PNM Resources (PNM)

Lisa Goodman Director of Investor Relations
Pat Vincent-Collawn Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Chuck Eldred Executive Vice President, Corporate Development and Finance
Don Tarry Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Ryan Greenwald Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Anthony Crowdell Mizuho Securities USA LLC
Jonathan Reeder Wells Fargo Securities
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Good day, and welcome to the PNM Resources Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Goodman, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Lisa Goodman

Thank you, Cal, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning for the PNM Resources second quarter 2020 conference call. presentation available conference pnmresources.com. on the supporting and that are documents our note for call this other Please website at

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Don Tarry

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Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Ryan Greenwald

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Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Don Tarry


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Ryan Greenwald

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Don Tarry


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Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Anthony Crowdell

Hey. Good morning, Good morning, Good morning, Don. Chuck. Pat.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

morning, Good Anthony.

Chuck Eldred

morning. Good

Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Anthony Crowdell

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Don Tarry


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Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Anthony Crowdell

over large that? a Siting or delays, park or a potential to that like something transmission national project have goes

Don Tarry

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lines substations ways some and that of existing local as well, substations that again, But ways of repowering as have with a on restructuring transmission have might with right our distribution that. improving siting system our the replacing and well. we already of and already approvals feeder have expanding Also, we right associated communities. of poles it's which Some lot on

Pat Vincent-Collawn

but it's an informational when a go Anthony, filing, XXX a do a there's called a substation, And process commission, just that we so. you through big

Anthony Crowdell

much PNM Great. my hope the team Thanks and so questions everyone stays taking for on healthy.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Same to you with you. We hope see soon.


ahead. And our from Jonathan Reeder come Wells will with go Fargo. Please next question

Jonathan Reeder

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Pat Vincent-Collawn

Jonathan. Any time,

Jonathan Reeder

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Don Tarry

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Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Jonathan Reeder

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Pat Vincent-Collawn

That's fair.

Jonathan Reeder

said is get set. the you schedule about I then, thinking you procedural have mean, initial on any the know you received request? how I to approval? If ability And are the not, feedback for Okay. decoupling

Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Jonathan Reeder


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Pat Vincent-Collawn

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Jonathan Reeder

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Pat Vincent-Collawn


Jonathan Reeder

so Thanks Okay. much.

Chuck Eldred

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Chuck Eldred

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Jonathan Reeder

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Pat Vincent-Collawn

Jonathan. Thanks,

Chuck Eldred

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