PFLT PennantPark Floating Rate Capital

Art Penn Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Aviv Efrat Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer
Kevin Fultz JMP securities
Ryan Lynch KBW
Mickey Schleien Ladenburg
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Good morning and welcome to the PennantPark Floating Rate Capital First Fiscal Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. The call will be open for a question-and-answer session following the speakers' remarks. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Chief of and Capital. Floating Chairman Penn, Executive PennantPark Officer Rate Art Mr. you conference. begin Penn, your may

Art Penn

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Aviv Efrat

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Art Penn

Aviv. Thanks,

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Aviv Efrat

Thank you, Art.

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call the turn me to let Art. Now back

Art Penn

we reiterate want our Thanks, mission. to conclude To Aviv.

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our with ahead securities. question you. [Operator Thank Instructions] take Fultz We from first go can and JMP Kevin

Kevin Fultz

question. you Good for And morning. thank taking my

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Art Penn

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Kevin Fultz

then the CLO completed that the can level now And the color. that in forward? appreciate we can JV expect you financing, moving discuss Okay, PSSL growth has of

Art Penn


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carefully thoughtfully quarters. in to something know, that's coming the So we'll look you you and achieve, fulfilling know,

Kevin Fultz

have pre visibility just level do prepayment? you then just thank And lastly, the so of far? touching Okay, that quarter-to-date kind And of on payments pre-payments, then around what you.

Art Penn

Kevin, around it's a usually of good prepayment, had question. we What have transparency. level we transparency good pretty

we - financial in management, sponsor, have know, typically we to times. at getting know, are talking the statements. all enough You the typically you We're

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So I'd normalized environment. say we're back a to

Kevin Fultz

Okay, that's appreciate question. it from me, you and I taking my

Art Penn

Kevin. Thanks,


Ryan All our go right, Ryan, please Lynch we'll with take ahead. next go ahead question from and KBW.

Ryan Lynch

Thanks for questions. my morning. Hey. Good taking

are of the Art you as though, some of close, markets, the and for deals, a shrink to and just that level. First way the all, of to have sort And all of quality the been yields? have leverage seen of mentioned lower Certainly, return back higher levels, as you some if start new liquid seeing loans level? those wondering, the in far and and attractive of structures pretty pre-COVID higher protections terms we've to benefits those seeing, kind kind outlook pre-COVID being pretty not reverted

know, you're market still back to sort orders see, the of levels? to those that expect you be you know, you to are in those in long do levels? how you're know, deals - you So pre-COVID starting better And versus, seeing, revert if playing in, so

Art Penn

call very take which peers play of in do some Many is terrific is, billion basis the question, and where Ryan. it's of with we and fray with deal market, of And flow or to covenant-wide. in? core what It's lot space. of is million market, broadly the a writing know, middle have do million a they're the compete first, And definitional $XXs loan day decisions, syndicated kind that months. you a is quick, in syndicated And quick middle to there's very, and because with middle due the call And big That's covenants, do labor they getting three of covenant-light of the of velocity we business weeks And play we there's high in we we on the compete in of broadly loan out $XXs peers, a question, companies. space less focus a in? you where really day they're million statements, a We know, many core big every assets manage these on doing million, market, opportunity which deals do checks EBITDA, million diligence, diligence, due market, are to we or core our, play which $XX process. to and $XX negotiating more of $XX slower market you competing to we market. companies only the than financial many, make a million our large are where just for below $XX $XX we much a, it's know, yield longer market intensive what and multiple

nice times As equity also track on part we've record. MOIC these co-invests, with record we had get the of this, which track X.X a very

world, certainly bounced the pre-COVID. way the somewhat as know, all world level. COVID. for bottom where it's market, - move back We where, you basically different back In to has is a have back. bounce back. to it's of taking a loan longer it's that But a it world. that market, the competing to taken IO moving was since is no certainly - the So result, it's broadly with the slower And We were syndicated which our

we're core think can returns. adjusted of you like $XX really a like know, we attractive we kind risk $XX million this to get market, in and where we position, we middle So million,

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well So a COVID. equity during co-invest position really combination the of as low us defaults,

Ryan Lynch

though, that being down other in PFLT do And to well to now always general all in color focus do a to or market. appetite and lot coming about of as we're investment kind That’s And of direct late may any invested pandemic, scenario, you intend more or whether as downturn you of or on have Okay. of ran you structure exposure? kind or to higher PFLT that's course, we talked And of you taking is great target businesses. far prior targets more on helpful. as capital investing of capital COVID, markets, lenders just be the far as your I past, are the income be in risks? wondering in industry you where recessions are shift through as structure know, the cycle out at as in the steady that this since you know, as it and, know you kind a just you going a of where

Art Penn

what risk, your grandmother's structure. as PFLT open from a lower been one, Yeah, with think we been always so lower has positioned BDC what lower you expense has day know, reward,

yields the the So industry. are in our among lowest

is times in in lowest the four of are the the lowest industry, the our leverage Our industry. among expenses among

not for that. So PFLT to veer off know, we're we're you intending not

focuses developed kind you that's services where key though, forward among have sectors business room healthcare, going government the you in where software, in. I the really of technology digging digging, and deals think smartest and key and consumer. deeper our know, expertise, five of And meaningful defense, one people services, of come domain that's can and think these we be I know, we've kind we is where we're

to the those questions think deal You main to And know, play. going in the we know prepared. comes we're where a right when areas in, have where ask we really expertise, where we we're

Ryan Lynch

there just platform, then more is last And III. you similar is In Okay. Or PFLTs? a Fund to fund to investment on had curious, or platform PNNT as That PennantPark is one. as PFLT would co-invest PennantPark helpful Or I'm does PennantPark fund? speed sort Credit to that co-invest PNNT? [ph] any the to one And any better with of of across closed, have be similar impact ability January, strategy just ability Opportunities a to that that I the it

Art Penn

Yeah, senior a no, private well we that senior overall but two we equity we separate vehicles like have business, we debt. yielding PennantPark, It's a as a basically is - vehicle, of which have we senior debt private. is higher blend private first-lien, growing PFLT second-lien as have co-invest. a distressed And as have opportunistic, senior strategies, an have equity PLFT, are and look lot co-invest.

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our You which you again, which business, equity with to the there. very so ops looks we But PNNT, you without know, that's due know, for the closed that a PNNT as have co-invest has been energy, well. XX% been had a know, And know, you a defaults. in return doing these net and fund and XXXX, focus, that have minimal challenge lot which like PNNT. call Energy a credit we

two senior that. mimic our of and opportunistic debt BDCs kind So large, PennantPark and at strategies,

about energy forward. some out point I strength think we're and move And Although of talk good at get to - making that we'll going later. we're progress, and hoping PNNT, moving

Ryan Lynch

Okay, time all questions. and are - strategy Those got it. on really On fund helpful appreciate that. I the on private That’s my clarification [indiscernible] that for that.

Art Penn

you. Thank


take ahead and go ahead. please from we'll our next question Schleien Mickey, Ladenburg. with Okay, go Mickey

Mickey Schleien

Thank query you. hope the Good Aviv, little morning, I to well. wanted the about on of a pandemic. bit Art on ask and Art,

your we where obviously about looks me, and to through private is, partners mutations, willing longer one are those support to you and capital injected to specific of borrowers some the sort that additional continue companies hoped. continue of is pandemic to know, will to and get how stress, certainly it of equity in see do capital You significant vaccinations how industries, And situations the we inject that had event than the write the when My like question additional other need will viruses them borrowers. go your in think think excuse checks you and planning, like side? on some pace I the to these

Art Penn

Yes, that's question. It's all companies. have some about great liquidity, maintaining a of their grappled these feel first done a I really we've companies in think liquidity. position with we very and these in good mean, job good one they're all, of I a liquid and

underwriting not the back You a know, assume however, in case our long bounce the spring this takes, or summer. does

case underwriting Our assumes, later back you know, bounces XXXX. in XXXX and

in back encountered know, and do bounce we but sure we've very you liquid, summer have we are. bounce way. any in which we the they back not and or made on you of may that may we are And companies counting the kind summer, - not spring know, or So, any these weren't all we've underwrite spring

you which are, the we teams do right just have have we as any by COVID, they to in These teams. well And companies, which that. things, would elongated the whether called, good the be teams they're you with call really as management but we management know, feel deal schedule, vaccination done be be to may sponsors. can or hit good really So positioned what solid management happen which

Mickey Schleien

Art. Thank that, for you

senior strong fourth not was noticed portfolio calendar and the market the in the fourth Just market had discuss be just you opportunity particularly that portfolios I M&A. your And prepayments Could would were background sheet, company. But was balance expected? on income higher funds the both for loan terms high middle of, know, for in trend than and shrank you you that quarter and at Looking and quarter pipeline? on for the both fee backdrop some PFLP helpful? that

Art Penn

got busy it's done a big got back had question. and a Year's. bank. investment repaid by quarter, to a then Cana, the Cana, of earlier very And towards end repayments that busy. I we large a with in be great lot seem which and closing of we really think between the we’ve so a of New And and position deals including bunch Christmas a syndicated Yeah, had the out broadly we quarter, the And taken loan there were in

How risk So quarters, never careful deals in ramping. to And that if question the cases the is that what think it the strong deals? thoughtful, along while our had appropriate In a we history takes at a it, some look we put really judicious said, Again, And, motoring with making we and exactly and we're a busy a shouldn't We really rush the longer sometimes will middle get put with fashion take And you aren't problem takes attractive, at adjusted you It in rush. learned very timing? better. deals handcrafted, again. you these a is ramping. much. this look of these our longer shouldn't don't more ramp have. We this what portfolios. to by will we the BDCs we've just to mortality we many really that vehicles so core and really know, engines encouraging is we percentage market, is and like are the diligence, way, co-invest funds, do and sometimes always know, take of package they we think methodical return, are I negotiate. increase and private at large. about But believe this you and It's -- mean, But know, problem want nice we've you into deals. sure companies, going. I teams are of lot have these [ph] hard you a these in of, to be including

Mickey Schleien

Yeah, for Thank that, I understand. Art. you

results? Just that housekeeping restructuring questions. driver Was a couple the or loss, more realized causing of was the of else sort something the there main marketplace events of

Art Penn

when or were two restructuring. gains a Yeah, - now you when as that this In that - losses. MSpark, MailSouth, well realize realize you know, the case, as losses there's there's like the you

realize you completed, loss. is So a when this restructuring

Mickey Schleien

to Or decline. sort PFLT change agreement platform size Okay. in overall the else? continued And was expenses due to of administrative with or the it lastly, advisor? of the relative Was that to to some something the due

Art Penn

is driver fund growing private main the business. As our

and when G&A, allocated we a So fixed that rata platform. we we and team you around ops - and gets our have have pro do finance know,

our private growing, it which to So returns, the extend it funds G&A. to and business grow, the will it really and lowers is continue BDCs helps with is, future

Mickey Schleien

Thank Okay, size. care. so it for you it time. That's for the me. relative was Take your

Art Penn

Thank you.


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Art Penn

healthy. good look everybody, Thank for forward your and interested May, in a we early We Thanks, speaking safe the Stay you. review Have to March results. PFLT. in with you as day.


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