BKH Black Hills

Jerome Nichols Director, IR
Linden Evans President, CEO & Director
Richard Kinzley SVP & CFO
Ryan Greenwald Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Michael Weinstein Crédit Suisse
Brian Russo Sidoti & Company
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Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Black Hills Corporation First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Daniel, and I will be your coordinator for today. [Operator Instructions].

I would now like to turn the presentation over to Mr. Jerome Nichols, Director of Investor Relations of Black Hills Corporation. sir. proceed, Please

Jerome Nichols

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Linden Evans

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Richard Kinzley

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Linden Evans

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Instructions]. [Operator

with Dumoulin-Smith comes first Bank America. from Julien of Your question

Ryan Greenwald

is on Ryan This for Greenwald Julien. actually

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Linden Evans

that we -- before, the said important would are to decision. rate It us Ryan, we waiting for of for terms the In be review, as we're read decision.

decision, of review indication there now, once review with nature. at we're there ALJ I were for months and a trying that reviewed As many was the which just that haven't resolve to or some I issues of rate things too consolidation that couple

the for important actual how -- order, you be us, not think if going to to written a see maybe very or -- lay if I tries it's the So path will. commission whether out to

into So that take we'll consideration.

we And several have options. as you indicated,

but acronym called RRR kind We decision. get to have of an opportunity of the to SM option. won't reconsider the back their what's right, it's to I a That's go in review commission Colorado. one

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the are capital, to respect With we reliability. and capital for investing we that think is prudent the customers' safety

intend growing of state to that is in is that continue state Colorado, to a invest us. capital watch it for the we certainly will But capital We closely. which

Ryan Greenwald

in guys of rider there, And eligible? are Got you it. then terms that assuming recovery becomes assumptions your

Richard Kinzley

Ryan. This is Rich,

approved the denials ALJ the that of rider. was One is that made and the

rider wouldn't we So mechanism get to it in that place, until eligible. move

Linden Evans

true. It's

Ryan Greenwald

you the could participate touch expectations And early well as on terms enough. your of the in in And just play ability early any to as today? then your then blow Fair thoughts renewables? vote on

Linden Evans

did We bids. bids RFP. low bids the Renewable would receive relatively, I The Advantage in solid very say, were

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Ryan Greenwald

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Linden Evans

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Ryan Greenwald

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constructive a options of your in terms latest resolution. not and you're then timing, spots-on just reach to if So able

Linden Evans

you for Thank Yes. question. that

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next question Andres Our comes from Crédit Sheppard Suisse. with

Michael Weinstein

a rate bit speaking. is of focus talk kind filing? -- that about this going Could this on What's Mike Weinstein to that the summer? you little Actually, what's Nebraska

Linden Evans

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Michael Weinstein

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Linden Evans

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Richard Kinzley


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Linden Evans

all if to will, the ahead try curve. territories, pandemic authorities we got our flatten you curve as on of, the the In the

at largely, we've discounting been low some And But in for, certainly so relatively who cases you ill, other in relatively Arkansas all. argue, except virus, has had our relatively, anyone not positive and for states territories, not could the Colorado. But unimpacted.

able or to it's be nature, So businesses lot our pace, now at the have our we of official a reopening, economic And the been slower to economies. will. intentionally the continue a you to as impact interesting closed happens within just it's territories, very over week next two been more what Mike. because an of if see rural with have And our going of

helps that you. hopefully, So

Michael Weinstein

guidance quarter say, right. your be you're doesn't All gas of assuming in would any though, fourth that load, a because issue by reduction that include right, mostly that. kind to recovery fair Is a it and

Linden Evans

that's think I Yes, fair.

Richard Kinzley

third probably some you it We way quarter coming I think we're impact by by fourth side fourth that quarter, a gas in and said the minor do the and and year-end. quarter back It's on the in is anticipate second the the bit fair. little but

Michael Weinstein

many Okay. What midpoint the payout of that kind internally XX% Is ratio? you timing out? have -- to dividend for years achieving XX% that how of do

Richard Kinzley

We haven't disclosed that.

haven't better anything a think in yet think of that. terms way about guidance. I Obviously, beyond we XXXX to earnings disclosed

payout answer earnings support that So my that I long-term said what won't script, I ratio. just growth directly. reiterate in prospects I'll our


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Russo question Sidoti. next Our from comes Brian with

Brian Russo

the answered. to was quarter? A have my used million of million $XX been in curious, asked and $XX questions of first lot in that guidance, much But PTCs how just of your the

Richard Kinzley

actual things through quarter. year. actual credits. accounting, credits of proportionally comes each have it to hours of The kinds produce those through the FIN those But megawatt generated occurs the with our generated production we recognize that income those XX tax actually evenly pretax Well, to in

recognized year's tax we production in -- first make those the of sense? the full XX% expected credits. year's production that XX% quarter. of full The Does really expected about So

Brian Russo

COVID-related be at $X.XX might all what then of And great. what's to net between the $X.XX related sales Okay, expenses? headwinds, down could you versus break that

Richard Kinzley

utilities. that. I and all not that kinds we're intentionally models have bad those But of detailed obviously, calls And us just other mean, there. guess things. doing We have intentionally all at loads, we our in We're all because debts is on best. opinion, disclosures, that other too throwing darts not get the we're internal real at both done pandemic. -- People our that early we've looked from the in the

frame we've So approach. up chosen that in bucketed to it

Brian Russo

I look it's net And little imagine $XXX of million -- debt-to-cap it's Got because then it. would offering down the come Obviously, Understood. to you cap. equity range? a in into take of bit. debt completed the of for how When February. years, XX% low to you we that through do couple the get mid- or XX% to long going next it's think to

Richard Kinzley

to the equity mid-XXs. first biggest couple years. the want It more earnings is Yes. in earnings issuance of retained helped. And out. just is quarter Obviously, dividend We get the the quarter first a $XXX -- to beyond our take that contributes then should biggest to one paid the quarter fact our our million

years going answer point basis XXX it's to X that to where take your to want be. drove But to reduction. really question, X, that more So we get

Brian Russo

and that the plant? about volume What demand reduction Just year? the get Wyodak trying for out in feel Is first Is just in the to decline the a year-over-year. reduction -- outages. I the we time electricity? of And planned it. the XX% for that to should volumes just due throughout kind quarter and a -- be Got Mining planned understand on segment, expecting

Linden Evans

fact primarily there been constructed are in the been wind has reductions so state the of that much related Wyoming. have Those to

So it's dispatched first.

in And operating where transmission at it's full oftentimes or capacity. so position put of constraints the not the transmission Wyodak lack a can

of demand the we'll as on a of the is little -- electricity the a going less state in with see it on So renewables for a increase goes reflection of It's reflection how the that forward. it's Wyoming. less


further ahead, With back remarks. Go return will Linn for Evans call questions, I the to closing no sir.

Linden Evans

Again, Thank we'll everyone to Please face-to-face for safe look our joining continue as you, soon we stay can. well, be you to thank us as everyone call. Daniel. actually and forward to seeing on and today

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