Cody Slach Director of IR
Mike Willoughby CEO & Director
Tom Madden Executive VP and Chief Financial & Accounting Officer
Mark Argento Lake Street Capital Markets
Kara Anderson B. Riley FBR, Inc.
George Sutton Craig Hallum Capital Group
Tim Klasell Northland Capital Markets
William Kerr Cowen and Company
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Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss PFSweb's Financial Results for the First Quarter ended March 31, 2018.

Joining us today are PFSweb's CEO, Mr. Mike Willoughby; the company's CFO, Mr. Tom Madden; and the company's outside Investor Relations Advisor, Cody Slach, with Liolios Group.

Following their remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. to call like to now would turn over the Mr. I some introductory for comments. Slach Please go ahead.

Cody Slach

Melissa. Thanks,

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Mike Willoughby

everyone. Thank and afternoon, you, good Cody,

e-commerce update, business which our as through will the financial business listen offering. into end-to-end our us service deliver today, into insight hear and our we getting additional Before you you call provide to units

to order-management is services, fraud overall services and range services monthly operations revenue, characterized in management margins multiyear the unit care, hosted for activities. business PFS including payment order XX% facilities. business in provides and generally fulfillment, gross PFS-operated recurring XX% engagements by This and Our technology customer

integration. provides marketing, business technology commerce and professional and digital and services, and experience platform strategy, LiveArea creative development including unit Our digital

recurring projects to revenue well project have and services business and We does in between reoccurring services is LiveArea retainers, digital a be discrete that existing engagements marketing nature. XX%. primarily by with in managed it characteristics this margins While of gross from generally target as XX% clients, level are as high driven

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also client experienced engagements Our as higher-margin of or to revenue, $XX.X primarily PFS the service increased performance clients. higher-than-forecasted reconfigured PFS incremental discussed. and strong improvement not large unit about XX.X%, was by for revenue strong the of efficiency generated for margin the the solutions Service margin did focus PFS which driven a operational business transition that had million XX%. PFS SFE basis quarter we gross higher-margin improved service in project activities XXX completed meet points business certain operations and approximately volumes our engagement on and PFS the increase targets, we of fee service The holiday of planned a client with and for offerings. a previously one-time margin fee after equivalent a year-over-year gross fee transactional as result certain project revenue, with

of Our million approximately at fee margin strong a gross about $XX.X LiveArea of service revenue fee business unit XX%. generated service

revenue impacted revenue fee into performance of project While which QX expense still fee service The for starts overall for also basis, negatively QX. operating reflecting very from On this strong at bookings $XX by million. unit's starts a project a delay was quarter. year-over-year, business almost previously LiveArea within the for $X.X billable company's in corporate large slipping disclosed XXXX resulted producing was the about of an a QX QX few adjusted lower impacted underutilization certain X% direct QX, of margin gross million service resources SFE in EBITDA XX%, and approximately growth the the

before on operationally Tom more turn the financial call and to how to activities, to in with like business over discuss up our Tom? further commenting quarter we the results I'd Now our wrapped development detail.

Tom Madden

good and afternoon, Mike, everyone. Thanks,

me the some of for highlights results provide Let QX.

QX did As compared SFE in million in which slight revenue, the as year a period. we $XX.X to see $XX.X reduction to prior year-over-year million decreased expected,

the However, engagements. SFE increased with management compared XX%, transition revenue lower certain points to driven to the by the XXX margins basis year, and gross mix, cost significantly margin as of prior improving primarily initiatives improvement

XXXX, million EBITDA of XX% quarter compared to first the to of $X.X adjusted QX in million $X.X For increased XXXX.

XXX a to of As SFE EBITDA points adjusted revenue, basis percentage increased X.X%.

favorably sheet. position $XX.X March million totaled a XXXX. at of was total $XX.X net and debt cash million, the net debt December to of balance XXXX, million to $XX.X approximately XX, At in position resulting XX, $XX.X Turning equivalents debt million, which and a cash compares

units, LiveArea discuss the operations. business two and professional our PFS services let's presentation Now financial of

organizational details, earlier, operations to me improve efficient an the more effort to remind create and have and our into changed to client we getting you that service as and effective Before structure alluded recently in focus. let Mike

comprised reportable defined by offerings they LiveArea based and services As businesses operating company operations units, the which service professional that are a business of the types of result, segments supplemental data strategic are is of the presenting provide. now financial PFS its on

fully a corporate, selling, addition, In expenses. that directly general unit certain are not presented costs are as and business to administrative allocable

for will the ended tables data provided two XXXX financial three today financial March of have in You in provided release pages the from the months XX, last segment see the and XXXX. we that earnings

units, costs the our that among expectation of costs and corporate to X evaluate may continuing business of the considered be been may segregation expense, and the direct certain expenses, the or the reclassified fees administrative X business that selling, future. with have from operating into the costs units in are historically within be administrative cost reclassified in additional costs general our and future, operating selling We to of

that current for had operations March we will buckets. if ended of The on by comparisons. would our of well adjusted expense data versus three data XX, assessment While months no we segment as cost this the PFS period will LiveArea business historical to professional fees in as classification occurred have do the financial as provide impact for EBITDA, between maintain costs order the impact operating impact at of the services our If that so, appropriate year-over-year and the segment beginning reflects XXXX our the period. segmentation it

transparency X We this you of increased visibility and areas are into the each will find insightful. business that hopeful

our let's quickly outlook. Now review XXXX

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also to million, XXXX. million to between from $XX to XX% up a range We adjusted EBITDA target increase reflecting and $XX continue company-wide

QX. level final to as GAAP SFE is resulting that $XXX low we that revenue year-over-year the included We same QX to and quarterly sequentially of new and LiveArea ahead item adjusted as $XXX QX range that staying as And EBITDA to QX project ahead basis, a a flat profitability saw all then XXXX. million expecting From look we in high QX $XXX transactional June million recognition revenue into to we to compared our a adoption perspective, we level operations excess are in relatively don't as SFE look currently disclosure to we PFS like increases companies, the mention will of be projected I revenue a of expect our and lower on decreasing quarter, with volumes One that the from the SFE revenue U.S. first slightly in million. of revenue to is in activity range public growth to requirements. double-digit quarter will $XX a expect see projected continue PFS to experience million single-digit expected with rate to

guidance, certain statements information While finalizing the of our under we amounts still financial under disclosures. reflect the new footnote are process properly new required in the

expect remarks. And prepared we filing slight as our a for to the period X concludes delay turn March This have in the X-day back such, my XXXX Mike? activity. I'll XX-Q over to we Mike. As call complete this to

Mike Willoughby

Thank you, Tom.

our make the and individual earlier in as reflected mentioned for business in I into insight progress As more prepared units continuing we're providing comments, community. investment Tom's good to

long-term And PFS X% the so business SFE XX%. revenue rate specifically looking unit, is at target to our growth

line pleased offerings. expected growth efficiency during This Tom financial through objective However, on to operational indicated. with focus in profitability PFS moderated and result I'm the top is business our very our year, quarter. higher-margin with this primary the is this PFS Overall, focus service as engagements and for improved performance of unit improved

results stronger-than-expected launches. PFS quarter including for our from Our several the new clients, volumes of order some reflect

look and managing we during This forward Our immediately also started on gross to a our targeting improvement and expect to XX launch, days result range is client the start. within markets quarter client targeted to remainder after vertical solid to margin an expanding of focus typically EBITDA after launches gross achieve improved approach and margin of to the targeted for working the technology established in hard from sales solution. within adjusted compared the live. business the this benefited in our that on XXX clients build results perform unit to current facilities I year engagements, a go our operational profitability to almost for implementations

in a contract average combined programs that Turning Average lifetime we first will four signed replacing year projections. strong several metric to contract to annual is $X.X sales in we the quarter, revised PFS client a the past based on annual report approximate new value have had million opportunities. moving start activities. current for new worth contracts value We we business years. used development forward, contract the a revenue In

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on product an Magento a and and market, the for consumer a client. agreement scheduled line LiveArea end-to-end we Lastly, packaged for the new to PFS units. we signed program third from live is providing the Go an This launch e-commerce in existing both will client launching the quarter. is built goods into platform new services business be early

a We services. established maintain we that continue business verticals. engagements higher-margin of revenue XXX reported refocused end smaller, units to fits On we strong PFS our last opportunities both contracted, XXXX, active client our pipeline at our objective the that recurring maintained provide across to call, within as

client our end PFS the PFS growth each At client for engagement, metric Once XX end Moving our a the found operations the a services sense of engagements active can the forward, corporate give of services size recurring same XX XXXX, client and reminder, quarter of maintained business as revenue Using active we client operations. at report from client representing receiving first will again, for be XX engagement the a were quarter. each business on unit QX programs for our XXXX, audience of the PFS website. brands. definition an to definition

project margins XX%, to to at rate unit, I our looking LiveArea starts business grew sustained growth gross earlier. that service QX Now X% expected in to QX revenue XX% target XX%. is of the mentioned LiveArea long-term reflecting the range of XXXX, with approximately XX% the revenues fee slower compared

QX strong bookings team in to early reflected the However, in for our business close sales worked the hard LiveArea quarter. new as

and and retainers that projects start worth signed of certain been annual the to average LiveArea new With better in permanent and year-over-year of year LiveArea has first in utilization said, increase XX% opportunities. for to of had the XXXX. approximately team and rates million QX strong in staff order quarter, compared project sales $XX.X making Our the levels we a contract In contract we contracts mix to value, to operations to adjustments a manage respond very projects.

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activities the global including supply little appliance manufacturer we lease-to-own and and are color to have the products, two a for quarter, LiveArea furniture, a and pleased of electronics also a for major retailer. Ariens, launched on brands, For safety within

bookings large and project for goods in goods Our kitchen a included premium the supplier an and and activewear training retailer Nordic table; which that QX leading sells American vehicles a of premium quality recreational include supplies; region. specializing technology camping implementations, corporation for the in and three

updates in our call, New lingerie We we Shopify-managed QX from a designer continue SMB and based Expanding earnings Shopify have strength our on with increasing deal company a started services to see York. practice. in new one our

LiveArea contract has part the new nice three bookings a Europe with cosmetics brands number. of a in completed performance improvement as with the seen engagement of also a our another have retailer. services Shopify-managed We operations signed for QX

the help in luxury expand jewelry services We of of portfolio significant in a EMEA. merchandising lead and also to marketing manufacturer digital will with us landed which for a site retainer and crystal U.K. glass a goods our jewelry,

look retainer pipeline recognized bookings. both client engagements quarterly and $XXX to revenue a within our and as LiveArea our We two performance revenue projects range project in continue strong to both to expected retainers from next maintain represented of quarters with million recurring current close new we million the from a to and opportunities our over guidance base XXXX drive $XX

end a to the indicator reflect maintained the of I for will it's of projects indicator the overall the the for of corporate As unit But and quarter-to-quarter XXXX website. an to quarter. our working XXXX, marketing found one technology-managed important engagement our and LiveArea client We're scale of be portfolio. services. active revenue. on expect QX on this believe of unit business client business or XXX supporting or again, retainers engagements a project metric fluctuate digital client of with our an of the LiveArea I likely programs definition the have as pleased first started growth LiveArea Once strong reminder, can overall seasonality

service drive will As continue leveraging year, we growth e-commerce we to of and in expertise efficiency and the profitability. look the to platform revenue, fee proven our on to remainder focus operational

to our will implement show industry continue to a including strategy, at booth also trade events. various commitment presence go-to-market segmented We

major a in audience in to we brands, joint events, from representation National enough Federation early appeal at the proved both successful was to Show few This IRCE including both January strategy the with attend For show the June. sides. upcoming Retail Chicago Big in diverse as will

of the to of expected events, Tom unit industry all to you questions we forward communicate forward audience. engage continuing business will to answer look And exciting investors tailor presence various and to to and For events. see continuing our I to some look story. most these our We our with at

at And always, meet as by to available over for happy the ourselves conferences have next various nondeal we'll with make call months. investor and will we're phone. the to few open roadshows We now Melissa, you opportunities Q&A. up


Capital our come Instructions] from Street question Argento first [Operator will Mark And Lake from Markets.

Mark Argento

guys, good Hey, afternoon.

couple a questions. of Just

First, the that's thanks helpful. basis for additional visibility segment on the fairly

getting it's I of, lot. on relationship. the Just wanted copier, a a to not in - guys your on development know of to with an there but here? talked printer Have reformatted first it the the contributing in rest terms continues to any be just at resegmented a I'm you reported basis kind be I been or revenue; Obviously, - of flows bit business assuming about, products the least that the know - of anchor kind so or of in dig to margins that continues little

Tom Madden


So the product this - a activity. as mentioned, as put forward recently, we've had you decrease seen to we seen this quarter, revenue

calls. which prior stable for years million this us up support XX% business the we've a the at discontinuance to is year. XX% because remainder And talked million call over about Ricoh, lines, Ricoh's almost one two product decreasing I of of product think makes of the line it, a those activity product that and XX% that lines of has $XX to now on about, business We or been relatively a the flow planned $XX has then line. for

As would be we line just for to through as this primarily ongoing to XXXX, significantly. reduced product deteriorating going the into expect us, product forward. that of pretty year, supporting look this stable we look rest And be business we

So like But some forced the this line we'd our all us a we from have some a into to characteristics impact service that our business. expect We standpoint. be creates profitability And on. at issue of recognize to like that not of the investor audience. clients some profitable have time the we the of kind to other this of because of fee at in point, relationship operating migrate a us. point relationship we contract top still it confusion don't to for it Overall, negative continues still performance have to

Mark Argento

it. Understood. Got That's helpful.

it No, okay. we'll leave yes, that. at So

dollars, line you new you you margins, to is talk is discipline more strict you're kind Or just have a churning Maybe when - demonstrated about services new could bit off guys renewing how over which that thinking - them less of less relationships profitable relationships? you're improvement, on to to improve top a additional improve of adding margin growth, think existing having some margins. in can structuring able terms you us ways, up? little margin obviously about where signed the contracts and basically In ability get business that more that time help is about

Mike Willoughby

you I hit think of opportunity actually, look the at. we all Yes, of three categories on that

relationships continuing experience business we client and to in clearly but And each also call units. both had LiveArea is for the continued that, picked a expand. unit, opportunity, you where success within another to up doing we current we evaluate end-to-end and And first as business land The to have my what within quarter, And particularly client unit. expansion each might services. both opportunity prepared comments, across PFS opportunity this had the on we with business support

sales the And client cycle so and to they within both profitable of, line. land to also takes to that engagement to continue line continue But the opportunities certainly margins, as expand that side. to particularly we more more and those LiveArea advantage the that's begins. PFS tend find we the to bottom probably our best once gross and top the do And the see the services client a both from expand lever we at a be, improve

the And #X expansions so client lever. are

last portfolio, work margin portfolio reasons, we XX to done. biggest We engagements successfully. QX been That to where would large steady-state may be quarters accounts. client engagement past to client our clients. each sure of targeted to in a the of to more this underperforming adjust we're work where us that that be certain we continue the to XX involved to those we is our not, as managing a will mode within various largely now look we're There client transitioned range. client going lever for client appropriately that but performs our actively mentioned given I may in for gross make our at of say months, Over And year second eliminate has that

spot, cost we which a operational both clients leaves engage think activities service around results for focus client, operations that I for either is gross contract I continually the bottom speak, lever mentioned. a reduce So of opportunities the that in of to one a client, so goes which renewal the that to of more in second or becomes optimizing our us, the now - to mode with a margin to and those, basis for ability for mentioned, you is normal on efficiencies looking will to the providing which the a higher

of job to continual Our margin. obviously providing implementing our clients, at and methodologies which better process the efficient team has job, services done a improves do for practices be improvement just more great a gross standardization

the We from around services, which improve also continue the particularly of our or management technology services PFS delevers hourly margin, margin end as labor are that PFS look to a the components providing gross lower the and to to add that at gross engagements business infrastructure business fulfillment service, range.

think, continue things see continued to initiatives be, us. important those those So we'll this from year. to results expect I And I

our the that think becomes I business. margins year lever gross improving second this for across

Mark Argento

trends then through line And kind do by you That's seeing GMV gross the you right. - question volume are the What sold one was products than what are you faster the of Is PFS revenue? fulfilling? that merchandise there? business. How with In on of volume of see guys clients that of revenue? kind helpful. being growing your - guys All kind just

Mike Willoughby

the direct-to-consumer And patterns holiday ordered that see generally, think perspective, same our often, I growth around from clients you metrics of most the year-over-year industry kind you see increases. experience a growing. the overall

Mint. necessarily we of clients past, is doesn't our at that largest U.S. are relationship, growth which things There characteristic. Mint, same some our the not said The have exciting going U.S. As in the that. all on client experience

they see correlate sales, one And revenue larger the in always that Generally sort their over where pretty an client's that's speaking, most see improvement our not a our but so but that we if the couple to, our the correlation, side of correlation. on given to tends our business, overall the steady to of that we'd GMV of been rate. of the it's growth, And would past effect try you relationships, expect dampening same to years. PFS in our to correlated potential GMV, at growth would to there's that be probably we revenue the clients were have necessarily

price the If there you volumes correlation. do some transactional wouldn't fixed that is with look those, we are fees There at type certainly we how necessarily and increase that GMV.

so to certain linear. wouldn't in of tiering And provide client an our it back mechanisms scale then And transactions client. benefit be certain have economy engagements, that

you increase see additional But And so PFS in may volume increases you our more. see the without should a track speaking, lot linear business revenues. a truly generally

LiveArea that say On not correlation. would there's the a side, I necessarily

You has may certainly certain client for we're willingness do project wouldn't where necessarily their to ability them, correlate. to pay project client, a necessarily willing see the without to high regard us And and a flowing program. for that the GMV GMV do revenue where the from a through


Our Kara next FBR. come Anderson with question from Riley B. will

Kara Anderson

afternoon. good Yes. Hi,

on the speak can seeing competition to seeing types of wondering side, as are compelling whether to table clients. you're your outside in has are you existing at the didn't you're of opportunities the normalized And churn or bid that And equation. you last of remind question the now standards the point be, profit who that could not those that the So all? would changed if operation clients the the much at enough out operation us I'm are Mike, far as meet lower your business of for then of

Mike Willoughby

happy Sure, to that. Yes. address

online, past, verticals fashion, And luxury, Cosmetics, lot see we health about fashion, particularly, accessories, have I work the talked all best of say that vertical couture, would in CPG, characteristics. think that our are with that brands high-growth there and the a well beauty, where to that. and think high-end, footwear categories I health are be beauty, continue that So reasons you markets. and those have several for exceptionally I fashion,

efficiencies that the the the we very are is our ability solution part and where leverage to market Those and are is where the our to things the between to implementation mature those new love are verticals that in a high be gaining well-established and and during traction, brands where operation. get and we commonalities of. and reputation solutions have coming both got You've into also all market

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a part target to key continue I that's, it. we will verticals. And those to think, So

have We case That our to services in speak, referred is XX a client to these the would Obviously, offer even a provide also proposition hope have that client where are in the the are way to distinctive, the programs have our that mid-market that this to spot, in a provide provide as value-add say, is they'll contract. sales the to the to that they grow, take in us. we with with brand where programs of continue we for these that services support million year might so high-end $XXX one way kind clearly our as a cost-effective very for and all services clients somewhere our brands earlier we great with verticals, starting time sort and where of PFS value we each the particularly that a services call engage client They engagement brands scale. spot that because of able I at point. found sweet we between, tends to are way the a is sweet above within XX the services million expectation at that $XX But you solution master across our valuable replicate the the single sweet personalization, spot doing continue in is to as support our a certainly be online sales around a top from under end difficult is a of and differentiated very manner. extremely client and for difficult point

So we what we'll do. target that sweet continue spot, and to that's

think we growth of talk the business we rate about to works we hear going do have as might deals you'll less that, As side, anniversary that where last a the as say, talk think XXXX. had a I that for us. that a than was PFS that year, to bookings about X% help this I I we - in But PFS discussed the that X% that more think result, drive year to on really back to This intentional. discussing, will year, year, XX% we been it's some churn just earlier. smaller

do line. certainly would X% regardless offering support the that rate. on been competitors. name XX top XX% to good the I capabilities they we which expect service thing, changed some that competitor expect care, Radial, but past very see growth around Competitively, to payment we has customer moderated our can We services broad traditional a their services, Their offer. the of But of what considerably. say have lot the sort on long has that the They're over management, term, same that growth has same of focusing continue the of kind rates that operation a We see certainly strategy years. been still I

sure. called competitively well. Trade BrandShot, recent landscape, company addition Saddle Europe, traditional new particularly, as we competitive see environment, Arvato a there's have them. seen Having around recent so that Global the some gone around challenge a still we is but acquisition, which there them And fairly see for but we to through players the or we continue adjusting And Creek, see then to in I think, to them a

continue on win we're answer to I quality And our can the want personalization always, look to think, to service in revenue especially and the and we've we on recurring X% differentiation Tom, the support churn? price, targeting. question but future, then, that we our versus brand of sort add differentiate rarely expected to of low will we of primary footprint you win a do the rate. deals the as based be X% want and verticals project, we cost we largely targeted value to, and think As the indicated global on bidder sort As being on is the of we

Tom Madden


annual would X% be that made X% of somewhere growth to that single-digit as growth to same total somewhere Growth clients X%. the by to from growth we somewhere X% that X% in X% then PFS to indicated, that business of would And also new in of X% in So for operations up with that range. X% range high range. X% same existing of expected clients of That Mike also offset is, clients, existing an a churn have rate. to or

it's make in to somewhere up of and subtraction X XX% So threshold. kind X% X adds that

Kara Anderson

very And Great. more the All helpful. is that one hopefully, just information quick.

challenges you're the with SG&A - that? as corporate you about are provided, cost supplemental business those are of the you costs kind segments? are allocated allocating faced the On information to further think to What what

Mike Willoughby

the of So There include the Legal. services. and direct elements are units are Global clearly, and thus Services business functions Finance, shared embedded services the take those Information And some are HR, that we cost. business of business that Accounting of and within in would are advantage unit, that those

large it's probably part look clear pretty that's so already support at company $X that would if expenses, units. the services business a we impacting in extent. are And public put number, to the And million. as range contemplated the of those $X that two of of I true at an million think we you look to But

Tom Madden

million to $X $X.X million. Right,

Mike Willoughby

direct be as would methodology to as we in I'll service a the effort remainder units. might of of XXXX to continuing look the for and let And at the speak to some units. allocating look Tom what those business far business at Right. the

Tom Madden


sure the as control. initially like that up in But directly to as the reporting that that have will, business not in we I units make would had in comments, reference the both between new that structure, owners continue activities. that costs revenue in made our there's to corporate into costs on was were that we to SG&A explore business proper control. unit left ensure their As items that moving migrate focus the shared and cost we you of my we were and right are to a we SG&A Certain set business the services and really to those their of streams and the if directly focus segment alignment those, on trying certain

the that and the those we responsibility of units some to operational So of a those activities level. but see as aren't it's further to involved would units to opposed costs those a of out management corporate with at migration pushed be not today, like business just


with from question take Craig Hallum. we'll George Sutton Next a

George Sutton

I implementation the LiveArea the you, in Demandware of business? the perspective What's just platform environments? et What wondered What's the Thank us the working? could SAP, broadly for cetera, guys. challenged you part are give business. the if business, a in labs piece of you seeing

Mike Willoughby

question. for George, the Hi, thanks

spoke year we Some that Commerce practice to last be still continues place trends formally of in our Cloud are the practice. largest that the to Salesforce in Demandware

significant, percentage Class the of my a platform clearly, amount see to opinion, pipeline our C to market. the to particular in targeted platform. think, being It opportunity think, enterprise B remains, best I in in continue I that of We or

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George Sutton

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Mike Willoughby

comment to speak the, commercial and side the I'll let on maybe value. Tom

company I think beneficial this initially, for exercise has been operationally. the extraordinary

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Tom Madden


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Our next question Securities. will Northland come from with Tim Klasell

Tim Klasell

Hey, guys.

been I've out? as between sort here. what should calls quick for But expect the the between question segments this forward you. a we're modeling X Just And differences Thank of there we going sorry seasonality. on the I'm jumping

Mike Willoughby

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Tim Klasell

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be? zero. to minimum go What can't it you do So the think would

Mike Willoughby

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Tom Madden

evolving process. right focus what control think made the in Again, going numbers you But tell drive are an costs. great more progress to to we have the to moderate I right. look and the To opportunities be, to organization we and it's throughout continue order for

Mike Willoughby

operations the direct comparison doing Yes, methodology, so find that because of looking the apples-to-apples one wanted that an we view if internally to sure continuing it commit it reflective make things thing and really continue that's we and business that's like regard prior way to adjustments is we that you're have approach with to to we same do is that. segmentation we what if make that do, the allocate, to did a you we opportunities are at will change provide compensations, way the at we're looking that we year to will to the


question Cowen and Champion with come next Tom Company. from will Our

William Kerr

could color in some longer business if the give term? I there for This is Tom. you expectations And additional for Bill wondering was on be the what your Europe. might growth on just

Mike Willoughby


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Tom Madden

U.K. In

Mike Willoughby

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William Kerr

of just when do you And That's more, clients' I over could. the sort getting as clients Great. one targets mind you then if think have wondering time. how about total of super in a particular portion clients proportion route? that go does of to I And helpful. trend any was end-to-end

Mike Willoughby


both couple by therefore, our clients A consume elements those of about question. definition, XX% end-to-end. revenue XX% could great and services Right of different clients. end-to-end a PFS it's to be But So now, around LiveArea of and attributed the there.

are more they valuable of so stickier. When the They're that benefits. whole set lots the are of clients. clearly clients just services, have consuming And we there's

profitable. more they're think I

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this to over Mr. time, for this would to the Madden At like I session. remarks. closing concludes turn question-and-answer back call our now

Mike Willoughby

in our to feedback can the during call look that This evolve Melissa. tell, you the getting to present hopefully, with We're incredibly to as We're, everyone to continue you, Mike. the be is year new excited business. and today. that business you to We Thank like forward main the attended I'd thank in to this developments you. excited able from format.

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