GNW Genworth Financial

Tim Owens Vice President of Investor Relations
Thomas McInerney President and Chief Executive Officer
Daniel Sheehan Chief Financial Officer and Chief Investment Officer
Rohit Gupta Chief Executive Officer, Enact
Don Espey Shah Capital Management, Inc
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Genworth Financial's Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Lauren, and I will be your coordinator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

We will facilitate a question and answer session towards the end of today’s conference.

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. now Vice turn President would to presentation I Owens, Tim of Instructions] like the to over [Operator Investor Relations. Mr. proceed. may you Owens,

Tim Owens

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Thomas McInerney

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Daniel Sheehan

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Don Espey

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Thomas McInerney

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Don Espey

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Thomas McInerney

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Daniel Sheehan

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Rohit Gupta

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Don Espey

Thanks Take all. Okay. care.

Thomas McInerney

Thanks Don.


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Thomas McInerney

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