PFLT PennantPark Floating Rate Capital

Art Penn Chairman and CEO
Aviv Efrat CFO
Paul Johnson KBW
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Good morning and welcome to the PennantPark Floating Rate Capital's Third Fiscal Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. The call will be open for a question-and-answer session following the speakers' remarks. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Chief of and Capital. Floating Chairman Penn, Executive PennantPark Officer Rate Art Mr. you conference. begin Penn, your may

Art Penn

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Art Penn

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Aviv Efrat

Thank Art. you,

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Art Penn

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Paul Johnson

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Art Penn

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Paul Johnson

quarter. repayments about any do on million curious, the how of that. Thank repayments. repayments sales And $XXX sort I'm much just in was for versus that just for have of then Okay. you the of breakdown quarter, during you

Art Penn

top the I don't have off my of head. it

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Paul Johnson

Okay. for quarter, you’re that. for expect to you mentioned still such granting times requests you those? and continue your Are you then, labors, curious, during Thanks I was And getting labors several I of just modifications know providing borrowers loans. the

Art Penn


So, prepared and have gotten our certainly -- real very real comment this make and been remarks. industry, covenant. over the the the have most Unlike, against time focused look, that covenants we have competing covenant or course I syndicated in broadly in to of market, protection, people been wide we have light some tried that structural

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Paul Johnson

last And was appreciate I on just Great. question that. JV. my

a didn't of quarter-over-quarter. Just commentary, close. in think the almost too bit performing, little on remark curious to JV equity investment a maybe I getting how flat was that's made I look you

JV helpful. are on So, sheet, not what's same that's how But, of if would on quarter-over-quarter [indiscernible] be I'm if balance sort the liabilities the as at play. familiar any marked commentary

Art Penn


So, the of PFLT. JV is really a microcosm overall

NAV we had same non-accruals, amount, the in was non-accruals are the non-accruals, similar up about couple X%; So, JV.

similar, So, of we’ve PFLT. PFLT, deleveraged pretty a image Like mirror that vehicle.

the So, a little are NAV well. down earnings that as in vehicle up. bit was

So, kind of same theme.

giving Asset performing well, much a earnings is we'd good and book about little very the hurting in preservation down, values rather coming think little are strong, of income. position I things deleveraging, the versus we bit. where But, income, be all slight equal, up bit book the about attributes a feel portfolio LIBOR being capital a

that of it PFLT. much to over portfolio should portfolio, see see of we'll be and that mirror happens what a the is, So, see well, earnings that as pretty image time, portfolio stream how robust

Paul Johnson

for taking questions my Thanks Great. today.

Art Penn

Paul. you, Thank


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Art Penn

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