Golub Capital BDC (GBDC)

David Golub Chief Executive Officer
Ross Teune Chief Financial Officer
Gregory Robbins Senior Managing Director
Jon Simmons Managing Director
Robert Dodd Raymond James
Finian O’Shea Wells Fargo Securities
Ryan Lynch KBW
David Miyazaki Confluence Investment Management
Call transcript
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Welcome to GBDC’s December 31, 2020 Quarterly Earnings Conference Call.

Before we begin, I would like to take a moment to remind our listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements other than statements of historical facts made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements and are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from time-to-time in GBDC’s filings with the SEC.

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Gregory Robbins

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Jon Simmons

Thanks, Gregory.

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Ross Teune

Jon. Thanks, Great.

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David Golub

Ross. Thanks,

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Robert Dodd

Hi, guys.

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David Golub

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Robert Dodd

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David Golub

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Robert Dodd

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Finian O’Shea

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David Golub

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Finian O’Shea

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David Golub

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Finian O’Shea

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Ryan Lynch

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David Golub

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Ryan Lynch

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David Golub


this. two good So, Two on questions. comments

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Ryan Lynch

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So that means reversed out are still have there. XX% not

investors of think encourage March to that but losses about So, that I XXXX that from reversed to think unrealized not remaining couple quarter? have how different there’s XX% that, you about ways a think would of

David Golub

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quarter, would you it March how X after me ask will told have probably would we occur If expect reversals, years. the over over to many to quarters I you see

three In quarters. of it fact, XX% occurred in

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Ryan Lynch

Great. time. Those afternoon. have I my all the questions are that really this Certainly. appreciate I


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David Miyazaki

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David Golub

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David Miyazaki

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David Golub

joining Well, for David. thanks, everyone, us today. you, Thank

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