Compass Minerals International (CMP)

Douglas Kris Senior Director of Investor Relations
Kevin Crutchfield President & Chief Executive Officer
Lorin Crenshaw Chief Financial Officer
George Schuller Chief Operations Officer
Jamie Standen Chief Commercial Officer
Chris Yandell Head of Lithium
David Begleiter Deutsche Bank
Seth Goldstein Morningstar
Joel Jackson BMO Capital Markets
Chris Shaw Monness Crespi
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Good morning. My name is Abby, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Compass Minerals Fiscal 2022 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded, and all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. you. Thank Instructions] [Operator now Head turn Compass of would to Minerals. conference Douglas Kris, Investor like I the to over And Relations for Mr. Kris, your begin you conference. may

Douglas Kris

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Kevin Crutchfield

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Lorin Crenshaw

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David Thank first you. Begleiter [Operator we And our take Bank. Deutsche from Instructions] will question with

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David Huang

Huang can offset on inflationary expect Hi, good to guess, pressure And winter? David the I about HDI for Dave. the for early salt is next you specifically, your thoughts when morning. first, This talk fully here you contracts do reset? pricing

Kevin Crutchfield

only natural or early morning. enough bid to take to recapturing at And markets more talked quick we I a think at value attempt the an XX% that also there's add to as want strategy make ones market And inflationary earnest is the by before, reposition the costs. our additionally, sense that is I of I'll in so impacted we've portfolio a these are don't us, those weren't about we're to part color. serve where our have absorbed. competitive that, may know, that about, into we that stab roughly the good season. to were some we And But Jamie Yeah, and only costs advantage.

So further up far. Any pretty setting we comment, things about are how Jamie? feel so optimistic

Jamie Standen

No, that covers it. Thanks.

David Huang

and will then in And unit also production maybe year? can thank half the you. second, discuss you trend salt how costs And the next into second

Lorin Crenshaw

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through upcoming the the in but not just restore indicated, this year. the reflected half of that Kevin to we bidding season, second expect As profitability be will would

David Huang

you. Thank


Morningstar. take from with next we Goldstein Seth And our question will

open. is Your line

Seth Goldstein

everyone. questions. taking for Good Thanks morning, my

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Jamie Standen

through Seth, we relates through set season. bid contract I that would summer prices say the this to deicing, as is highway it will Jamie. fixed our

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Seth Goldstein


us appreciate at And pond to such much harvest looking you future I works if do us really better give details potentially the appreciated. the within be year's will can better with year that weather do be production can't than any guess, Or but help production, I be think Okay. increase could to out details. turns SOP, can a the next to expected? impact weather system about you how

Kevin Crutchfield

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issues like to to color I Any do. a confident to of while the got George? But kind what we've work to take to think we're add around it's you'd that, going hands know our through. we and

George Schuller

minerals snowpack Look, that been the of we've it. majority persistent it's then whether pond whether referenced magnesium, drought last No. can it that And it's mostly out different you it's a throughout challenge. you few summertime, of a the types seen around at other time, in drop Again, factors think years. system temperature, makes those a things those highlighted the the really over I and wind, limited Kevin, which

it's majority we again, So I you. Thank drop covered but making the sure just place, it you think out of Kevin. right it that at the

Seth Goldstein

Thanks right. my All taking questions. for

George Schuller

Thank you.


question Capital our we next [Operator will Instructions] BMO Joel from And Markets. take with Jackson

open. line Your is

Joel Jackson

Good Hi. morning, everyone.

Kevin Crutchfield

Joel. Hey,

Joel Jackson

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Kevin Crutchfield


George Schuller

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pack what back pumping I designed this and But I again, of reference term, and what our and longer systems. around might dikes, look to actually last, we the chemistry around the designs really what as holistic a Again, taken is optimize short And drop more on effects things quite long-term you are actually and the those a over minerals you trying chemistry those through. out end-to-end that the term done and focus is help of six bit on. we've as spent such the drought, have the some like. controls months process to more that or solutions. But engineering those So really around eight the when being snow profound and go how time optimize I'd pond a to both short on raising go effect switched say, we've pond and our solutions to really

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Kevin Crutchfield

do. Hi, just is to plant let me do what Joel, add will that, designed the

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George Schuller

and two one Joel, one year I'll - in that Kevin, too, do to it's is to everything process. more a we And mind, three thing adjust, keep more that, Joel, add

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Joel Jackson


here. and lithium that up also bridging into Following

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Kevin Crutchfield

seen our second this Let we don't going to is don't one believe first, DLE Joel. through affect lithium We ions far, anything thus me think we've the of the tackle ability to technology. the extract

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to side. case more want is likely think that But we use different is one DLE chemistry the Chris, add from would not that? technology you I to anything side to because

Chris Yandell

Thanks, Sure. Kevin.

we it, really, as And for look technologies. Joel, conversion two think, aspect different then you BLE side. caveat at of BLE an there's and I technology it [ph] do what to the

to carbonate. into to So or DLE to carbonate you hydroxide from can convert hydroxide

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of at is the you also they our technologies, the speak informs to continued to rigor evaluation that look those what think process we're decision. I our assigning that but

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Joel Jackson

you. Thank

Chris Yandell

Thanks, Joel.


we will with And Crespi. take question next our Chris from Shaw Instructions] Monness [Operator

Your line is open.

Chris Shaw

whole of ahead season, average fuel of average morning, price or point, sort the business? it's of ton, maybe Good How either offset inflation magnitude, on surcharges everyone. Yes. you of get On the would bid looking in current to need are the increase transportation to salt, order at across on this book what your you doing?

Lorin Crenshaw

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Jamie Standen

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Chris Shaw

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Jamie Standen

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Chris Shaw

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Kevin Crutchfield

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Chris Shaw

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Jamie Standen

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Lorin Crenshaw

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Kevin Crutchfield

Thanks, the keep forward, navigating again, we strategic updated. everybody, as we'll and each opportunity to with you We you. for appreciate engage and and path time feedback participating of today. you our continue do your value Thank really


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