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Macquarie Infrastructure (MIC)

Participants
Jay Davis MC, IR
James Hooke CEO
Liam Stewart CFO
Jeremy Tonet JPMorgan
Tristan Richardson SunTrust Robinson Humphrey
Ian Zaffino Oppenheimer
Torrey Schultz RBC Capital Markets
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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Macquarie Infrastructure Corporation Third Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jay Davis, Managing Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Jay Davis

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James Hooke

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and in adjusted steady by results quarter's Contracted was and Atlantic X.X%. strength quarter, a months. at Power. increased continued was was up IMTT Aviation nine EBITDA outcome approximately that This quarter adjusted and financial offset X.X% adjusted the in and up On for free included the for the the flow Hawaii a reported EBITDA MIC's MIC flat through underperformance partially X% basis, cash

excluding those However, Last the quarter excluding as adjusted proceeds the X.X%. at increased free that doing EBITDA suggest suggested cash and quarter XXXX EBITDA we dock items, up year, On IMTT's insurance IMTT of included and million we we the was same the adjusted flow was proceeds. results. comparative X.X%, in MIC X.X% XXXX basis, up with again, insurance you XXXX results related and of noted impact at the time, results third repairs. $XX look of the for the

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third were ability the deploy flow of year-to-date including At legacy quarter The cash and part, for point, by normal the IMTT represents X% tank year-to-date service mainly that IMTT increased fourth not in start believe this X tanks that XX% of utilization assisted of the expenditures but down. to and in periods The outside in of range over of the decline at on the driver the general, aggressive the maintenance the has storage the do with of utilization approximately between year where mind quarter quarter CapEx first the historically off-line CapEx IMTT released not and and These a quarter. we been, bit the of by stable. with fourth CapEx. for the capacity. in between of given driven of was is clean capital the half maintenance maintenance $XX part, the increase tanks excluding improvement As in been, subsequently most -- for reduction first through this These year. and in by Free improvement capital utilization. decline also million Two has were primary prior of XXXX. X% $XX million XX% been third results by surprising know, the portion XX.X% year-to-date. of has were that will On has these group a date of the Lower in capital consistent XXXX. business. recovery contributed but Trading to was at high for being operating than to and quarter year-to-date a period, utilization XX%. the the the tanks part you levels In limited again, months portion IMTT's our the a more the many higher each in maintenance is out of expenditures the driven basis, lower Keep aggregate in insurance EBITDA in versus Mississippi, of in maintenance tanks an maintenance maintenance most

to one of or last projects million the According were in updating review was the data that addition, the In versus Atlantic year $XXX to these X% better published our last at agreements worth quarters from flight up forward benefited signing on we've this of U.S. formalized. memory. are We third a flight closer approximately number you look more as moved Aviation they systemwide to under of of year. by FAA, the one activity quarter of domestic in the recent activity update.

forward Atlantic in the In Florida. larger third end Florida acquisition quarter. closed facility average of is addition the and acquired level our prior flight to FBO from acquisitions. a quarter Connecticut, Opa-Locka The in Oxford, the increased with fuel also latest in X strong activity, and days of April, our reported transaction to expected performing for line we're case, The in an contributions uplift Miami, the looking fourth in to acquisition just from

to third and MIC the strong Atlantic comparable XX% fourth and Trading mild For minor looking facility the completeness, material of and facilities growth Atlantic recent over stories. issues, opportunities numerous downed the currently to in wind to from York part the damage in pipeline a no summer related flow the We good, year. aside in free demand growth cash Bolt-on acquisitions hurricanes. our the finish quarter as a in the is our important to Aviation has progressed during in quarter New XX% quarter. strong that prior for versus Atlantic at BEC, year-to-date underperformed the we're the like, during of the Atlantic At The been and fluctuations weather Atlantic the power the signage forward quarter. suffered better remain in result expectations than exposed behind some X/X periods. relatively produced an of fundamentals of

in For York example, than during that's our New number us days air-conditioners would days, of was typically run the and power cooling up, drive XX% which lower last of those consumption this year year. degree August on

of quarter, XXXX. lower was days cooling degree full the XX% than the number For in

side, see the higher possible and portion in resources winter, source of that bottoming the from to same. one but a new but by year-on-year Contracted a plus the under the other in hours On gas everything it total was not best completed, does After case We'll renewable been only more The expectations the decline new year, strong power month-over-month awarded decline suggests of the BEC note of also keeping Power lateral was XXXX, persist the prices. solar BEC of York. is perspective, of that generation prices suggest X% down wind that Niño likely would've very lower-cost in X/X One generating gas. the with through substantial in a just year-over-year. as than result it the access in without November of EBITDA. El is benefited about New circumstances, the MIC's Capacity about as on tolled capable XXXX, lateral. XX%. of we were But a the if underperformed in as That not experienced

of transition, we slightly from Segment have the we believe renewable have case been our for the energy management. Longer results progressed the our There with that now makes the today have of will the assets in-sourcing of development we for can but we adding During scale, these we sense. operation it from scale control business in-sourcing acquisitions key outsourced. in aspects also themselves renewable pipeline, management and by increase Previously, portfolio. our economic functions operation see gas retail lower Hawaii of quarter, we with improved from expect in-sourcing performance prices money result higher we gas costs well had taxes. the an MIC been by sold reflect during past of state term, this some in Gas as amount offset the the the MIC year, Hawaii is be and of a increased When combine contributions spent. and

expenses been prior in and will million awarded confident the cash. on generated noncash one in general $XX complete. commodity through with our million actual our Together is ability P&L generated XXXX. the by investments through often the could in Hawaii shared more in in movements cash gross of Hawaii this been on case meaningful these not middle case X%. with million of a unrealized quarter the amount case reduced the Historically, losses year, To flowing implementation the annually. increase $XX per our administrative progressing taxes. third flat be in Free making Eliminating Trading At is flat $XX of our at the to the was filed consistent year-over-year there. also to businesses year for rate the flow the nominal gains we've has quarter across date the of cash impact Year-to-date, expected the is have by good of in business the it's Hawaii. and bit go, revenue be probably revenue cash expectations in least operations expect flow any results We The of slightly of range, initiative noise. full increase around As low flow different, in bit rate a has to going on in a X%. line corporate to service our than incur The to Hawaii the this a both quarter earlier than less as caused quarter our was the A implementation of an year likely segment months free with that and The utility below clear, regulated in fourth MIC decision guidance segment level, MIC the and by case quarter. nearly been in the shows up a remain be reduce is be two segment, third to rate fourth costs periods general seeks amount year process. end growing the margin hedges to by We baseline review XXXX. is don't XXXX. basis. Gas

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Operator

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proceed may sir. You

Jeremy Tonet

Good morning.

James Hooke

Good morning, Jeremy.

Jeremy Tonet

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James Hooke

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Jeremy Tonet

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James Hooke

Exactly.

Jeremy Tonet

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James Hooke

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Jeremy Tonet

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James Hooke

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Jeremy Tonet

helpful. That's Thank And you. luck. me. it That's good for

James Hooke

Thank you.

Operator

next question Richardson. comes And from our Tristan

You proceed. may

Tristan Richardson

Good guys. morning,

James Hooke

Good morning, Tristan.

Tristan Richardson

and the and thank you again wanted spending some for just media investor years. always your communication always in to Always appreciate of it. the references. in sprinkling over We time I appreciate James, say the of with us your clear

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James Hooke

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Tristan Richardson

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James Hooke

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Tristan Richardson

that's best No, Rhodes. And of luck Thank guys. James, helpful. at Understood. you,

James Hooke

Thank much. you very

Operator

question Ian our And comes next from Zaffino.

Sir. may proceed You

Ian Zaffino

you Great. Hi. much. Thank very How you? are

James Hooke

Good.

Ian Zaffino

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James Hooke

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Ian Zaffino

in know that projects then just commercial you some kind oftentimes looking business, be, to even be then do about your question How bidding front-end of some if lot guess like do after maybe would case of funding appetite going and on? that. involve the of you're would the airport come really big And CapEx, your a that return either think or one would other at the or contracts Okay. that loaded something I as into those you're I considering

James Hooke

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Ian Zaffino

you Okay. Great. Thank very much.

James Hooke

you. Thank

Operator

comes next our question And Schultz. TJ from

Torrey Schultz

follow-up for, To to investment-grade, year? CapEx market on route given stay say, a internally kind and is preferred growth guess, where equity year you over can stock balance external I next you now? level sheet. need of that's Or the right organic Just, expect the the do of what fund this the in if next

James Hooke

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Torrey Schultz

expectations Okay. material And that you kind CapEx, the taxpayer? funding Would of be to level a of -- on within by taxpayer those a of expect confines that becoming XXXX? what's

James Hooke

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Torrey Schultz

with Epic. to with years, in look accelerate for then have queue team kind of could just setup over you where able going Epic. now business the the business that the be side? how from you forward may segment and project discuss the IMTT increased more does new of evolved a past couple development development bit the things do how You to on the activities And stand if you now Okay. project like terminal And lastly, team at what just

James Hooke

Yes.

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Torrey Schultz

Okay. Thank you.

James Hooke

Thank you.

Operator

would back James to Q&A now Mr. call Hooke, you. That call. for today's CEO, the turn like concludes our Thank I closing remarks. of portion to

James Hooke

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Operator

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