Ken Goff Senior Vice President, Investor Relations
Chip Paucek Co-Founder & Chief Executive Officer
Paul Lalljie Chief Financial Officer
Ryan MacDonald Needham
Stephen Sheldon William Blair
Jeff Silber BMO Capital Markets
George Tong Goldman Sachs
Fred Havemeyer Macquarie
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Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the 2U Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Ken Goff, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. you. Thank ahead. go Please

Ken Goff

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Chip Paucek

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Paul Lalljie

Thanks, Chip, and good afternoon, everyone.

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Ryan MacDonald

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Chris Paucek

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Paul Lalljie

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Chip Paucek

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Ryan MacDonald

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Chip Paucek

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Ryan MacDonald

Chip. and Paul Thanks


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Stephen Sheldon

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Paul Lalljie

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Stephen Sheldon

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Chip Paucek

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Stephen Sheldon

close. Thanks. Thank forward to it. Look you very Got much.


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Chip Paucek

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Jeff Silber

so Thank you really helpful. All That's right. much.


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Unidentified Analyst

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question Goldman comes next George of with from line Tong Your the Sachs.

George Tong

Hi, thanks. Good afternoon.

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Chip Paucek

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Chip Paucek

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George Tong

helpful. Thank Very it. Got you.


from question Havemeyer Macquarie. is next Your Fred with

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Fred Havemeyer

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Chip Paucek

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