PNM PNM Resources

Lisa Goodman Director of Investor Relations
Pat Vincent-Collawn Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer
Don Tarry Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer
Chuck Eldred Executive Vice President, Corporate Development & Finance
Paul Fremont Mizuho
Alex Morgan Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Jonathan Reeder Wells Fargo
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Good day and welcome to the PNM Resources Fourth Quarter 2019 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Goodman, Director of Investor Relations. ahead. go Please

Lisa Goodman

conference and morning Jason, Earnings everyone joining website for for Call. are supporting Thank on available the thank PNM this our this presentation the for note XXXX and Resources us other Please documents you, at that you call Fourth Conference Quarter

of our team. Resources' well and President Chief Officer; as are Joining and Pat Vice me PNM today management Vincent-Collawn Senior CEO, several our other members as President Chairman, and executive Don Tarry, Financial

Before call some need the pursuant PNM update expectations obligation current should statements the caution Securities I remind information to and that Resources estimates We forward-looking assumes and no XXXX. Private considered you morning forward-looking I are turn Litigation all Pat, based to over of this to the that Reform this you upon information. statements of that the be Act to provided of

affecting our quarterly annual results, discussion Form For Resources' please the PNM X-K detailed Form filed on reports on to refer as reports as with XX-Q, of reports a well on future and Form factors SEC. current XX-K,

With that to call the I turn Pat. will over

Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Don Tarry

thanks Thank results recap on you us. and for get I'll our X. a started morning XXXX good of Pat, joining with and everyone slide

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Pat, back turn you to I'll and call you. thank the

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Transition to exit to be passage Act accomplishments to becomes The the The have confirmed for emissions-free our the San path Thanks, especially Energy the more applicability to Don. our by XXXX, and groundwork generation laid of XXXX. critical Juan coal XXXX transition filing in plans certain.

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more will and transmission our this We distribution well to power changing for current integrate look with opportunities flexible must same baseload grid resources. as replace to time, review the as future our resources portfolio. At evolve

in dedicated our resilience but goals without would the have XXXX shown tremendous We through proud the you. say reach our keep members. work together. I recognize and Thank I not teams not enough, realized can't It to year saying it in members achieve was but to trying am you, to and I easy challenges value show team, of are commitment it. ways, our and team many of success accomplishments how appreciate an I'll have the working we alongside much to

up open questions. Jason, it for with that let's


Thank you.

session. We now question-and-answer the from ahead. question Please [Operator Instructions] is will Mizuho. from The Paul first go Fremont begin

Paul Fremont

I line for just directly putting for Other business looks as you've slide, the the the TNMP. characterization? earnings which you're just also into a and I is to to Yeah. wanted share dilution segments opposed that retail as put dilution PNM it on Corporate why fair showing clarify power degradation the Is the and guess into if

Don Tarry

Good morning, Pau. Yes, that is.

balance you'll it'll that we the each have as it record accounting Other through see will the as we the when pay to fund And So of segments. that up down and our firm in just debt offset and both Corporate dilute capital actually roll it we sheet.

Paul Fremont

convert, on terms had – come convert amount a been that that same? little has the the what down And of in previously? bit of the is it the then that's Or

Don Tarry

equity million mentioned I forward, early the our previously with issuance pulling equity $XXX have Paul. and think We

the We to down. have have bring to flexibility that

$XXX the that to later up The would million, timing of $XXX XXXX. in at million. looking we're So be

Paul Fremont

last terms update when in then me, you would And for any question file the likely a timing Great. on case? general of of rate

Pat Vincent-Collawn

the at looking Paul, still timing. we're same

Paul Fremont

the early quarter? So second in

Pat Vincent-Collawn


Paul Fremont

Okay. you. Great. Thank

Pat Vincent-Collawn

you, Paul. Thank


America ahead. Instructions] Please question [Operator Lynch. next of Dumoulin-Smith from The Bank of go Julien is Merrill

Alex Morgan

Hi, is calling for Alex good This morning. Morgan Julien. in

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Hi Alex.

Alex Morgan

mentioned the I just of slide. our drag the on double-check know the new on are taking you earnings questions. for should proceeds corporate deck shares wanted of to or to power reduce be that Thanks the to going I wanted that, debt. else accounting check slide thing I this only that's if just that's anything to for? the we December there's line the changing compared issuance

Don Tarry

morning, correct. Yes. is Good Alex. That

be corporate would pay to proceeds debt. used down those So

would -- that's moved mandatory the item line issued be so, equity we've into in previous change be convertibles. that other left that up The would it, financing would equity we've slide, the from because financing would that now as be all the

Alex Morgan

longer-term past, you, future RPS maybe wind Thank your and maybe much. for but opportunity just any it been you wind, looking I ownership very know any solar And whether in you. the maybe be mandates is at potential on haven't about thinking opportunities. Thank there

Pat Vincent-Collawn

for that in we Yes. Alex, some batteries it out we you've lowest-cost they when at emission-free to continue I commission us sense because go out for some makes look go they times the resources. we are out and do the the our to think, plans our own Obviously, But there there an want proposals as think make to opportunities portfolio. in plan, towards requests of ownership are further there. get will and sure to solar will seen the as replacement

Alex Morgan

Okay. from me. a Thank That’s so much. you, have great all day.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Thank you.

You Alex. too,


The from next question Jonathan Reeder Please go Wells ahead. Fargo. from comes

Jonathan Reeder

didn't I fall sleep. Well

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Well thank, Good you morning. Jonathan.

Jonathan Reeder

Good are all you morning. How doing?

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Jonathan. now sleeping here in Chuck's Good.

Jonathan Reeder

doesn't surprise man? doing How That one me. That bit. surprise are doesn't me Chuck,

Chuck Eldred

Thanks. I'm doing Jonathan. good

Jonathan Reeder

hear The a just you transmission more Good around I'm the quick your can of explain are little voice. funding familiar that how not PNM? maybe for with session. Two eligibility legislative wasn't questions, I both does to bill. the like impact -- that projects, kind bond

Pat Vincent-Collawn

projects to but qualify by those Well, for it it doesn't potentially than built IRB. utility transmission other public us, a allows impact for

obviously that not going these help the developers projects So, obviously, necessarily the of but energy. renewable to down. costs would We be it's takes facilitate

to So, transmission of easier if we build it's it, would own to it any lines. going make

-- of kind in Jonathan. potential renewable helping just put unlock piece its it New it's of as the So, Mexico I'd another energy puzzle

Jonathan Reeder

like Bill that And looked transpired that was it did sense. with give on squeeze XX XX. you dealt it like House an the makes of What mean, kind seemed update there That us House PRC momentum I behind Okay. reorganizing can just then, -- it the by and February there?

Pat Vincent-Collawn

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that the which very last So was what happened instead another though was bill Jonathan Bill on day that XXX. was positive House passed -- there

forth be what it And by does process is set nominated. the which will the commissioners

Committee. So seven will Nominating governor make will the set a recommendations. person up They

up talk So passed get then we what let's the back see really can helps can't it legislature if amendment passed can get and questions, how have says to appointed? appointed are are one really that is come So have going we constitutional amendment if to set because get going constitutional commission first. other this the an we the about obviously, voters stuff. is, of If okay the this they we

on was thought PRC a they it it soon reorganization. think little I too that was So more

Jonathan Reeder

Okay, okay.

helps. that Now

Pat Vincent-Collawn

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look would like. help So appointed you the will what that commission think bill see I

Jonathan Reeder


XX of Some had I those aspects House kind been right? in guess Bill incorporated of

Pat Vincent-Collawn

yes, XXX. House XX House staff. the that qualifications focus put it this of was part XX commission Most part Bill out there moving most of of the really and into -- was on took either yes, – Bill the of But

is of the the title Transfer have to Public is think Health Welfare the Peace, of office bill and PRC. missed it marshal's fire people the Safety out might reason I

title it's I So a catchy know.

Jonathan Reeder


Just rolls tongue off the so...

Pat Vincent-Collawn

It does.

Jonathan Reeder

and Well congrats was appreciate questions Court my the surprise for Supreme taking That in on that. there. weighing getting you a good

Pat Vincent-Collawn

you. one. No great a problem. Thank Have

Don Tarry

Thanks, Jonathan.


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Pat Vincent-Collawn

we to we and And you, yourself. be Please thank this you of make that very all forward and protect soon. look please coronavirus Jason you you Thank go sure Thanks. safe many everyone. seeing through as


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