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2U (TWOU)

Participants
Ed Goodwin Vice President-Investor Relations
Christopher Chip Paucek Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer
Cathy Graham Chief Financial Officer
Sarah Hindlian Macquarie
Monika Garg KeyBanc
Michael Tarkan Compass Point
Jeff Meuler Baird
Corey Greendale First Analysis
Jeff Silber BMO
Tom Singlehurst Citi
Tyler Page Oppenheimer
Chris Howe Barrington Research
Rishi Jaluria DA Davidson
Ryan MacDonald Needham & Company
Peter Appert Piper Jaffray
George Tong Goldman Sachs
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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the 2U 2018 Third Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference, Mr. of President Vice Goodwin, Investor Relations. Ed

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Ed Goodwin

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Christopher Chip Paucek

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Cathy Graham

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million, improvement earnings measures, by and quarter course Turning $X.X Year-over-year At net graduate we’ve in by to loss generated net XX.X in our both loss million points. third measures. short corresponding improved and program in our margin increased earnings $X.X all percentage the our and year-over-year segments. of

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Christopher Chip Paucek

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Operator

from comes you. [Operator Thank with question Instructions] Sarah Our Macquarie. first Hindlian

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Sarah Hindlian

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Christopher Chip Paucek

Sarah. problem, No

the say, and So very is portfolio overall really I would diversified. strong it’s

the of cohort strong with launched of really one ways surprised best that certainly us. a is and XXXX ever in bunch the So we’ve some programs had

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balanced it’s a portfolio. So, pretty

can of portfolio the we’re we So we the year can pretty given covered like for of see some kind the is, of the this building here. forecast. excited and we programs, quite of sort us handle mentioned feel And we’re it a overall makes next challenges that older that proud what growth and we at got looking into do about we’re fact

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it’s pretty based. So broad

Sarah Hindlian

All I That’s it. helpful. right. very appreciate Terrific.

Operator

Thank you.

comes next with Garg Monika Our question from KeyBanc.

Your line is open.

Monika Garg

taking a changes on very guess surprising given and I first to my these Chip, Deans these trying who understand have for have successful thanks the at been the two I’m new Hi, that make UNC. USC is to looking are I question programs, to question. what programs?

Christopher Chip Paucek

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whether plenty the has and the search. try the a that been change they currently, quite challenges, people midst this isn’t Dean be past, to are Interim they we’ve situations case, when Work, big negative. times seen Dean there in In leadership for make – we’ve change USC leadership there and of a pretty also actually in leadership Company. we So positive understand be where sure change an there’s particular had We’ve of Social seen are

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get it’s into say detail really it about. those two for programs we appropriate of of with given strongly So, in would feel at I is relationship investors. the to public very strength sort the the more What that end, the not overall from us top is, particular tricky –

Monika Garg

short All right, much. is guidance, XXXX you the so for thanks. growth you assuming in Thank of And what then, courses you Cathy, it?

Cathy Graham

don’t give segment know, that But color guidance we’ve both – some we’ve made segments you So, a we think to given periods. as prior on around I in tend basis. commentary

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Monika Garg

you it. Got much. so Thank

Operator

you. Thank

Michael comes Tarkan Compass question next from with Point. Our

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Michael Tarkan

Thank you.

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Christopher Chip Paucek

we no, first on marketing haven’t we different – question, seen materially the So, expenses. any

our there of us says for options a current candidly at high think to ratio for quality should where it profitable bit And there’s key QX too – that’s remember now. all, level. their there I we are sort right have We invested enrollments. quality is quality drive for of and the of X.XX LTR TCA quite more

it’s any about finding not the So, right that’s just finding in tricky. other and words, about student it’s student,

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these in a and we of program programs, working the particular very work on types that So, two just there to partner you’re to have with dealing with situations. our is our be do partner side, these turnaround good during short a reasonable things specific

Michael Tarkan

That’s helpful. you. Thank

billion hitting over rate in – about a over talked $X question you run years. a three little Second is,

revenue in is you unclear, that to that XXXX Just – referring are annual forecast?

Cathy Graham

by end of of off the about years three talking We’re the XXXX.

by really the the hitting we’re certainly, is timeframe of So discussing. run time the end you’re the the XXXX pick rate

Michael Tarkan

much. Thank you very

Operator

you. Thank

comes Baird. with next from question Meuler Jeff Our

is open. Your line

Jeff Meuler

I and would from I margin question. for just spend marketing on the and taking the guidance, programs the just other unit for UNC question on guess Yes, economic confidence thank the I would guess you think some absolute guess there, the USC I of reiterated to that market the the redirected be programs.

of So, on is good on can there a not good I but and why missing you program a behind just more just understand I more unit launches Thanks. redirect further guess more where I unit investing of incrementally what economics, aggressively spending and say economics? seeing for anything marketing am you’re

Cathy Graham

is there out actually that as be a some enrollments So, don’t programs will where high. spend those that of of we redirect of anticipate

enrollment will any in to the any or that talking do redirected particularly given about, there acquisition, half opportunities enrollment in redirect so we’re the spend, beyond addition and the that profitable expectations still are schools. first dollars XXXX additional do However, are to behavior we by of

Christopher Chip Paucek

mirror, us and in generation what we and add as guess the could out, the should particular point of the it’s in to me period have today, margin had it’s step have we that, spend, CEO was tried – than course, seen we clear deployed in launches would ever really had ever more that the to than put program rearview we I but up step we time that I good backseat. during clear as and before, just to And is, more done to up remember had that in

Jeff Meuler

the macroeconomic all? terms in if then impact seeing sensitivity labor of market, in quality a from what the tight pipeline and And – wondering student are on what just you’re that’s Okay. any perspective, the at with you. – Thank seeing student I’m having you an quality if of

Christopher Chip Paucek

say have pretty be MBA some prepared So, real not think bring may in thought what counter-cyclical, I we would in trivial there historically We the up been impact because remarks it it programs case, particular is, broadly. story. more was our in we didn’t that of

during during that’s I alive during everyone situation at don’t period economic doing think in interestingly economic all least on potentially we’ve attending and economy that what regardless, any want are worst But we’re bodes under low of pretty the are overall, – here, students a Without history, very great more that UCL unemployment. so is bullish some campus to was focus it. campus anyone didn’t our the well time question we call, because So, And with the programs was the existed a attending in programs for when fewer MBA worse they MBA. period on our UK., international in pressure the than are enrollments XXXX.

students the take focus on we is be the trend was time student we we’ll a is of. – that over much definitely we think are So, really that younger, didn’t MBA and pipeline too think the It that of a because portfolio, getting clear options that advantage coming into that didn’t story. able bit overall one to

Jeff Meuler

Peter Appert have that alive time, thanks but friend My might been taking the for questions. at

Operator

Thank you.

comes question Corey Analysis. with next First Our from Greendale

Your line is open.

Corey Greendale

Hey, good afternoon.

and DGP to know XXXX So, to should – rate said that expect ranges we like for I growth, be past is that be or relied you want not had XXXX, you but not do specific just real from past still I growth anymore first question, you the you XXXX. had today, just in clarify, expected that for about stand where specific you’re guidance, I want giving clear I talked in XX% – XX% to achievable? on the think

Cathy Graham

graduate seen growth our to segment, short that obviously stepping XXXX – be that. for will say what it are would I XXXX that relative we I look think like rate back, Corey, given So, remains for program guidance the to

at this we’re prepared further to point not So, make comments.

Christopher Chip Paucek

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can you we So, to trying what now. give we’re

Corey Greendale

short-term, can say talk you And Is you is assume. development, I about of some capitalized, spend two amount one I Cathy anything longer-term. as the in in changes questions, XXXX one anything line I increased on free had about then understand. And bottom that short-term, how or that cash there about program flow?

Cathy Graham

that cap are either change side. content the expect going materially to So, or rates on the we don’t our technology development

no you don’t XXXX. should those think material a on material I a So, that cash that assume use change – impact has our have for

Corey Greendale

the the Actually appreciate % confidence. And longer Okay. plus then that Chip, XX term. five-year

zero is year year of Just clear, that? or one be to XXXX

Cathy Graham

that. the year zero of And go three on for it’s back $X years… XXXX million, years is of to of sort Cory, for years three to your that, XXXX – end just off so five

Christopher Chip Paucek

He was asking XX%. for

Cathy Graham

years. five XX%,

Christopher Chip Paucek

Five years.

Corey Greendale

Yes.

Cathy Graham

off end of XXXX. to Yes,

terms that we’re want current about that nothing in I has model. way self-sustaining margins any – on to XXXX of reiterate we’re or of about in additional fully in terms not talking in our that believe funded business are us We through what investment

Corey Greendale

and thanks That from that company Chip match investor public as actually answered second for about clear of my a appreciate suitability, tell detail. so statement the a it, ever CEO us terms in and question, heard I

Operator

Thank you.

Jeff with question comes BMO. Silber Our next from

open. is line Your

Jeff Silber

in Thanks you’ve any thing the marketing Is doing much. so the spend, investments comments up to been this spend a really type back to of color Wanted appreciated. year. about next is beforehand, of same some ramping different the circle be marketing would added

Christopher Chip Paucek

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continue super to. we that quite large programs of to down it the a really strong. out portfolio dollars the getting a into marketing bunch put of but more of should they is had portfolio have come and really having And and overall, gate is be this is evolve, comes So, story we just what overall

So this was LTR QX TCA X.XX%. period current

Jeff Silber

to margins that And over goal. back and kind shifting I Okay. comment the again $X of is billion that period? organic to want expanding then Thanks. would the long-term to confirm, we about just expect start

Cathy Graham

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Christopher Chip Paucek

in now Right. for we’re business, the year. thing I about mean, course we’ve now – over a course the business the short short

clients adopting as still we’re a so are lot pull, it an early are as a fully to our just point hoped. And levers of at share. that where it’s We there’s integrating; we days early quickly so clearly of as example, –

the that entire So pretty across excited means about for growth what portfolio.

Cathy Graham

I… And

Jeff Silber

ahead. I’m sorry. Go

Cathy Graham

get acceleration that not – in does between for think sort but I moment, position where of takes new as balance weight takes I we in was a growth said we we margins, don’t about more toward question and are our as at a little point just to That existing, precedence. this need growth. believe programs growth – going this be mean to second is your a at okay, that important, marketing very and can decisions margin I until we

Jeff Silber

Okay, enough. much. Thanks so fair

Operator

Thank you.

from comes Citi. next Singlehurst Our question Tom with

is line open. Your

Tom Singlehurst

here I Tom Citigroup. It’s Okay, good have okay. evening. it’s from a if questions,

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Christopher Chip Paucek

Sure. Thanks, Tom.

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remind I’ve entirely will second Cathy forgotten point, The and now me.

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Cathy Graham

do approach second marketing about within. The deploying how was thinking one we

Christopher Chip Paucek

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are reminded a Dean more one the ago that not it’s relationships like it of programs those time long – of a that long I would a these say me feel and So, bit does marriage.

the faculty chair for those that different the – overall do program – in it. been continue investor revenue many one an there we where the program past impact said tracks that showed left and for started could for had the right about have And three things circumstances Georgetown’s two to for And some we that Georgetown questions went had year-on-year. financials in we time example they is, the of of is separate again you of and somebody other stopped hired that moment way. program to doesn’t a tracks those as up the we revenue and take us a periods cohorts and So, in had and time, our running changes marketplace, declined four running with an have look, mean and it in then by

story. kind is thing a happens. long that This So, of

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Tom Singlehurst

may to Okay. One if I Cathy. follow-up,

Christopher Chip Paucek

for late there. out you It’s

Tom Singlehurst

handle predictability to – and predict three that the worth works it trying still are I a of the on that short saying know, confident you courses of two, able sort much know, feel you but so point I The on you’re it and of to know, get you how predictability being the a past get more of it. down? on. in question made quarters I Do business, it’s to was

Cathy Graham

the we’re feel as are quarter along, So, think and tend course. portfolios we that of I one a expand bit or size we anyone as any program further changes mute particularly every along, they portfolio, little – are certainly further we the to wonderful any in

that the about it graduate are lot vastly of quicker, program in performance course course change are different out than the business. there business a you can lot a Well, also more a lot However, find short quickly. dynamics

the As isn’t for this more mainstream for example, and course several a a demand. all years, kind of in has same course becomes topic hot quarters sudden a for been – or several that of

are we long that haven’t courses of yet. out be number for see run process figuring because been in So, a many these us pattern still of to the of to enough able for things those

account, that but So, try certainly when lot and it we think than that variability I a we believe is company. we was it, still it course in have understand the acquired and lot – and more we is more we a the short when talk take business we the predictability better about into

Tom Singlehurst

you. Thank

Operator

Thank you. with Zelnick And Brad Suisse. our Credit next question comes from

open. Your line is

Unidentified Analyst

efficiencies any surrounding MPVs, give you changes it’s marketing guys anything on guys, margins, for there? in any of Hi changed Can you on see has just focused on [ph] long-term I long-term the – Bob you of Brad. opportunity. can guys the thinking us idea

Christopher Chip Paucek

No, we very it. feel still feel good about

Unidentified Analyst

And more driving changes and investments XXXX is more is any that that launches? just or program or into

Christopher Chip Paucek

just more and it’s Yes, a of launches lot coming.

Unidentified Analyst

That’s helpful. Thank you.

Operator

you. Thank

Schwartz next Oppenheimer. from Brian comes with Our question

Your line is open.

Tyler Page

here. Thanks Brian. Hi, Tyler this taking on Page my for is for questions

from pipeline that little wanted short that? motion then dig their played competitors looking to compete there, about how courses great pipeline any on what kind they out, current your partner And and came as with whether see those the selling with competitive those the to you and wondering George two bit, never kind is of a Just into how to to and had Washington those partners and deals of deals announcements Yale. preferred or kind were really of your of

Christopher Chip Paucek

every they is deal, they’re all there I all every easy deal reasonably is are would is no of think I what say – complicated. course – with University

competition, of courses. are terms in certainly So, there short offering other people

on were based business And candidly outcomes record, and the compelling so which driving think for strong else I school, really partners anyone able to track probably to has enough – opportunities don’t both we we so. student our of are be those

Tyler Page

grasp of courses, terms courses in the you increasing you around have the new the on And DGPs? spend ramping do thanks. How then short up are for how short as investing are that, you there around marketing a you’re marketing well? spend Okay,

Cathy Graham

a So, there marketing operate the that would looking longer-term in just digital is on is at level as it though we do and program spend at in similar for that look – of business, you business effective.

be what business. different, I get spend be believe but mirror. very our look are of it pretty way we trying that metrics process we in going very, ultimately, arms will around level the proper So, the of much similar. to of But may to more to be a at The be is ought the

quite not but there expect be. yet, we will We’re do we

Tyler Page

you Thank Great. Okay. much. very

Operator

Thank you.

Our next question comes Barrington Alex Research. with Paris from

is open. Your line

Chris Howe

and Chip in Cathy. Paris. Chris for sitting is afternoon, Good This Howe Alex

How like to course Just an had TAM the is course the the initial where courses, regard received of acquisition? would new today discoveries the these on potential a second or questions few what single the in your asked others learnings moving the many are in questions you’ve you Thanks. course perhaps is for Stanford. a are partners how what’s of short are short and question versus forward economic short This at on following to forward? able up there comments and different thoughts kind you here. And my with to what this offerings? your moving this characterize And entree as about gather time way, moat on

Christopher Chip Paucek

a short where are on terms skills business hypotheses the in TAM short that billion, courses in we talking $XXX-ish course about could different of attainment. you’re the it’s given there is many play, big market, So, think somewhere

the real, opportunity So, great short have we we across is in we are courses they partners partners, the think suite of single for the we’re deployments right supplying have, focused course do programs. on interested the now

pretty and ecosystem it’s that. the expect So you deployed – across out effectively more it to and – should of XU see we’ve

Cathy Graham

that The I word creating will that we it key fact have you Let that across an the talked for, acquired them asking our is, adding provide moat that be. can part for was clients. that we the were long-term the we the discussed and think and do when that off that to product relationships GetSmarter me to we more our the health add our spectrum, mentioned that and the better adding a we clients we and additional this as moat relationships think just is to that about with of believe relationship our

Chris Howe

in Okay. regard And then other to about the question Stanford?

Christopher Chip Paucek

answered Yes, I it already.

Chris Howe

else Stanford how was shooting offering how many there partners the are – many That’s I that different there just seeing single and from with plays Okay. partner? the have. others at out learnings just out as at Yes, an initial far course how all it course as and

Christopher Chip Paucek

a that quite universities few might there’s Well, the we marketplace target. in

I will where in more portfolio, deploying across As focused now we’re see we opportunities you other mentioned, first. right deploy courses our short but

Chris Howe

Chip. you. Thank

Christopher Chip Paucek

No problem.

Operator

Thank you.

Rishi comes Our DA next Davidson. with Jaluria from question

is Your open. line

Rishi Jaluria

launched or idea if your at mature because Hey questions. that Chip, nicely my over still kind you wanted pretty due spending maybe on of primarily mid we of that underinvested to thanks you for the have of in in hindsight, just for you’ve what back follow lower level and with in for border know be long-term guys, taking marketing target the look marketing the I’ve is cohort done, relative the just four primarily XX%, new Are circle across that’s preview to years, it you’ve I programs margins in with to were the above the up a your DGPs happy been Cathy. then XX%s. end just

Cathy Graham

first take this actually So, I’ll one.

a to of level We’re – be being was sort whole, still you in there’s were under-investment phenomenon, the give about there see that portfolio that our our older not dollars would I new probably and was as programs that the margins you it as as where places I’m a can of cohort sure probably thought there invested. program think of it thinking sort

certainly our what because would have been. – above target So there

So, not we in be sort shorting phenomenon, sort portfolio to that of of one is we overall fact a thinking tend terms it any little of bit the an that area. were

Rishi Jaluria

it. Got Thanks.

my or XXXX, for just And the full sorry, I for was wrong? get XX% for notes margins bucket year did clarification, the that cohort a

Cathy Graham

right. No, our the mid-XX%, those, and be XX% is still that enrollment would as in or courses. so you north you XX% it know, target there’ll profitable had be you there have of to in think We that tell is acquisition

Rishi Jaluria

like from patterns Thanks. revenue QX to a quick declined just that then follow-up And kind of on okay. or is Thanks, right. more there? entirely that’s I housekeeping from know a to all it Yes, of there or QX. the Is GetSmarter is mean, else something looks GetSmarter. perspective. I sequentially international FX that related seasonal

Cathy Graham

than is more seasonal when courses the all, are of it anything courses is pattern – It else, matter a are that run.

Rishi Jaluria

you. Thank Great. Okay.

Operator

you. Thank

comes question Company. next & Ryan Our with from MacDonald Needham

is line Your open.

Ryan MacDonald

conceptual for lead the how programs could they that see thinking their whether more courses as I look opportunity, term? interesting online have if was on-campus areas it enhance a in area of short on Chip, Good graduate the course a at was And to don’t can first thought these are guess it’s some in potentially the longer areas or commentary think will in already. graduate announcements DGPs around there’s evening. really a question’s if it’s you that for an these where with very short I short enough the course, this program just and Chip demand color wondering give existing of you it’s about where two question. areas partners be these some I the generator you or if universities

Christopher Chip Paucek

GetSmarter it of all – the valuable at Management, that clear we sort words, what say, deploying School is obvious. said there think other are portfolio, working In Yale of good Yale school to different the Medicine, of with, I of we client now about I more So, as do that announcements, notable by would School each example, short becoming we combination is a strategically across both, and that’s at that we’re is what’s is strategically that this around. entirely an the it’s about today’s courses

working in have overlap like that more So, and between in makes a across at more that bay influence definitely above, so value a see we definitively some course we as Berkeley the keeps strategically both we and believe much all greater business that’s us of University, some you’ll the to DGP cases, then deeper, direct digs the short the cases, see us the – happening us you’ll like. XU at at over really the university, gives entire like is so we moat part what’s competition prop huge and the

certain someone a degree. lead-in we a way be full do to short and in Master’s a for that DGP cases, or the Now take go think will all courses

weren’t likely we of across people larger of So, pretty critical part so of short courses a the the small to converted prospects strategy, can from is the we getting past, bring converting student, the in we those prospect that. we people in do percentage think anyway percentage a portfolio

Ryan MacDonald

follow-up, Do Got the grad and online converting other but opportunity longer being just and more with that you to programs and do obviously in guess in of of acceleration it. in acceleration maybe also the an And a term partners prospective elsewhere online, I on that program launches we’ve is is vendors think programs. it’s more of a them particular able domestically, then broader the XXXX for given provide then just demand across and terms are the planned pool has seen universities? that think adoption degree with a students launching by beyond, the as market multiple XU broader you – clear the of what impact with that, broadly, clear there for

Christopher Chip Paucek

scale this like with places have is into yet I the we’re people do point, different of this the that across to there various see really opportunities. bunch And At of to dealing seen a the deployed be starting in of benefits portfolio. coming we business the funnel a prospects not that scale you’re in some potential for feel and think across opportunity

both like see student we and university partners be chances more our a university for XU. over comprehensive the the expect and from you time, to solution our to more options to So, more and should

Ryan MacDonald

you . much Thank very it. Got

Operator

Thank you.

Appert comes with Jaffray. question Piper next Our from Peter

Your open. is line

Peter Appert

Chip. Thanks,

then involved was in I to years three in this was I in as but just XXXX. business two but deny wasn’t First, high still like later, or that at Mueller I’d school least XXXX, in

Okay.

touch universities to it on cycles, even core both under interested enrollment maybe just to any numbers? selling have I’m graduate new Chip, So as comments client in relates or

Christopher Chip Paucek

student, would university or when Peter? definitely I cycle say to mean mean I you Yes, the to – it’s selling the

Peter Appert

things. mean Yes. both Well, mean I of interested in I’m the I both,

Christopher Chip Paucek

has I mean, university, it’s definitely changed. momentum There’s no question, never this. been like

year, the with and one, not booming missionary. have getting that’s it’s see full for XU starting a pretty and next shorter pipeline to – worked obviously as that the but and it’s day portfolio for exciting the asking and we’re So, universities is is not next for lot

of really it have proof. at data, we’re lot We good and a we’ve got

team so, is our are response. a And getting canvassing great the globe literally and they

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total, in probably so, it’s And shortened.

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that are it’s So, applying. for process challenging a people

shortened, that’s different courses So business it’s and not is really the a short faster.

Peter Appert

accelerate separately and – margin, scale would larger? extend to a up cohort the of the spend Okay. marketing XX% the on context measurably if you part is optimal growth, business desire be that XX% to is step the in And had the the margin not the of the of margin current that XX% to then the maybe the or conclusion

Christopher Chip Paucek

have margin clear managing willing mind, not but the with spent in marketing. we think business to long-term today, there, we’re we No, structure us we’re that right go should also more on the to it’s

Cathy Graham

Yes. the driving And for absolutely individual I’ll has margins, the to how of nothing a simply add those margins steady to get opportunities it’s we do programs guess run that scale. too run with what had getting is short taken long to in if to our I down that rapidly timing state you’re

all in So, I long-term margins. think commentary we additional – our spend about at the don’t way any long-term any what proper are makes think

Peter Appert

Got Great. you. Thank it.

Operator

you. Thank

Our Tong next from George with question Sachs. Goldman comes

Your line is open.

George Tong

afternoon. Hi, thanks, good

intention the your incremental Regarding term, to enrollment what’s have your expected return to in words, enrollment evolved? expectations other on spend more In near drive growth revenue investment? how

Cathy Graham

optimal to steady has allowing for stay talking So, have the portfolio. is in state I don’t a And a any to that think steady be is, state portfolio. we’re LTR return about period TCA that around where reality it what the been should our we

state the I a period harking to rapid in know optimal probably period a at short during expansion. That way comment somewhat are to about of simply keep there as it’s that just in is no has the to opportunities So, LTR we of TCA in us across than at those growth opposed long-term rate the student steady to think portfolio run – programs enrollments makes high to the in that the steady and ought right less we that get economics will opportunities any will this accelerate what saying for what still are trying path be and state marketing sort to to said are that to our that the be, unit profitable that we state state a portfolio us allow will don’t margins, to you of there evolved get steady that. foregoing want as portfolio growth steady and we that of thinking help back just entire ensure do now

George Tong

strong to helpful. to follow-up, terms of you programs one or can new how earlier That’s coming with up, factors? of then program you in in standards after Got offerings And year class pipeline due a changes other with discuss sizes mix admission DGP your it. compare expect or

Christopher Chip Paucek

year. or sizes one Do mean class more of you sizes Class cohort than sizes?

George Tong

sizes. Class

has one-year program…. how program year, once a year, the been one after So, for old live

Christopher Chip Paucek

cohorts, I mean you believe think I mean cohorts. you

George Tong

Cohort yes. sure, cohorts, year, one versus Yes, years aged or three sizes say, yes, after now ago? two

Christopher Chip Paucek

and XXXX our faster,. time, those more – faster. Well, XX but so MPV, those having our was verticals XX ramp ramps basically will just we and end like MPV the big because you ramp remember it’s has cohort was so up should MPV, verticals all over does cohort it’s cohort mostly getting if new mostly slower just

George Tong

look if and a it at a cohort basis at on what And basis? you program on don’t you look

Christopher Chip Paucek

if I – program expect sense that’s our asking. makes sizes, haven’t mean, changed that of what today, in if you’re still terms our our opinion we average – we

Our average same. expectations remain the

George Tong

it. Got

Thank Okay. you.

Operator

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Christopher Chip Paucek

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Cathy Graham

you. Thank

Operator

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