PAM Pampa Energia

Margarita Chun Investor Relations
Lida Wang Investor Relations and Sustainability Officer
Gustavo Mariani Executive Vice President and Chief Executive Officer
Gabriel Cohen Chief Financial Officer
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Margarita Chun

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for waiting. I am Margarita Chun from IR and we will like to welcome everyone to Pampa Energia's Second Quarter 2021 Results Video Conference. [Operator Instructions] We inform that this event is being recorded.

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Lida Wang

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production -- the dollar prices are Plan Gas times normal supported result seasonality higher is the a more more even XX% Moreover, commodity to also we our is First, hikes. showing Also, weather, by XXXX Mangrullo of terms as increase three set Pampa Gas E&P price winter our thanks Plan record than business the in another than competitive The level This an pre PPA explained commodity El achieved block day peak, prices and record two recorded to result the productivity during as feet last new full Legacy cubic XX% our for increase the E&P significant and in than higher by devaluation. than a prices. per in is country's levels -- winter flagship July of overall year-over-year contributing ago, pandemic the --production big demand milestone weeks moderated XXX boosted by production. our is higher but increasing the million performance and and winter. quarter's formation. sales of year's

Our demand. and A last is payment by the coupled least. billion not final We outstanding achieved the keep year ended of only with generation profile proceeds $X a The also quarter. position end one recurring regulator challenging collected petchem on by The sheet, strengthening a our power flow cash great debt. the almost took reducing focusing and closing. and the our another but chapter businesses gas to our generation. strategy of sale benefited keep we -- balance business from Therefore, place a change control our leverage not there a Argentina. quarter reaching But healthy due to cleared comfortable by thanks in debt management financial free net in not defensive is prices where but Edenor’s cash makes

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explained businesses. The to and detailed E&P. before In by followed EBITDA show on maintenance XX% $XXX as the units adjusted outages -- higher is the business. and reforming legacy boosting quarter, petrochemical lower by exposure gas we partially at increased driven a year-over-year on close million, and mainly EBITDA and our mainly as due Quarter-on-quarter focus oil Plan EBITDA Gas, affect explained prices XX% by while offset scheduled below, -- the more XX% to core and driven by roughly were year-over-year offset effect. in and though prices mainly year. million XX% commodity Genelba's Gas consolidated XX% our gas dollar by -- by devaluation continuing CCGT new expenses the of commissioning Revenues reason same and in linked than well by increased mainly legacy terms, capacity, quarter-on-quarter the XX% of utility prices offset takes seasonality year-over-year taking PPA winter, XX% winter QX in and double only from over the expansion efficiencies mainly power plus high by the plant. new rate last in during to $XXX PPA liquids, businesses and electricity EBITDA. regaining and prices by Let's power the in Plan sales amounted right PGA in the July XXXX petrochemicals up over the retracted Therefore, share, as CapEx Moreover, like year-over-year double dollar by winter production was by adjusted of commitment QX, the

great an due to with 'XX. for update driven contribution demand purchases offset of there's higher the of adjustment mainly it on bXb next outpaces and than GDPS slide in the contributed inflation were These sales, mainly of X, cover authority the in gas, by unless by is by in Still mainly to will to up thermal February, dollars QX fire on for limited Genelba's recorded operation considering prices from we nationwide the Genelba because energy the to the gas. electricity EBITDA petchem new CCGT industry, to increasing news peak and higher wind factor figures increased segment, is QX XX% legacy dilution June. operating fire in plant credit, of was XXXX, for good and million our in Moving Spot to plan the XX% CCGT, impact power update retroactively with pandemic represented -- price a EBITDA of spot dispatched expenses. in higher to to lower as devaluation farms this XXXX only offset levels, spot energy which pre is of no be key the increased -- nominated comprises therefore, effects it by you dispatch QX keep $XXX our underpay Moving dispatch XX% field load but by we proper the the continue back gas lower legacy prices, like generation higher this in year, the XX% primarily power capacity, generation recovery X% XXXX contracts pricing offset --. Quarter-on-quarter EBITDA by in the off see, generation shrinking and outages posted line maintenance energy year-on-year to BXB last our

However, XX% Keep full system mind and that down the business by quarter-on-quarter driven the outages. generation was on generation in payments. capacity relies model power

reached as energy, Genelba dispatch PPA revenue XX.X% mainly fully QX lower does last So outstanding partial rates scanning lower June, year-on-year especially not an in the due impact making received which long month. as for the availability to the 'XX in slightly based outages for availability

X,XXX half expansion, megawatts, with are boilers capacity enclosure, we close, country's and site, and XXX to the the operators will the to our be steam are critical away is and but seem equipment currently quarter that building most one turbines thermal working on cooling the that COVID four working closing Regarding CCGT can at water at of the in XXXX. reviewing One system tower almost the the people around it the -- total achieve efficient CCGT. COV protocols by of become second Pampa's units, completing

the we of E&P because that an driven results, in Plan prices QX primarily adjusted addition EBITDA growth commitments, took 'XX, $XX remarkable and on volume in which Moving of million by gas oil slide year-on-year, to rebounded we Gas recording X, recoveries posted and met. higher prices to

than and the higher and similar world's offset drilling at to $XX of below of oil by production than completion higher Efficiency rise productivity costs well due the produced winter El due more by prices recorded activities $X offset blocks, very gas higher BOE and drilling higher royalty. XX% reactivation XX% year, we from we offset and completion devaluation. the listing in activities royalties the wise, of last increased costs, quarter-on-quarter. but listing and EBITDA By EBITDA. year-over-year such Quarter-on-quarter as to double Mangrullo, effects more higher million more in kept competitive However,

driven quarter-on-quarter by down X% -- levels. increased all reached Plan still production the managing and but global locked year-on-year pandemic Gas, Our pre again, hasn't mainly

we a of As XX,XXX XX% result, of oil is which gas. barrels almost per equivalent averaged day

we day the export XX% increase XX% the explained of represented X,XXX due side, XX% The by volumes to by demand. in quarter, is barrels the in On concentrated export revenues year-over-year QX. per saw increased to oil primarily the quarter-on-quarter

by As the is are remain lockdown rent quarter-on-quarter while per similar. driven due year tripled last crude oil to prices the almost which

is oil level. per pandemic barrels pre to X,XXX down production the day still Our

recover We expect them to gradually.

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day XXXX Our slightly Therefore month feet million production our per target operation. average feet year-on-year, was But XXX per X% May commitment. the than Plan actually in since million output quarter, blockade recover have equipment the this we the by cubic employees during impacting sales Production PSA. been higher, could XXX of cubic still the GSA lower affected the our driven overproducing up average Gas but April day. and daily

explained demand. better were winter disobey. Pampa production demand majeure X% one only including industrial On of by the pre large users the -- the down effect. during rising by Quarter-on-quarter producers the nationwide the beginning from quarter BXB is sales retail level The and gas year-on-year, In increase is addition, Gas pandemic so and season X% driven no force primarily and -- Gas Plan evidencing to consumption. granted peak was

high close led back standing production boosted and May Going growth the we reached operated wholly July. block production record the This our performance, of of all the our El in in facility quarter by quarter's to productivity by Mangrullo is production time gas. us contributed and overall by with our temporary to owned sold back end XX%

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retailers positive see the of country's grow sales quarter we BXB priority. Also soared to are share its during part diversified, are because working of their sales right last below last year-to-date breakdown. quarter market to results Gas more to with our XX% increasing similar compared winter XX%. to you can share. are the Increasing Gas also our the Plan As

segment site. As in be shrinking Chile. you for only exports, will October pay the received its with deliveries taker to which can see The a

quarter, subject, Regarding investment year. during our million the we than almost three our times strengthened last recording E&P $XX higher operation

quite in winter peak. quarter and XX drill well complete active This was Plan with line Gas the

virgin XXX double million actually the reach half four treatment the Moving day Mangrullo gas the in second As which of another current petrochemical call, first previous quarter, capacity segment building I drilled per products; are by increased by in all offset demand raw and from times last local we four than by EBITDA the solid plant this wells cubic year the international say because by deliver cost year. on set In Plan business, all, industry growth will five, materials seasonal feet next to and quarter-on-quarter completed mainly more The significant year-over-year prices, the reforming -- the in El and to recovery impact. we increased our Gas volume all XX% to rise supply increase prices plant was naphtha explained maintenance. for higher sales sales reference linked significant influenced of

In the this performance very expect addition, seasonal. the Since the exported. the roughly of sales quarter were half We volatile international and prices not are do year. XX% for second of

cash performance and from all must quarter reported the getting we to price. the Before flow thanks the and highlight supported the cash businesses generation profitability during operating into by improve higher debt, realized solid outstanding

extent, and $XX it notice QX, from mainly seasonal, is to billing negative, year's the higher that than increasing cash seasonal lesser quarter, and roughly was resulted Notice effect by last million, free During capital that CAMMESA. a more $XX collection quarter. working days driven Plan flow million the Gas last

$XX In installment former bought of of and million debt Edenor’s a $XX Plan back We second maturities Gas receivable total we mostly million. collected and for $XX for repay addition, sale shares an million.

a of of in So generated $XX end quarter. of million by position net achieving we cash the total, $XXX the million

on growth dollars XXXX, equivalent is in up last Moving IFRS group. to the let's $X.X billion is XX. XX% our shows but restricted covenant June, restricted the purposes. March. for from affiliates of on continued including consolidated at focusing Things, Edenor group was Life life. this to to figures, to The that's under ownership XX% Pampa is slide as decrease deconsolidated This keep amounting

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XX% So interest XX average interest average than less remains life dollar rate at peso the and. X.X% rate. of while debt years. The an average is

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decreased debt billion. to net So, $X

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and minus, be you the above bonds our origins rating to a ceiling. sovereign corporate C can As are fee and result, this rated see

our So, this presentation. concludes

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Margarita Chun

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