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Ternium (TX)

Participants
Sebastian Marti Investor Relations and Compliance Director
Maximo Vedoya Chief Executive Officer
Pablo Brizzio Chief Financial Officer
Jonathan Brandt HSBC
Thiago Lofiego Bradesco BBI
Thiago Ojea Goldman Sachs
Carlos De Alba Morgan Stanley
Gabriel Galvao Credit Suisse
Rodolfo Angele J.P. Morgan
Alex Hacking Citi
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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to Ternium Third Quarter 2020 Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to hand the conference over to Sebastian Marti. you. Thank ahead. go Please

Sebastian Marti

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Maximo Vedoya

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Pablo Brizzio

Maximo, and good Thanks, everybody. morning to

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Operator

Brandt first comes the HSBC. Instructions] [Operator with question Our of Jonathan from line

Jonathan Brandt

to lower US? roll How should what Maximo, of outlook steel be my steel is prices just, look leverage, to say the see prices, times, second that's of end prices, wanted into is you the quickly maybe much should the sort and of that I et range. cetera? it's fourth if And sort your guess, your X.X third America quarter the historical North both happening sort today first the steel Pablo in the on the in and given question, ask And then at everything I uncertainty happens you of how at just will much in about captured quarter? of that that quarter first and we how

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Maximo Vedoya

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Pablo Brizzio

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the quarter. expecting in to more level that than fourth CapEx the in are We of the

year. $XXX level We around of that originally the said for to are we expecting the reach million CapEx of

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Maximo Vedoya

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months We are finishing about of six, that investment seven, program. eight

of looking that continue opportunities to -- growing that now using are see to we good are we and into turn so, And cash. continue that they

to has NAFTA construction of mention or American think are of can increase. optimistic that I region, the their or North think we I three, Mexico the we Mexico, part field very one region is

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think hope answer -- this was but I the Jon and your. full question So I I sorry, of to wrong,

Jonathan Brandt

mean, I potential follow-up, it's to as for you would forward growth? for path -- Just the further see M&A

Maximo Vedoya

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Operator

Our is next BBI. with Thiago Bradesco Lofiego question from

Thiago Lofiego

on market, is the election impact there? steel session on and that… I'll on Maximo, of view steel in increase do volume question, Argentina your take here. is market is best here point? the scenario XXXX Do second the And the the American your risk I'll what What and how at think then sustainable North a do the think you this for you US outlook the

Maximo Vedoya

be me in to no… You're addition, asking

Thiago Lofiego

changes in here what make section think It's scenario? Do your do more specific. see happen the Biden you think see in USMCA? XXX? the gradually question Do government Biden my views. you a wins, always So from just do if to recent good withdrawing any would But you you to hear

Maximo Vedoya

Argentina. I Argentina. First, any it's to mean, let try make projections demand to today me about of very the difficult in talk

a economic are time As and there I it's exchange problem reforms Argentina, mean reforms. do going is challenge said not with it in clearly to Argentina be before, need I is for quarter, those need happening to macro rate. some But good. what

in in of I in I'm volatile going XXXX we And scenario going high. going It's is think Argentina. capability saying so to be to what continue today. any a see not are to happen to very And

on operate So our Argentina. cautious again, what we on we very how is are in stance

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Thiago Lofiego

say you, in are What are -- but the we doesn't here, there outlook improve, potential. a here, worse, I'm are resiliency like what downside worst-case sorry the to more here. more of we see the answer gets factors if still more scenario see resilient we're think that it will in interrupt to would actually, the in Argentina factors going a think that and Argentina, be more you I

Maximo Vedoya

not happen. I'm mean, to I going saying is this

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So don't be I of lot changes. think to there's a going

on the both going try in manufacturing stronger the candidates think contrary, are to region. I to make

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Operator

Our next question is from Thiago Ojea with Goldman Sachs.

Thiago Ojea

my to sharp first on would price, question, to think me. allow the really I I saw Maximo like few as go price past US back the We recovery weeks. a in

in North past that years a investments in in new How see few would investments now in of the I Chinese few, is years announcements sustainable, was these them I the of which this first compared like pickup including hold. three the that before. some America, of are unseen you you. next new few But the my in this just a competitive lag two, is, is I do understand related couple was We price How Mexico. years. to going West to landscape short-term coming think accommodating the is level. we on through think there price, lower North the and next include steel in second And this view say, a think your question market. do question. a you What US America? should price should Thank about my lot first think It for saw a my of forward? seems question is I is

Maximo Vedoya

steel. than this see did going said, that was by our in to thought the demand net I the to last was grow mean, steel as the I more China mean, think in years the the net of China, months, the usually, it research is is year. we depends importer. a four coming on last this two saw months happen four I and a US mean increase price up. Brazil, clearly, picking next the And picking last a than import prices, months, countries. of huge COVID a exposure Europe has increase be Latin the I new in -- but I weeks last is XX is honest. up And China for increased last up. prices I clearly in again, is export. X% with mean, you we in or demand up, in And it couple we in of going but steeper going to it's America, Brazil is what all is picking demand. In in what

of US I next several where on quarters, in for and going think But the depend So will see an don't it again will today. the utilization. and continue the prices environment the down US, I rationality it the producer regarding capacity

healthy the I quarters. think next that level in prices should remain for

don’t I if I think Thiago, opinion. first my answered that's I know the question there.

Thiago Ojea

You did.

you evolve capacity years? think next utilization now So I product will landscape the in few new given How do current competitive and the think announcements. what I'm curious this to know, the

Maximo Vedoya

capacity I are increase mean, in numbers. in two mean, in is clearly, how kilograms US, than on in the the think the in and you both in it's see consumption in less power Mexico or the -- they more consumption years the And is going if I basically part the to things, consumption. Mexico, of that grow. it's I in of think the Mexico it's than in you you I XXX. XXX two China, bit more it's habitant, little make US, but power couple concerning first our next new there investments going of new consumption grow of I mean, I is it's this think to all clearly, So of mean doing, coming these is the I capacity US. to depends the if XXX. XXX, see per a It in countries,

Korea, XXX. see If you it's

manufacturers, If than you the see it's more with Japan XXX. all

this back for sure. some region. has consumption the So That's to bring that of to

going So consumption to is grow.

going find of are in imports amount The I is Mexico. second imports. huge there's a to that thing we mean,

is so or to of new capacity imports. this going And part to change replace this

as thing US of of and higher competitive And are producers. are other compete capacity is with US some it's not going for to third the producers there sure, The capacity cost. some this older to that

am And most focus a others is and sense. of that to course, are clearly see that's the I not you the in competitive region. of one today. mean, doing be the so fourth, in competitive in the region, are the in our facilities huge as we increase I than numbers the working And seeing we are our more

able in are we advantage take new again, arousing. so increase And but compete capacity with to this very to that the is of consumption,

Thiago Ojea

to additional you years, couple would any and is ask, in you projection? credible figure come on that Mexico US? both I in next of capacity what have of you consider just size your that the online work the Do

Maximo Vedoya

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Thiago Ojea

My that is on US? consider and will that, in new will this capacity for coming be you Mexico CapEx online, go [Technical in Difficulty] added through is sure, really like question really what that

Maximo Vedoya

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Operator

Carlos Our from De Stanley. Morgan with is next question Alba

Carlos De Alba

Maximo fourth on will or realize Mexico to mean in little the outlook. least terms But little you Maximo bit and that of are seeing revenue I in increase, at into Argentinian can Pablo, you contracts. or And quarter quarter prices more the in mentioned maybe just please first that in you and second prices quarter more the will then first likely the first and elaborate what anything could continue increase prices comment will you could of the a continue cost, add question. to the maybe So lag I bit ton probably on just a quarter? the on have per perhaps a in you volumes you

Pablo Brizzio

question. this take me Let

need things Clearly, second how take -- question. as the but see in me that remarks, make take the pandemic change consideration, caveat a is there Let things do not Maximo if your can answering first need initial we into we into during we other to a if into before consideration. the to evolves region. wave and Clearly, explained

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the to we So quarter outlook. with coming a see continue positive

not now seeing price even to fourth are are the in we of the the XXX% right increase of We numbers quarter. see reflected that going

see be will any So level some of Maximo there Maximo as increase is, staying at the we yet, also we year. price view of quarter first do reflect the see -- will price the in that

to, that could that the or the with So believe Argentina in outcome a sustained something enter we going fourth be sustained next the be are that we -- volumes with year. in is outlook we that said quarter the for will relationship into transaction to

is for the which changes all we year. a one-time also should outlook projections, the clearly of we make we the second to quarter for Argentina the but mentioned, in The a these that rational of fourth could have and volatility line make in quarter situation with what expecting all, in Maximo volume, in the are caveat is need

Carlos De Alba

sorry, Pablo, you that. And for thank

if wondering you're price there… seeing Just that

Maximo Vedoya

clearly, it's think not the I mean, I amid caveat, over. third So pandemic. I Carlos, mean, I said,

so, the economy. come if make learned to to useful governments a I going to don't harm that not it it's They recession, I are some they very lot won't. and back think know And of

a are So of our picking possibility Difficulty]… because cases and I think in countries [Technical some it up

Carlos De Alba

Pablo. prices, in see do No, Argentina? on prices just How you

Pablo Brizzio

follow see usual Argentina We as to international as price prices. international continue -- volatility with with price less in

the much in prices in So see we region. don't changes

us, there sustain if the foreign some is a will in rate, we are this markets. level as our impact exchange the usually course, run changes currently in but able seeing to in as we will be Of happens pricing short

Carlos De Alba

you you be hot if question then updates could is that and line production can bit Mexico, incremental -- in about And which then, will coil a you talk project, And is any is but a timing to do roll that of you my And that number you little from or more little on have to bit second XXXX whole said I you the of next range of timing much -- great. expect more on maybe CapEx, line next there the the restart you the provide. year how any other refine production can expect guess, could year? have that there ballpark

Maximo Vedoya

I back around XXXX. the I as number as CapEx, It's again. Carlos, quite -- am $XXX same also mean, going XXXX, it's XXXX be to million.

long I very July next mill that the mill -- equipments those coil, I are Hot-strip number a date and hot-strip the in -- the July we mean Remember for seeing are period. Pesqueria, is that's so capex. but are there mean, of difficult, ramp-up starting as these year. we is first big So

to that mill, the the think effect start hot-strip by year. the I seeing going the of end we're So of

Operator

is question Credit with Galvao from Gabriel Next Suisse.

Your open. line is

Gabriel Galvao

question part been and So plan would you domestic hikes mentioned domestic third-party your witnessing the of be sales to your my in so first also to export regarding market. that several market the we shift price have Brazil, from the is

us could the how question exports actually So Brazil? a between second in on color profitability some and maybe provide on sales dividends. would domestic you is the be my So follow-up relative

Thank remember once year, that suspended said So for pay since case you a dividends the if is only remain would you this dividends usually so here? correctly, you. XXXX I

Maximo Vedoya

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Pablo Brizzio

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Maximo Vedoya

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Gabriel Galvao

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Maximo Vedoya

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Operator

next Angele question Rodolfo Morgan. J.P. Our from with is

line Your is open.

Rodolfo De Angele

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range when bring to you EBITDA that you operation. up per can will fully your comment my question ton is, of its Pesqueria to the on So additional ramped

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Pablo Brizzio

the start the will on Okay, then if with let's I want answer complete you and answer.

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doing. are that imports is one fee we of first substitution The

of facility, we So are the we today. production in with substitute will that hot-rolled new imports doing

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done In already fact that. we have

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but my that some have have levels know to that the which ones do I are to something that, if that. higher quarter than add want we comment. you initial we that We so to is Maximo, to work. they is with And don't everything sustain

Maximo Vedoya

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So is to increase as Pablo said. this with profitability again our our intention

Rodolfo De Angele

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Pablo Brizzio

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year, quarter let had this this me correct XX.X% a we EBITDA you the that So margin. number said,

So, for number following quarter. I the a targeting am higher

huge all of opportunity before. level in explained this margin increase expectation that of are say in will XX%, to So that able we flow level because will Maximo for the and them higher it's also of a could be sustaining for be generation that facility you us trying the for. to cash we all EBITDA very not things something new investment, free But all, are margin the these us we the to we but only for and of in difficult in move than generation, is expecting unveil which -- lot to

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Operator

Alex Our with is next question Hacking Citi. from

Your line is open.

Alex Hacking

a just guess, quick for Pablo. I one

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Pablo Brizzio

have relationship to in that we some Argentina, in were remember devaluation inflation things There still we have country. in the Argentina,

total aspect, you increase a of the tends company. when number bit to So little this have the it

denominated exactly increased XX% if because we though which the continue is cost, as the course, in you of total just devaluation Of those then are that reduced. that impact of is around calculate attempts cost clearly, portion is to peso, environment, that be see this of tends the to

better a have margin you respect. So that on

you of these before end the quarter. moment So have of utilization that prevailing inventory have at the evaluating the that things exchange rate when the you have the as or you

the very, this, margins very some So Argentina But there Argentina are clearly, to accommodate of But the to are tends levels. on Ternium good. go and normalized of clearly, high. these things was of the Ternium performance to also more the performance

Alex Hacking

capacity -- kind assuming a I excess for about all talked you product. that kind had for there to And processing one is you is like Pesqueria was kind that of additional then, you as going the you can Thanks. it utilizing, way gal now, I there of be could that were there? quantify didn't be just that I way around selling just of guess value-added you answer one. realize In excess hot-rolled, your have quick value-added how can Rodolfo sitting you a paints you some much to capacity

Pablo Brizzio

investment to they not Pesqueria full galvanized and mill almost mention What only that the hot-rolling line that was at total new running is new painting also they are was in line are the and up and the I the trying but capacity. working already

to there not we have and facility it's So up waiting just that for or spare the running. capacity be new

these this -- capacity that the last end capex last at year or the into initial of of the -- part last of that of enter have beginning year. and have we year was we this at So

So have that up and after running. our -- It's capacity this waiting we utilizing facilities. be the they to ramp-up not are we are available period, for

Alex Hacking

got it. I Okay, I misunderstood.

capacity effectively new just So is hot-rolled obviously… capacity, going right, be the with to

Maximo Vedoya

to remember December. new capacity painting But, -- I six hot-rolled. add the the value-add. in is started potential -- Future and galvanized the produce think ago to mean it's line I I Alex, months

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Operator

closing to Maximo for any over call this back gentlemen, remarks. the and now concludes period. I'll Ladies turn Q&A the

Maximo Vedoya

you. Thank

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