TC Energy (TRP)

David Moneta Vice President-Investor Relations
Russ Girling President and Chief Executive Officer
Don Marchand Executive Vice President-Strategy and Corporate Development, and Chief Financial Officer
François Poirier Chief Operating Officer and President-Power and Storage
Tracy Robinson President-Canadian Natural Gas Pipelines and Coastal GasLink
Stan Chapman President-U.S. and Mexico Natural Gas Pipelines
Bevin Wirzba President-Liquids Pipelines
Robert Catellier Capital Markets
Robert Kwan of Capital Markets
Linda Ezergailis TD Securities
Jeremy Tonet JPMorgan
Rob Hope Scotiabank
Ben Pham BMO
Praneeth Satish Wells Fargo
Patrick Kenny National Bank Financial
Michael Lapides Goldman Sachs
Andrew Kuske Credit Suisse
Alex Kania Wolfe Research
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Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the TC Energy 2020 Third Quarter Results Conference Call.

As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there’ll be an opportunity to ask questions. now Vice turn President would to conference I Moneta, David of Instructions] like the to over [Operator Investor Relations. ahead. go Please

David Moneta

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Russ Girling

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Don Marchand

everyone. Great. Thanks, morning, Russ good and

As results issued $XXX million to share same $X.XX XXXX. was attributable common the for third to the $XXX quarter income or share net today, in million outlined or in compared per period shares our earlier the in $X.XX per

was billion attributable September per or to net ended $X.X $X.XX in months XX, or billion share nine XXXX. net $X.XX the income of compared income For to $X.X common per share the XXXX shares

a to equity a XX% $XX previously in included Third after-tax along the disposition $X gain with after-tax power interest loss Ontario plants. the quarter GasLink, the the gas-fired of Coastal an sale adjustment incremental results on million million natural on of recorded

items, quarter management $XXX earnings excluded and changes Slide on of as third per discussed million compared our earnings. These activities per were specific also including common risk share unrealized outlined gains comparable million in for XXXX quarter further from Comparable or third from quarter or shareholders. $X.XX $XXX $X.XX XXXX. common in report share losses are the to items XXXX included in Third specific certain the and

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the third Natural expense maturities. and by higher U.S. in the XL, interest fully million short-term the the lower long-term amounts levels lower net mainly Now the tolls quarter, Canadian to largely of to quarter items partially million XXXX, the interest in from was Keystone million projects largely interest $XX primarily noted in increased to million XXXX, borrowings XXXX. placed with on income. income in third turning million the XXXX, a expansion basis. the Interest inter-affiliate to on million expense in interest $XX same account earnings million Again, of and Mexico in lower joint the lower which decreased our in $XX for period loan last this consolidated venture projects first related XXXX on quarter primarily rate-regulated compared Sur was reflecting de segment effect other decrease of on and $XX the recoverable NGTL depreciation down Pipelines, period of same expense peso-denominated Gas for in loan capitalized quarter reflected offset of year-over-year, was other completion rates in equity year. Alberta investments due period are in previously corporate Napanee in Texas from the resulting impact in debt $XX new of interest of service share decrease System in same on offsetting Comparable mainly to interest from the The of receivable peso issuances, our due in placed reductions $XXX versus the to $XXX is Canadian lower Pipeline weakening on XXXX, Mexican income on proportionate third $XXX and million to rates Gas rate to compared flow-through included comparable Pipelines and of service Gas net pipelines. pre-tax was net income $XX AFUDC Natural tax due the income no in income $XXX and due million on income statement quarter Income amortization to XX, flow-through lower million in earnings, Slide tax XXXX. Canadian taxes Natural

of pipelines year Pipelines interest high-teens. to of flow-through of comparable Natural quarter AFUDC non-controlling third net therefore quite in be in with to and along due to effective $XX equity million increased taxes are with by XXXX. in a $XX same quarter the the $XX in share last full income Pipelines, attributable U.S. mid variable XXXX LP. were item million Canadian earnings dividends our relative Comparable Gas tax higher primarily third the preferred line we year, expect on Mexico income And income million where at Excluding period finally, rate-regulated to are rate income TC to and

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should occur. Canada of effectively position commercial XXXX, fully of period credit any and U.S., to we Taken paper navigate and $XX billion funded disruption facilities prolonged together, along and for in in committed place programs that both confidently are well-supported the with

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and Today, strong are and long-life premium cash resilient, to a options, secure and high-quality Our generate through overall internally poised generated earnings billion solid funding suite projects we offerings. which position underpinned flow service of advancing array fundamentals, parties are of flow robust. by $XX cash remains counter attractive

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David Moneta

Thanks, Don.

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Robert Catellier

Russ François start to and allocation on capital on retirement that everyone, wanted morning, congratulations a with your and question, I understanding your Good on role. new focus long-term. your

your How dividend capital You’ve maintained the with your dividend spreads but growth? interest look anyhow you allocation virtually does influence guidance, widening fill to with that release, obviously at. and rate strategy – any press this

Russ Girling

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Robert Catellier

that you fulsome Thank answer. for

very question has how obviously, But high the of the long other hydrogen see with interplay economy of give development I view do with the transmission economy, time assets? level a a haul had over hydrogen you us The with can early days. to you

François Poirier

is Robert, Yes, this François.

we a clearly do yet, deploy it’s our for capital absolutely as opportunity see gas days additional early long-term think assets. to but I transportation us into it

work becomes to the when business storage of would our for and foremost lot be our percentage hydrogen we methane, what and There’s the hydrogen hydrogen of power still as safety which obviously, safely in cost Some understand we going competitive. of employees is to could actually concern our fields and blended – pipelines. a our convertible operate. forward communities done of storage be into that be our generation to even in With more needs

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Robert Catellier

at there, sense a I makes when shot be had that? your described meaningful what’s point, but for – Everything dated. wonder the Yes. timeline complete long made? it in can I obviously any the level, you know what but if of it’s sense, it’s What’s best at investment you this dark a high the guess?

François Poirier

I to too think point, Robert. early on investment opportunities it’s individual speculate at this

Robert Catellier


Okay. everyone. Thanks

Russ Girling

Okay. Thanks, Rob.


ahead. Please comes next Our from question Robert Capital go RBC Kwan of Markets.

Robert Kwan

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Russ Girling

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Robert Kwan

transformational line just to And the or large a M&A green business scale pursue either your willingness business? infrastructure into to up within bulk on new get then really

Russ Girling

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François Poirier

capital we for just to demonstrated not the we think that, transaction, a organization, the competency the a competitive that a only question, Columbia past from have in add Robert, you advantage. very well and Russ, look Maybe we’ve and you what I businesses our thank as integrating discipline to into Yes. but view at of standpoint,

and present an management do those situations extent, and opportunity to of of the have willingness the we to the a integrate team’s opportunities to themselves types evaluate ability so. rarely types itself, So over Those presents career.

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Robert Kwan

Got it. Thanks.

the potential see negotiations, year anything just how material of I could of wanted of at in financial update you And haven’t you just get to early, you is to Columbia, company? one say the that for the get terms filing least can you’re have the impacts is to but that it a on you to finish or moratorium, with fact just fair can given negotiations? there talk if So waited any potential as magnitude, out give into the I timing know the the you

Stan Chapman

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Robert Kwan

so you Thank much.

Russ Girling

Robert. Thanks, Okay.


question from ahead. Securities. Ezergailis TD go Please of Our next Linda comes

Linda Ezergailis

Thank you.

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Russ Girling

you. Thank

Linda Ezergailis

potential U.S. across not Columbia just case your network but tax Columbia be just into might in incorporated gas rate the I’m pipeline about U.S.? just I’d how increases any With – add the further settlement. to your prospectively and in wondering rates, question Robert’s

Stan Chapman

Linda, Yes. I Stan. is equal. this All that. can address things

rate rates mechanism obviously our in are us right for implemented. any system. file would our that increase some We sort income to to in the rates. We ongoing embedded have will higher that recover now include our that file case Columbia to should expectation a cases allowance have settlement ability And tax federal would have be be of the

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Linda Ezergailis

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Don Marchand

with I’ll start Natural it MOU. Law it’s then respect Good morning, and Don. to the over Linda, turn I’ll to Bevin,

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Bevin Wirzba

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Linda Ezergailis

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Bevin Wirzba

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very years, next We’re several over Linda. confident the

Russ Girling

think I maybe add And that, just Linda. I’d to

asked implement into and You our legislation moving of life the policy going criteria on always view and we’re obviously themselves manifest to actually be, we’re concerned mean, assets. into And had have capital capital what been moving the have about would the initiatives initiatives to policy the if are, over return obviously legislative of we’re these recovery regulation. looking of and the frameworks. move milestones frameworks, for, – from what the regulative then that which announced I

cost are then carbon those put we for, regulators going to think sinked they’re be looking be. our some I going with cost regulators least up And analysis. signals the when where in are forward pricing using of the benefit we’re are their to alternatives, how

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Linda Ezergailis

Thank queue. jump the in you. I’ll back

Russ Girling

Linda. Thanks,


Our next Please JPMorgan. question go comes Tonet from ahead. Jeremy of

Jeremy Tonet

it a Good energy off bit. a bunch here, kind Maybe just but just out of maybe transition on starting morning. rounding hit

seems compressors You the sizable it pretty like about talked there, opportunity. a and

types? generating as than opportunities here. you’re fuel with ballpark far pumped speaking, for participate And wondering CapEx electricity be see kind able in mean, to the I a could as if generally That’d be hydro, energy do of it kind billion Just along what helpful. seems to more there. other renewables share like of transition you few compressors

François Poirier

access fleet would where regulatory only – transmission the a question, time, of – literally of like supply in the of for literally of thousands megawatts. actionable might and available, generation as Russ is said, tending this need supply grid Obviously, looking the entirety for preferences. to to subset thousands one do in – Thanks reliability is the the decisions, into be going upon our of policy. Jeremy. near-term. our up but to we adhere the access would the are regulation to we’re to Obviously issues allows risk legislation factor gas all continue catch And signposts in compressor be that those from equipment And direction, policy us over the those construct we’re until we and our for factor to backup things like to for trends conservative in and backup as be

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Russ Girling

I provide can some Jeremy, context.

at in Your our in basis about continue flow to it question what bigger is takes this earlier forward is, X% this company is. is a capacity is to yes, to my of free for breadbox, to grow going than around, But it cash annual of an back going comments that on neighborhood XX% X% the $X billion.

we terms billion capture And things are find dollars, system, François capital the investments forward growth sustain the governments current get mean, of the program I measuring going all our that company? multi-billions positioned said, to on $X you mentioned, And the of well ongoing measure on you’ve company can can rate billion of what basis. of if the capital just So turnover, our $X of We trillions an to in we of this about you’ll stock that think as is beyond annual growth billion. extremely in an basis to grow dollars. $X we’re need

the the actually doing Power next meet less, those refurbishing If years, looked a just things things Bruce much billion $X that today, that desire the for year to you down of of some talking we’re the other at kinds we’re emissionless reactors XX about. dollars road that of just

with in deploy to confidence the statements us continue. the desire are trend is going gives a future to to and going what we’ve This is made People that’s growth. to deploy that respect across capital North footprints largest we the capital And position more the of into actually and make to America one have America, that occur. systems and environmentally North more across energy delivery making best friendly. So efficient

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Jeremy Tonet

distress here happened about these talked seems being I you of detail. LDC year, And on helpful precipitous of the that during Thank And like quality update we you quality the transmission, historical assets cheaper assets But than given for seems Great. for this was there a map you’ve the in side, wondering possibly That’s before interest markets It spades decline, kind points could could the I what’s then, thinking was given quality last cheap stress. there, you talked just U.S. the in enough past. it periods you electric you. the have up that. much presents if PEs And even easier days. year. assets talked maybe in about high be is of us picking being not like maybe about like

those that wondering just on provide So you could thoughts topics? any

François Poirier

as I look by distressed at improvement. always high opposed think M&A has underpinned assets points This distressed been us think strong formula cycle, to quality as we have, we Jeremy for acquire about in as sheet. patience that assets the we a successful and to require a balance

other think that And of assessed I looking on feelers. to some I part at side capital price. implied growth. own requirements, is to sent opportunities, my different purchase if capital I And that we’ve any of offering be need would And we’ve a own you the could the cost counterparty. implied the of as raise the compare the have So willing external the out acquirer potential I in and inquiry, of were capital cash the fund would that my that to form of of I is in that sources cost internal

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Don Marchand

here. Don it’s Jeremy,

billion position program proven beneficial the on ability secured $XX are a replenish in to and having of We that. our

– but to it’s same comprises our reliant the grow, that not for today. stuff on we’re again, M&A portfolio looking high we’re answer, we’ll be So quality – for François patient

to the up looking spectrum. risk move not We’re

not might jewels would we that crown GNP cases, entities transacts We’re when it the many will we are sense. in we what not and sitting distressed now. if most act assets like. of transact and the are, or in who see North right But looking given And at America in and want makes

Jeremy Tonet

Thank helpful. That’s you. it. Got

Don Marchand

Jeremy. Thanks,


question of comes Hope ahead. Scotiabank. Please go Rob from Our next

Rob Hope

Russ François Good and well. and as morning, everyone congratulations

XL, on on business U.S. that initiatives earlier? of Just growth a to you oil next some crude another you’ve that those sidelines, your with you recycle at have administration capital mentioned the of question look Keystone if lack looked allocation, potential capital there? Could

Russ Girling

policy a XX two very still will or heavy to continue refine the need will is what the environment are today U.S. world’s refining that oil, in million U.S. value. still and is But, barrels still East, sort the Canada. resilient always that, Gulf the most look that’s limited, quite Coast options XX start that – we I the degrees that of in is indication to Every to add shareholder have the And mean, oil, I and for that the even capital day in that going fundamentals, know we the way a Middle guess, complex is Venezuela The there Coast complex it world. with in oil. frankly, deploy we Gulf sophisticated largest of the scenario.

so our corridor is the Keystone an corridor. as And extremely as it we exists valuable look at – today

XL minds. that has that’s our in be look to and forward a Canada, oil continue business complex. But to it. to world How that be expect result something demand COVID, world’s issue is gets it as crude the a obviously and biggest longevity on that a will gets very why you seen to other today corridor the has And in stability huge standpoint as that value important seems destruction the most utilized today. we’ve at the is where being we an high the from going That’s question of egress. out, expect are borne and And even continue things short at the That is forward. Keystone to rate. very, that of lack we that still third a largest the industry going think industry environment being TMX in why largest reserve That’s sophisticated to the run important. in I refining connected

fundamentals. So those still are the

long look for on and that any available who’s I fundamentals And from Don, those support at look heard now, with hard to contracts. you’ve sell and XX capacity had would we counterparties. be then terms we’ve to think François and long-term year credit base would Keystone, at more right historically, I to worthy capacity we fundamentals, done if what we willing we say, able

Rob Hope

little will from NGTL XXXX? over for you altered delays Thank to the how right. kind color And XXXX capital approvals schedules All deferred of how just then to on And have and Can the add System. there? you think of pivoting you that. a be construction bit much the

Tracy Robinson

Sure, WCSB. competitive. really Rob. even period, the and this very critical prolific volumes NGTL asset WCSB And been through a of strong for positioned course is is have the COVID well. very

go was capacity or result year. was a out earlier this that we still a infrastructure to little So had bit moved was perspective, We from of to The we market needed. delay critical. season either an all in that a planned timing of of access is check place of the a a it portion market a to on around just it year, is, facilitate although indeed did open that season to it whether put the that

so our accommodated that. seen timing little as capital result, a bit And you’ve from changed a we’ve a And perspective. program

increased recently program. has finally a just approval the – had the thing had the we course other that’s in the happened we in that of If here. one is, of you or of received number conditions We got approval – delay And the it. XXXX enhanced GSE

like move program altered capital the in, the shape of well. So the as that our delay program has of

add I but that then So net remains that capacity back $X out XXXX but over we’ve the in and the billion and off providing we’re laid in same. the of the movement think we’ve our just the come basin to by program disclosure, XXXX, on XXXX

Rob Hope

All I Thank you. right. that. appreciate

François Poirier

Rob. Thanks,


go Our Ben next comes question ahead. of Please BMO. from Pham

Ben Pham

François announced on then, when Good analysis? or incorporating allocation, look the comments a just your this effectively taxes IRR forward including this projects, pump on carbon theoretical hydro emissions DSG store, as you’ve capital like is really, just Thanks. carbon snow no you’re ANR Hi. new morning. posts a in doing around On and since transition thing started? you are you and and

François Poirier

the for Thanks question Ben.

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emission greenhouse We’re and about gas our thinking hard own long strategies. reduction

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Russ Girling

think of prices, much to example, prices. you make we allocation as on look forward, commodity going but capital we a – pricing, what and tell is that fundamentals decisions into there’s either we give it to those carbon too a look then, this XX commodity As for investment to a we do to us, view Similarly, rate look try incorporate uncertainty forward for with wouldn’t a about of long-term assets. to like. we capital, based deploying allocation market we’ll thought on our our and confirmation which Coastal finance pricing we What similar base, forward that can year of uncertainty or look And make the what primary understand an the of to XX going on about there’s on GasLink get capital XX respect that don’t with it’s based just to of decisions term return contracted structure we because view for get carbon capital where through recovery year project that long-term example, capital a in contract. capital

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Ben Pham

in the sort X% your that do on or it return? for think Okay, Bruce to more hydro great. you it is target on X% Thanks return? of NGTL more that battery storage, that. Is And an where range, fits Power pump of sort return,

François Poirier

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Russ Girling

have of But is I all within the can end preferences to that our continue. think risk range thinking. field into this spectrum sort we risk to that that it’s in expect are us of in operate on, cases in to don’t as said, commodity lower for that you time, have I take that that some expect or incorporated any risk forward that range, allowed that that like things expect

Ben Pham

retirement, Well, Okay, that in going and I’ll congratulations I’m to great. not to tough the François, and calls again. Russ, sure leave appreciate best miss firmly, it. question our these for all thanks taking the you’re earnings Really over years.

Russ Girling

Thanks. Appreciate it.

François Poirier

Ben. Thanks,


Our of Satish Praneeth Please Fargo. next from Wells question comes ahead. go

Praneeth Satish

let my to and go Russ congrats well. as Thanks. François both And I’ll

than of at some Is recent to Columbia? hire the wanted ROE a at looking it the of XX%, looks for surface, least higher Columbia little Just rate other rate the requested on case, the circumstances cases. specific bit some pipeline that ROE there here

François Poirier

when mandating preferences, Yes, is what look risk just ROE we to think are you overall, factors Cap setting XX% respect their that within (NYSE:M). with sparely with risk I DCF, FERC new XX% at in to our policy respect

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Praneeth Satish

it. got Okay,

And sorry, ahead. go

Russ Girling

that in a of I is that equity say, into would that is has standpoint, in be in clearly your of capital just capital think perceived of the The from environment ROE the we’re goes And environment equity certainly equity cost we’re into which what our cost industry, is, don’t to I been the you clearly injected ROE in. of that risk the an can has cost argue ask. the we declined. consideration

Praneeth Satish

advantage takes? is And what’s building others, both the battery more Is Ontario a guess have puts just out hydro pumped doing versus you then least for of at one curious, the expertise what additional effective storage cost and I’m or project than I investments in both. in that

François Poirier

at there’s of the battery here, a scale project – alternative in eight there contemplating certainly, reliability duration. Meaford that is the It’s duration. can hours a standpoint, a and From we’re deliver is no megawatts. X,XXX that scale, So kind

pump reliability But is there a yes, duration. a it’s question. storage at also length So cost advantage for that of

Praneeth Satish

you. Thank


Kenny comes Bank Financial. Patrick question from ahead. next of Our National go Please

Patrick Kenny

everybody. morning, Good

required Can project you until point. have with Alberta confirm you the border-crossing after place in and and look as also claim guys fact up well? your in this far back KXL, essentially can, all just is you done you is retracted the the what Just might as have? election, might a the recourse good taking that you job on government infrastructure presidential permit maybe re-file legal NAFTA as the Assuming to previous if

Russ Girling

Thank you, Patrick. Okay.

have the in taken international creating we’ve past listen the all mile X.X that completed We have We this year. border-crossing. made the basically But stakeholders year completed project. for vision and a the earlier new to to progress great

unions, five American First for have a as the leading with fund established agreements those Nations we’ve already North discussed. energy for trade green equity partnered We with unions labor as partners signed

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proactive are And it. project taking approaches approach so take, certainly advancing more and can continue the but there positioning recourse the we’re the and a plan we to

Patrick Kenny

last LNG comments. to Thanks there’s on assets into Okay. relative get this can towards if or global or those towards your accelerated already we capital not invest thoughts your network curious decreases extending your increases and push for Lots basis, time infrastructure updated on gas transition, discussion energy a whether say, year, to the clean around of just willingness LNG energy

François Poirier

It’s Thanks that question, François. Patrick. for

of gas of we fired. purchasers the There’s fire the reduction that is meaningful. the of extent obviously clear First all, benefits are gas to are LNG with that replacing to generation greenhouse coal component natural a LNG think

opportunities talked not might will be I evolve risk going over talking and where on forward, our change. where allocate the allocation about time about forward are. As preferences is capital Russ going our our capital will and What based we model

of extent we credit in worthy counterparties. the to by or underpinned long-term have capital either the so And with to an opportunity LNG, contracts in invest assets likely regulated more case

of We’re type that to investment. very open

of opportunity it. would value an chain, the part in along if future that so evaluate And we the presented certainly itself

Patrick Kenny

Bruce is with confirm green legally candidate be hydrogen? refurbishment that And the prohibits just with from agreement Bruce? hydrogen front, might there respect to Or you you those a generating integrating something opportunities for on the can if Power hydrogen within

François Poirier

have don’t detail. that question, latter of level the On I

we our nuclear long-term you. the of is the asset for refurbishment at a as contemplating. of to is that we’ll hydrogen opportunities hydrogen green to through production follow participate planning Bruce production beyond part So we’re very strategic with terrific green electrolysis. opportunity class set as But be for have the look something to clearly, power And in much of units of the Bruce and up going

Patrick Kenny

and those on for congratulations comments Russ you your to François retirement. Thanks Okay. and


from Goldman go of comes question next Michael Lapides Sachs. Our Please ahead.

Michael Lapides

echo LNG you, that the owners? bears charged taking announcements. congratulations retirement, questions my that and cost, simply incremental easy building the of for owners, rises, Coastal shell can A other Thanks the question. or the succession, embeds you, who cost couple us that of does to I’ll who that to And gets the if for you project remind including GasLink tariff raise

Tracy Robinson

it’s Michael, Tracy.

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Michael Lapides

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Don Marchand

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Michael Lapides

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Don Marchand

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Michael Lapides

Thank much it. you Got appreciated.


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Andrew Kuske

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François Poirier

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Don Marchand

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Andrew Kuske

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Don Marchand

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Andrew Kuske

very you Thank Okay. much.


go comes from Wolfe Alex Research. ahead. Please of next Our Kania question

Alex Kania


questions. two maybe Just

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Don Marchand

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Stan Chapman

with this to your second Yes. is And then, question. Stan, respect

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year. So stay with an you QX and next give us we’ll update

Alex Kania

Congrats thanks. Great, François Russ well. as and Take care.


this contact go and there over gentlemen, concludes the call Ladies Energy Investor are question-and-answer I the Moneta. now turn any If TC session. will further to please Mr. Please Relations. questions, ahead.

David Moneta

your today. Okay. Energy, interest thanks participating appreciate you we forward to in much Thanks, very We look for you of great TC a Have again and to to talking and all soon. day.