GNW Genworth Financial

Tim Owens VP, IR
Tom McInerney President and CEO
Dan Sheehan CFO and Chief Investment Officer
Rohit Gupta CEO, Genworth Mortgage Insurance
Peter Troisi Barclays
Joshua Esterov CreditSights
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Genworth Financial's First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference. My name is [Shion] [Ph], and I will be your coordinator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

We will facilitate a question-and-answer session towards the end of this conference call.

As a reminder, the conference is being recorded for replay purposes [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim Owens, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. proceed. may you Owens,

Tim Owens

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Tom McInerney

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Dan Sheehan

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Peter Troisi

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Tom McInerney

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Dan Sheehan

Tom. it pretty I No, think you covered well,

Tom McInerney

Peter, anything else?

Peter Troisi

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Tom McInerney

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Dan Sheehan

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Tom McInerney

that give I to Dan. one

Dan Sheehan

Tom. Thanks, Okay.

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Peter Troisi

the much very Thanks Okay. answers. for

Dan Sheehan

Peter. Thanks,


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from So, CreditSights. take we'll Please ahead. go Joshua now question next our Esterov,

Joshua Esterov

morning, hear me good taking question. Can Thanks right? my you guys. Hey, for all folks

Tom McInerney

We can.

Joshua Esterov


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Tom McInerney

start will with We Dan. Rohit, then and

Rohit Gupta

Tom. Thanks, Sure. Joshua. Hi,

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Joshua Esterov

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Tom McInerney

that? to add anything Dan, to

Dan Sheehan

that I pretty Thanks, No, Rohit. think was comprehensive.

Joshua Esterov

guys. Thanks,


call further the turn back no Mr. as and I'll questions, to Ladies for gentlemen, are comments. McInerney closing over there now

Tom McInerney

thank call And the much, you of joining you very Shion. Thank all to you for today.

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