VirTra (VTSI)

Bob Ferris Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Judy Henry Chief Financial Officer \
Jaeson Schmidt Lake Street
Richard Baldry ROTH Capital
Allen Klee National Securities Corp
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Good afternoon. Welcome to VirTra’s Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Jess, and I will be your operator for today’s call.

Joining us for today’s presentation are the company’s Chairman and CEO, Bob Ferris; and CFO, Judy Henry.

Following their remarks, we will open the call for questions from VirTra’s institutional analysts and investors.

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Bob Ferris

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Judy Henry

Bob, you, Thank good and afternoon, everyone.

from quarter we of a X% of was Our $X.X million. $X.X XXXX This last in the recognized the was quarter total decrease of revenue for million revenue year. X second

simulators X in the decrease X accessories June the of X revenue with compared and was of revenues a to last delivered $X.X result consistent number especially and installed The months the $X.X period ending XXXX, months same due of year. in for to XX recorded the June in in was XXXX, first ended travel restrictions. total the COVID-XX reduction million For XX, months million, the our we the the

or Our the second XX.X% profit revenue million quarter to gross costs. in from XX% XXXX profit in reduced second primarily to the $X.X quarter of of gross of XXXX. increased increase revenue or of warranty due for The X% was $X.X million

million XX.X% For revenue. the $X.X in of to our XX.X% systems, of our was year, profit product in sold. accessories decrease of total differences months decreased and quantity total mix of The gross the due the X% profit from to X or million primarily services first revenue $X.X gross or and

second for million of quarter QX with year. expense last we of XXXX was the $X.X reported $X.X million, consistent in operating Our

the from $X.X selling, service For a million year ago. months of expense shows first in administrative for million ending $X.X COVID-XX and travel, general trade X result of to operating again expense same professional reduced XXXX, to restrictions. X% decreased the months the was costs June a in due decrease period operating and XX, XXXX, for X our The

last to XXXX year. a loss Turning operations from to quarter $XXX,XXX in QX $XXX,XXX our of operations for measures, was from of loss compared of the profitability second

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for XXXX loss QX share. second the net share of diluted last $XXX,XXX or $X.XX per in This year. to of or of net a Our $X.XX loss compares per totaled quarter diluted $XXX,XXX

in year ended net $X.XX to the or a our XXXX, share period a ago. share totaled June months $X.XX X per the comparable diluted diluted XX, loss For or net per $XXX,XXX loss compared $XXX,XXX of

Our $XXX,XXX adjusted year. compared loss, XXXX in second in adjusted of a last the measure, EBITDA QX EBITDA $XXX,XXX non-GAAP improved loss to of financial to quarter

first adjusted $XXX,XXX EBITDA adjusted of months $X loss For XXXX. of X XXXX, in EBITDA compared the of our first million X the months was to loss

Turning time we bookings contracts period. define received to purchase our in and signed and orders as the a newly of bookings backlog, total

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backlog $XX.X XXXX. March XXXX, is XX, ago, million, which and June of at the million million $XX.X was from from $XX.X reported our we year up XX, a up As

the sheet, of to $X.X note Protection intends amount certificates used X, described $X.X Economic equivalents PPP Accounts with amount loan company be PPP at expenses compared approximately of standpoint, promissory the had from no Coronavirus the in Act, in will to loan, $X.X end apply of in revenue $X,XXX,XXX given the $X.X in extent for company a and a loan of terms working end compared million December and terms, and PPP Aid, use or with accordance $X to the working Act. qualifying of XXXX. CARES but working the December the end, under PPP the Finally, note up ended capital forgiveness and XXXX. entire total are for to expenses at second entire XX, forgiven may XXXX, part XXXX Security deposit, up its as proceeds as designated obtain million capital in the our at million Paycheck whole unbilled cash or can in quarter Under we be in of received quarter amount combined May million the capital PPP, quarter in PPP December Relief, qualifying principal part. of assurance Act. the to From the $X.X accrued ended interest approximately Program, for note receivable the that to CARES million The the we forgiveness to XX, established VirTra period from On balance was XXXX. at and XX, to cash which million and

details additional my prepared financial earlier XX-Q, results, to remarks. it That concludes Bob. today. which reference back now our filed turn For I’ll was our please of

Bob Ferris

Thanks, Judy.

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Jaeson Schmidt

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Bob Ferris

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long-term sales. trend of is focus increased Our that to make a

Jaeson Schmidt

you have that’s macro? given know customers the from just seen Okay, STEP on have I the you but program, pricing helpful. pushback And any

Bob Ferris

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Jaeson Schmidt

a guys. Thanks perfect. lot Okay,

Bob Ferris

Thank you.


Please next at move Richard Baldry will We to ROTH proceed. Capital.

Richard Baldry

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Bob Ferris


reopen our for There customers move even phases, great own might don’t obviously, or installers. if there through states some travel. is internal their some have a policy of It’s to we question. infinite will a an of have number combination. that start their allowing and that is a is clients, – potential So, installation delay and chance a There

our capacity. is a there So installation limitation on physical

make staff that and Our we team we in to some great try been avoid does have of have to sure adequate job area. to bottleneck a hiring that, a operations scheduling

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would but all sometimes, is teams. hasn’t to a and otherwise priority We possibly, would the safety would horrible operations mean be potential be bottleneck. a are as used help our bit situation. the phase one that able but skills yes, do there But to move installations, further that watching But the travel. have they and has been assuming a anticipating are nation. so, they for to member has a some been. a while, it We definitely around would still there that we do for installation don’t could want of revenue that been We they have team our we transitions it think than okay possibly think quarter just off a that this use to – out, So staff would with who

level And but as that have so to we staffing had us not overstaff. unwind we very allow to have quickly possible, VirTra tradition to the been a backlog not also a layoffs. as to has mass proud had

notice. try at we we on been And moment’s to be careful around very with a looking have to add when be are to a to be staff, we So that fortunate able that. plan not we very let-go staff

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Richard Baldry

we about of sort another uncertainties there of variable, above spending you but balance how think that what PPP QX’s to fixed revenues And good level get sort maybe to the more the is modeling some popped then of more of an and out some we assuming some should started clear out the bit, with of And though, between like the would ability can the much offset about COGS backlog? of – so clear an at sort sort and quarter versus of line, as loan? a the look upside near-term as a above backlog idea the the way given look spending OpEx side to – of

Judy Henry

uptick, And we Well, believe of to of very majority are see the will uptick see in heavy a – in pretty We course, in I trade cost. variable sales marketing remain the on Richard, QX, going be reopening vast a that our but fixed show will, dependent sites. course, opening and same similar some events actually, of level. then in and of the do various

Some virtual. of them them to are moving

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So the that a in in anticipate mostly of staying I overall. pretty to little position. there bit of be consistent upside terms would unknown But OpEx in

Richard Baldry

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it ability address to that So actually emerged? flexibility or if your

Bob Ferris

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plenty able to to if So of it needed, obtain financing attractive and at we have being do on and depth go was rates. go

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Richard Baldry

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Bob Ferris

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Richard Baldry

build. the impressive lot. congrats pretty conditions Alright. given the a Thanks, It’s and there. Thanks and out backlog on

Bob Ferris

very you for questions. Thank much your


to We Corp. Allen Klee at will National go Securities next

Allen Klee

were this gross talk be in that Good might sustainable? reason you factor think margins if said And about there’s why you was And why Could expected. warranty costs. than in any you lower we you this the is? that higher quarter your that afternoon. The behind release, earnings had

Bob Ferris

for Allen, question. the Thanks, Yes.

countries year, So substantial had some that installations I international had in last we believe higher costs.

that so the we is situation. of did lower that And year, not ago. this the have margins had headwinds reason And a we year

to margins, I would, go. that’s comes recommend better way really So gross though, what at when level it annual at that an is happened. looking to a it

some quarter fluctuations. We – quarterly will have

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of I – mean So our gross margin. overall

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year, and – this have we so didn’t costs. those And

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Allen Klee

have to of buckets Thank you. that if question remind is, you could last major the of money federal might any being there money budgets police at us extent and additional what My if be allocated, all. the

Bob Ferris

they expense buckets capital have police Yes, grants. using groups some go There’s dedicated have a is police so operation charity like had that ability few expense get often for – then our have other the also buckets, to to simulator Sure. are advancing issues. a purchased the and that there’s or we

actually But money that to other and purchased equipment using buy a federal of few one Simulation forfeiture. also they is is the asset grants money. There’s had our are items so simulator. be to And grants donated, money forfeiture allowed they sometimes used that and used.

have track down assets, some when There’s those – used are that we available. top past. simulation are in various able that head, off But police the be the they buckets can of if buy then just equipment are a the those apprehend seen of so for criminal, than are equipment probably that. those simulation and the So to some the more my used to

Allen Klee

Okay. so Thank much. you

Bob Ferris

Thank you.


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Bob Ferris

join us believe and Thank you to are staff, excitement I ahead you taking our have. time I by you the extraordinary able you. sense hope today. firmly enabled and shareholders, We to customers, I appreciate days the are us all. thank of vendors, optimism all VirTra the for best

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