Parth Patel Head of IR
Chip Paucek Co-Founder & CEO
Paul Lalljie CFO
Stephen Sheldon William Blair
Ryan MacDonald Needham
George Tong Goldman Sachs
Phillip Leytes Berenberg Capital
Josh Baer Morgan Stanley
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Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2021 Earnings Report Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Parth Patel, Head of Investor Relations. you. Thank ahead. go Please

Parth Patel

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Chip Paucek

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Paul Lalljie

Chip Thanks, afternoon, everyone. good and

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line Blair. Your Instructions] question Sheldon the Stephen first from [Operator William with comes of

Stephen Sheldon

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Paul Lalljie

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Chip Paucek

going there driving. a what of making focus in for we’re of to segment business that the we’re the we based what in I thought call Yes. important I future mean, long-term on was on think, Sheldon, terms

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fit building So, programs and our on than undergraduate profitability more will long-term profile focusing high that anything. quality graduate online,

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Stephen Sheldon

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Paul Lalljie

overall, excited. of we’re first Stephen, all, So I think

in closed the the November just because in stages, are timeframe. We early transaction

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Chip Paucek

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had of we’ve but we’re couple a only right So months, now loving it.

Stephen Sheldon

Thank questions. for it. Got you the taking

Chip Paucek

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Your next Needham. comes MacDonald line with of from Ryan question the

Ryan MacDonald

Thanks for everyone. Hi taking my questions.

you perhaps to bit fiscal here? how about on the can a sense we contribute can Cred think XXXX you a do As think works more color us give XXXX, and guidance what of some edX for of that growth revenue across Alt degrees,

Paul Lalljie

of a couple Hi Ryan things.

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Ryan MacDonald

Paul. up. really color. Chip you for I that That’s helpful as one really appreciate follow a

demand able maybe bit they’re talk to of on seeing programs. stream programs? out about a greater a about, in for offer larger, and Are of some or demand launch talked because declines to new for ground? seeing actually you creating to if degree these enrollment that of translates the is universities be Thanks. both this overall Can what maybe reeling online push online revenue caught cadence of how of you’re the the the you some So environment

Paul Lalljie

demand and the for There management plenty business companies. services Yes. is plenty There program of demand online is us model. of from other for the

in reports in the same that compare for range. see the you growth growth at, overtime time above that look our can growth of to that you we’re space. [Indiscernible] them, in And You period Ryan if

continue decreasing big Sydney a new the four with that’s programs for of outside the students core growing you of looking in market United students for commitment for of services. for really reason the you’re announcement undergrad So our and to significantly see plenty today what higher on the and XXXX, that’s US, States with at some with part amount degree XU. a percentage level undergraduate demand of And the overall

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Ryan MacDonald

color, Helpful I so will much, back hop queue. thanks in


George Sachs. with line question Tong next comes from the Your Goldman of

George Tong

thanks, good afternoon. Hi,

business impact beyond business lead credentials what in Your you costs? the and costs. lead is XXXX lead alternative and around cost that Can gen discuss the assumes guidance for for higher gen across from per trends most seeing you your saw quarter

Paul Lalljie

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Chip Paucek

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George Tong

helpful. months? Great, that’s drove the trend? the kind you next the have you’re actual traffic XX to product has into within around have you attendance seen kind edX what examples to of hoping converted successfully integrating examples where of seen have edX, quarter platform, achieve audience how or effectively the very that What synergies diving into seen evidence you online you XU the program gave over XQ since perhaps you’re of and edX and And

Chip Paucek

couple months. a been of literally it’s George,

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George Tong

it, Got very you. Thank helpful.


from Your Capital. next of question Phillip comes the Berenberg Leytes line with

Phillip Leytes

given Can with guys, for that my on can competitive elaborate bit scale landscape? you the that the Hi thanks highly you you business gives enterprise? taking part confidence a little questions. the strategy What of

Chip Paucek

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Phillip Leytes

Got thanks. it,


Morgan Our comes next line from with Josh question of Baer the Stanley.

Josh Baer

Great, the for million XX% frameworks state? term on the you margins launching question. I in guess, programs timeframe your How and question, you degree appreciate I end on the of steady business, if reaching longer about thanks Chip, XXXX. for the part on of had first state about stopped and revenue question comments think steady and do there. $XXX targets the

Chip Paucek

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Paul Lalljie

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there, that it’s the So today we’re something of that’s a our revenue, is believe outlook choices to year you we our it transition. is believe something very guide, is represents XXXX as what growth plus can platform medium-term proud get of out company. the made and long-term that the And we that that benefits XXXX we’ve and that we’re presenting realize necessary We of as And we billion we of. put balance a truly here and profitability. the see the numbers to

Josh Baer

That’s helpful.

type launches? if new of was, any with state that have second as scale part insights no and the of The you side, Thanks. state question as assuming same alternative exercise original margins, credential steady my far into steady just

Paul Lalljie

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Josh Baer

thanks. Great,


Your the Brent Thill is Jefferies. question line of with from next

Unidentified Analyst

question. Hi on I click side. the Brent. for on guys, taking to double the this want Thanks is David for enterprise

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Chip Paucek

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Paul Lalljie

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Chip Paucek

edX note experienced very members. also would brought team with I some sales that it

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Unidentified Analyst

color the Appreciate it. guys. for Thanks


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Chip Paucek

Again, you We’ll talk thank you soon. everybody. to


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