I Bob, operating is expenses sequential I spending the in go little hiring like given the on

Judy Henry

as for to that different the profit the Bill, end of getting of audit when lot that. year in QX, year-end sharing potential the happened things accounts we're in things happened such the like adjustments at year for

of year starts and audit. pretty then kind good and loaded adjusts out get But all year-end those QX true-ups for the based So tends initiatives. expenses back as on a at baseline QX to throughout

William Gibson

is that? there step backlog, sense. on Okay, any then that makes And the in

Judy Henry

is. GAAP applicable. XXX course under just definitely those there rules recognition started. all new And of revenue of are getting It's Yes, the

the will be over the revenue considered amortized of it So life deferred contract.

William Gibson

Thank you.

Bob Ferris

to strongly in as more feel, feel very overall very helpful conversion, the that it our meaningful. do especially very, revenue do we But that becomes we recurring future valuation be will

William Gibson

you. Thank

Bob Ferris

Bill. Thanks


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Bob Ferris

Thank you.

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