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GBDC Golub Capital BDC

Participants
David Golub CEO
Gregory Robbins Managing Director
Ross Teune CFO
Jon Simmons Managing Director
Christopher Testa National Securities Corporation
Finn O'Shea Wells Fargo Securities
Robert Dodd Raymond James
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Operator

Welcome to Golub Capital BDC, Inc.'s March 31, 2019 Quarterly Earnings Conference Call.

Before we begin, I would like to take a moment to remind our listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements other than the statements of historical facts made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements and are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from the time [sic] in the Golub Capital BDC, Inc.'s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

For materials the Company intends to refer to on today's earnings conference call, please visit the Investor Resources tab on the homepage of the Company's website, www.golubcapitalbdc.com, and click on the Events/Presentations link. earnings the also Investor BDC's Company's on Capital in website Resources Golub release available is the The section.

to turn As being a BDC. conference now Golub recorded is Chief over the for replay Officer reminder, purposes. I Capital this of David Golub, call Executive will

David Golub

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Gregory Robbins

David. you, Thank

net the quarter. assets the ended per for or million, XX, the income, compared million, March increase Let's look to income, it, credit $XX.X quarter $X.XX operations, in the $XX.X the details was net per we $XX.X ended for for the million or or quarter share, share or at ended income or as as share, to was share, XX. Net or resulting for December before from $X.XX investment March quarter losses, quarter as call $XX.X Net XX. million, for $X.XX per per $X.XX December ended compared XX XXXX

capital we incentive result income fee from $X.XX Excluding we solid or the quarters, for the or the this was net a this a on unrealized unrealized will provided share, $XXX,XXX on in per NII the gain to as compared further quarter This loss investments Ross credit the $X.XX investments $XXX,XXX the prior ended for loss and foreign the and of quarter, a the investment quality prior million, investment investments loss per have unrealized and is share, realized $X.XX the $X.X ended was on continue for meaningful more for per share fee, income as we $X.X to the portfolio previous adjusted XX realized with gains accrual share, net of or March share, quarter. net and Despite and currency of realized see reversal net bit. XX and losses to $X.XX of discuss million, income or quarter compares million, net Consistent for depreciation. per currency million excluding March net incentive in of $XX.X Net $X.X capital investment accrual the million, measure. think per as and quarter. foreign $XX.X realized unrealized

of XX% for Fund ended and million $XXX.X XX. Loan the fair total $XX.X were X% Approximately approximately March commitments were Senior X.X%, new companies were in the senior value in quarter at equity million, New totaled middle Overall, during X% loans stop market or investments secured commitments increased by quarter and investment securities. the loans, one March XX. investments ended portfolio

can Turning before to from a at investment per XXXX. asset net on per slide the capital net share and our incentive we earned X, the March of $XX.XX perspective, earned table XX, income for you $X.XX a see per share we share $X.XX the income fee, the gains net perspective value from accrual

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Ross Teune

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David Golub

Thanks Ross.

sum to GBDC a of solid up, XXXX. had quarter fiscal So second

the Let in now to me three shift I mentioned opening my topics remarks.

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and asset September First $XX XX, NAV would of is assets March NAV the of per the as in net per NAV grow value Based that could share the to described of now immediately X.X%. estimated we March to the XX expected to GCIC the be and of transaction as share. GCIC accretive the level growth GBDC's of due more -- we in as merger accretion between would per GBDC's bit approximately be bit and to GCIC's That's when on a continue net GBDC's anticipate share up a to closes. from where size is accretion increase

because be to point, to the per trade three average the on GBDC's the value continues potential GBDC share, been over years. the second XX% would premium for GBDC's assuming The at last transaction offers transaction to NAV accretive that creation trading NAV additional approximately the

managed, combination that GBDC of scale. advantages publicly has create would externally of the largest Third point, assets, terms traded by and BDC in fourth the GCIC

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process, proxy prior the responding GBDC statement government the December we're the filed SEC, coming in hopeful their XXXX, GCIC with shutdown discussions I'm to just and review SEC shutdown. joint in delayed that that pleased preliminary XX, the with The weeks. recall now on we're report proxy the the but and SEC we You'll to SEC finalize can to we're feedback

February our leverage note Let's coverage strategy. from turn to required limitation and approved mentioned effective reducing XXXX the I X. by which our structure earlier, debt your XXX% the refresh second Act leverage on To the ’XX to proposal a topic under recollection, X, brief on asset February was ratio increase GBDC's XXX% stockholders capital annual meeting, at its to

that is leverage debt-to-equity GBDC's We bigger on we we'll current intention implication X.X about the of last ratio continue cushion was to it near-term a target regulatory the a to have approval this mentioned said quarter's GAAP times. call, limit. As to primary of

page You that. mentioned on that XX comments at a GAAP as can going little than over on earnings XX, that in see X.X. I'd Ross of was two and offer presentation, GBDC's higher leverage today's March

GBDC's a leverage haven't leverage expectations and target bit changed. It remains times. target, leverage X.X GAAP quarter-end although intention our was our strategy First, our about for at over near-term to

proposed for we that merger be GBDC. the GCIC deleveraging Second, currently anticipate will

bit with above now, leverage end the our post-closing. a running combined with target in up line GBDC company with we more So think target will

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Operator

question Christopher first Our the Testa. go [Operator line Instructions] ahead. comes Please of from

Christopher Testa

on lot down guys. of the securitizations I my as expect an pay which a some it's be off if deleveraging I deleveraging, factors; merger are on well you taking a it'll might And you based paying -- to be? give mentioned had you know deleveraging credit just to for provide expect accretive questions wondering of me, also is facility, idea David, Good Thank be? Could obviously think how you on that well. a guys today. just looking could very us excuse you and afternoon, target the range I'm you you you how it

David Golub

Sure.

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come at two GBDC, the combination that be at merger do is time X math were you at a today, it the can the of slightly expected look you looking So, bigger of out, and you them GCIC average given ratios and if to the than debt-to-equity times. bit under those at and

Christopher Testa

the I securitization to been a paid bit. down referring like just was little that's has Okay, just helpful. XXXX

a upon the you do securitization but or kind Is entirely of that sheet completion larger that's off put to to up plan you as some after the going is with didn't merger, could I afford at do that So, would the ability together, to obviously sticking sizable. to guys cleared that you that least balance the take quarters? the merger initially that time And David, be think you're to do that to new know looking the something maybe able if well. that pretty was few before this pay right a be going of

David Golub

reinvestment and goal different risk. diversify I to effort consist balance several but all period post-merger have the different want to an think counterparties, end different of to right-hand dates our securitizations sheet Well, the be of with one, have not the We side in securitizations. to be will

So be the right-hand sheet we're likely sculpt bank and as many exact of on include going to four and we'll time the to facilities those market looking is side two to securitizations conditions. balance the timing one when over perhaps to do going or of as depend

Christopher Testa

the I remainder that stop of Is significant loans so, and Got M&A, amount what's has continued know that originations due the in quarter. your on outlook this you're for if it. And of primarily a a trend year? your were the rebound that and quarter-to-date seeing to this one the

David Golub

I standpoint, QX calendar we that that origination was only -- saw disruption followed XXXX. in an think, okay given not of QX market from it calendar the QX surprising

So over my QX. to expectation is the course XXXX -- improve I actually relative to environment of origination expect the

Christopher Testa

Got it.

David Golub

I’d also that to are payoffs side my which is going too. add is of improvement, expectation one dark increase

stabilization average rebound a we have market after the when in tend to last expectation like payoffs. I quarters a today, So from of we've is situation that you low levels have tantrum. forever. payoffs by mean my They which benefited what last don't several And below

Christopher Testa

Got it.

nervous certainly The sort XQXX sponsors certainly given agree the valuing feel of in of but short-lived that to the skittishness me then queue. hop this certainty they're for and of that they’re still that's lot in the back market that may like if with than even and loan despite and a I last you I'll was very about and I more are -- close in had platforms with that volatility? they volatility -- do rebound yours Now a prior one the

David Golub

an were of market realistically as is due of on because period you just QX syndication get that a a to choosing opposed hot again. and standpoint you're describing. sponsors win in share from you desirous The dynamic is by cases, on wanted QX can't calendar describing. not solutions In to markets week, rebound well sponsor were uncertainty very to that calendar reducing to if the did these that so truth markets of odd the supply. we syndicated nervousness options memories many where buy-and-hold expect the Right sustain deals that and now, and last there's about syndication much are sorts issues going in We

three the of early the I last route, more generally to for sponsors in-between in short-lived, environment but most so go syndicated compared And we're an we're to QX the borrower-friendly environment not prefer lender certainly friendly return market now, that the years there -- seen and we've to seeing who calendar a more where calendar of right of are QX lots QX. think

Christopher Testa

today. that's me. great that's color and for Thank for you Okay, all time your

Operator

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Fin O'Shea

Thank you, and I the off one was thrown the by four.

good portfolio quality, on loans on about there. language covenants, which on other view, is is question what's a it category slate your slides, here, a compliance category there's maybe Can you of in the first slide covenants. out which or third with outsider's of maybe generally performing the an those maybe and, me, XX%, understanding on color appreciating going seems expand form these pretty for are of but it's is well-marked from given with -- some the color decline my XX So covenants maintenance non-compliant

three color typically on happening what in you any category company? So would add is a

David Golub

Sure.

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Fin O'Shea

thank for color on the that. Sure, you

those flow but stick issuers whatnot were the kind you quantify of add-on's and a you BDCs lot of that transaction which if Connection what's incumbency an general. often BDCs as we generally talk -- Another one it you appears to only a with meaningful about larger in driving -- -- about but deal as you talked in will for a Fitness on to advantage, Can lender? how not and be certainly see sponsor-to-sponsor recaps and perhaps roughly

David Golub

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Fin O'Shea

peers a and perhaps of middle core syndicated unitranches in flow with side. that market, -- terms the a saying your appreciating on market markets even of and and Chris all, means upon not doubling the that staying is Actually better. of the as think Okay. the market But compete larger better generally skittishness most, more do that if fewer deal more volatility the are percent on them which that down and I lot stable on very of where really this the rising certainly touched as the one you're people contrasts can making on are direct middle

juncture, that, still we say concentrating you can at you would to be this you kind becoming true, of expect market more bracket? So core -- middle on may that are be the

David Golub

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Fin O'Shea

the today. for color David, you, Thank

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Robert a have We with from line on James. do ahead. question the Dodd Please Raymond go

Robert Dodd

of A couple questions.

a about First, one merger. the technical somewhat

in You is the effective that you XX SEC -- and the holding get or the minimum Is shareholder and days Can a what's minimum the have is actually us you vote? proxy some an remind hope proxy few effective the mentioned longer between timeframe period there you're weeks. with you wait? working you to

David Golub

the and think required. a XX remember going reasonable be expectation we’d But the XX I be to proxy minimum between vote. that that, To is the that's a of I mailing have honest, don't days it's after

Robert Dodd

then actually unrealized that's XX, XX, did it, quarter, to one some this the the quarters. March, I XX; I want think at slide appreciate the it pay just SLF. a in total the mark though, obviously all that, look -- of return. thanks. But XX, economic a a couple didn't either Got whereas had dividend in actually downs, this dividend two last of on of one but I lower you the March dividend quarters and when highest paid last last a September And quarters the Obviously quarter X.X%, June return But a five return. annualized hasn't pay

you we on that simply a pay to looking metrics be doesn't it's or thoughts in or when it at likely can us should be So to determine some a whether look is should dividend; we give position like business project hurdle. to because a what return

David Golub

that dividend are be dividend the something the we've couple before would impact as -- cumulative incentive of that which increases Bear is it given paid paying in last look being of quarters after profits. increase mean it So incentive fees. the where mind NII would way when fees, been a we should at the there

a cap dividend we dividend, good for of net bad paying higher which manager shareholders the would is have So gains, for a a amount net unrealized and by realized that paying higher. be and and not income means

net So shareholders. that's good actually for

now time payment is dividends, until -- senior earning cumulative page, rush think is as not I'd this a whole on looks also this company. is that which the thing out lot profits. we're such to leverage the in sure entity a we I'm other X.X, SLF on So the earning which of you've restore point is noticed, like which one on -- a basis

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Robert Dodd

the in assets and currently speak, million economic a so really essentially fair color. it's follow to I I that the below whole, I it, million right, $X Got your tag think profit. up, point, so appreciate If of kind of on $X can the to on value means that cost,

between it recaptured maybe dividend its kind would of me to total it be a returns, to be So you that income its wouldn't that its for until conclude kind markups, of and pay fair looking that.

David Golub

Yes, just level time. think because can you you right, over the achieved I it made has which and second at point don't of between assets fair is cost value a of the look difference is profitability the

at So want you I be profits. what cumulative think to looking is

Robert Dodd

Thank that. appreciate you. it. Got I

Operator

continue further are turn at you. back call this your presentation no Thank closing to time. you. with I'll There Please remarks. the questions or

David Golub

in well Great, before questions always and chat we up Appreciate partnership us meeting, you thanks additional come for if as topics have your reach feel today. your our to quarterly everyone and next attention free joining or out. that please

Operator

That does your conclude We And the participation. you your thank for we for please that lines. today. conference ask you disconnect call