UPLD Upland Software

Jack McDonald Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Mike Hill Chief Financial Officer
Tim Mattox President and Chief Operating Officer
Kamil Mielczarek William Blair
Brent Thill Jefferies
Jeff Van Rhee Craig-Hallum
Richard Baldry Roth Capital
Terry Tillman SunTrust Robinson
Alex Sklar Raymond James
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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Upland Software Fourth Quarter Financial Results. [Operator Instructions] The conference call will be simultaneously webcast on Upland’s Investor Relations website and can be accessed at

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Jack McDonald

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Mike Hill

you, good Thank everyone. and afternoon, Jack,

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Jack McDonald

had finish strong total very QX. XX% was a net revenue outstanding year. Thanks, We XX%. Mike. We so a in growth, growth QX XX% dollar strong an rate to at retention adjusted posted EBITDA,

that UplandOne drive continues loyalty. more proof So customer to

revenues Our at in target organic reported X%. in recurring growth QX came on

growth the For was XXXX, year X%. organic full

read digits, that to we X%, about. target that within that X% range target mid-single talk our X% both of X%, So range to consistently

innovations enterprise covering We some in-house winners. call. section in focused innovation of those Tim’s innovations combine in our of as through had host category detail with out acquisition building we’ll be QX a the And greater product in R&D we our program into of of clouds R&D end-to-end

And couple had our in I’d cross-sell Tim some that fourth success will more a it the bell we ringing I without fourth journey. note still new minutes. loudly, But had quarter. innovation about record that. obviously, early in talk to go-to-market in in And We want with and help to expansion team cross-sell and note, going the material four new our and are it’s too the the the clouds bookings quarter. there of

uptick we major pretty strong deals. including saw in a activity, cross-sell some But

and a media committed company was for sentiment large center and customer global a was to largest call our And company already So happy offering significant that a efficiency. customer that communications to cloud our knowledge drive offering. management

early it’s there, again, days, we’re beginning So some but there. traction see to increasing some traction

on We front. had the a record year M&A

We For annualized the million average annualized million paid acquisitions acquisitions, a so of adjusted X.X total price we in full added revenue, completed EBITDA $XX X.X five forma times year, total when $XX and revenues. in that pro total five revenues fully of in model. total an

adjusted So a again, paid average restructuring forma And of that excludes was costs. the typical revenues basis times. on of pro multiple turn EBITDA half the X.X

highly are and strategic. accretive these increasingly acquisitions So

stronger winners. We I it’s than it’s than specific that building And category out to really the of in been position and note in never to is been. a end-to-end and that pipeline would around add our targeting dependable order of end-to-end targeted solutions marketplace The to been, ever ever create trustworthy before now our create category our has are acquisitions greater clouds capabilities in pipeline these as we degree better. cloud never is buyer want like our general and

to came leadership. updates occurred customer closed team Officer, enterprise leadership sales Commercial sales to Upland’s announced. by solutions Chief Favaron, Rod create software for account including President true cloud subsequent and A year-end. also been veteran that has success who the and with and as global And also a new We which announced a in led Localytics, major new industry distribution go-to-market distribution, of marketing, acquisition couple of initiative true

are we our So five to welcome Rod. He on was happy Board for years.

enterprise reporting Tim successful Rod model. working of very both which high-growth Officer. scaling to Rod organizations. together and will at a familiar is has software and track So team, Chief he be Lombardi, will President and Spredfast our record Mattox, worked be before have Operating our and me his with alongside

our guidance XXXX. Looking to now for

the go-to-market to pipeline. addition increased we addition I leadership enterprise and team. account guidance reflects in acquisition new guidance robust spending. would XXXX great program sales go-to-market clouds, marketing in a But XXXX additional planned the including As of proven four and that for and related are that, global our in leadership go-to-market hires Upland’s note investment strong positioned a with initiatives, new indicates, also compelling

these XXXX EBITDA in goal Even adjusted EBITDA investments, with rate. in at adjusted achieving XX% Upland’s and level with EBITDA of XX% a at XXXX increase revenue margins maintaining XX%, in change XXXX, annual Upland’s XXXX guidance incremental margins in while over to run no adjusted $XXX million reflects

access seen see customers our strengthens customers, network we just to powerful getting I’ve product more Now growing major to enterprise business X,XXX scale, adds started. major point and start to of clouds, built mass in this deal is a and over and solutions, before, flow, capital and our pump get Every adds and process, to It in before, acquisition through we’ve product you access customers effects. critical you a products, to where our force and we a people, which adds can X,XXX accounts. than beautiful then model, are sales it and

more and So we XXXX excited be road beyond. couldn’t the about

I’m the will QX numbers call going Mike, take who turn Mike? to With over and you to that, guidance. through the

Mike Hill

Thank you, Jack.

for through our quarter As of full Jack XXXX. first the take for XXXX outlook the financial quarter fourth and said, the just and year results I’ll you

million $XX.X fourth quarter was $X.X Perpetual a as fourth year-over-year. the the for the support an revenue for Professional quarter revenue representing XXX% $X.X the over of increase. from XX% of Total million. fourth year-over-year recurring $XX.X and services was million quarter, of grew year-over-year growth XXXX revenue revenue license XX% quarter, to for subscription million, XX% or was increase

gross equipment our during depreciation Moving product of fourth cash was of down acquired margin margin we remained XX% the to or amortization back XX% and gross XX% P&L to quarter, intangible the when gross which margins, refer and overall assets, strong at gross as margins. adding

XX%. Our professional margin services gross was

expense refundable tax the research credits, fourth of was XX% quarter. our net of total expense, the was $XX.X representing revenue representing the million, fourth total of quarter. to revenue Turning quarter, $X.X for Canadian development and in expenses, Sales in fourth XX% operating and million marketing

General administrative of fourth the revenue. $XX.X for was total and expense representing quarter, million XX%

total expense XX% $X.X in noncash the However, million expense, quarter. was compensation stock G&A or excluding of revenue

prior resulting recent, the quarter. from acquisition of our Acquisition-related expenses million during activity significant the immediately with fourth the the and fourth for acquisitions two closing to were $XX.X closing acquisition quarter one start quarter,

from end million acquired. $XX XXXX, six there Adestra closed In in at we acquisitions, capturing rate actually period of December December XXXX, the representing fact, of XXXX run through the combined right so during revenue annual

be All represents acquisitions, This aggregate year contributed forward. acquisition-related all the to of an unusually we those $XX will acquisition million $XX to as activity XXXX. acquisitions of continue of run sustained expenses six going to rate per really revenue here million believe acquired of don’t QX pace that we target high in

run costs perspective, Like view acquisition. operating But cost annualized of calculating which expenses, overall temporary the these about them flow. EBITDA. as when acquired we costs out acquisition of part companies are transaction to we revenue an accounting But considered a the of we cash also OpEx. an when course, When other impact transformation-related Remember, have X.X investment, acquisition, we from out do back there, generally amount adjusted acquisitive they GAAP looking at turn acquisition, and of these rate.

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fade gone acquisition, XX% For Then three these they during always in year. completely of the acquisition-related by of down months XX% dramatically go each then acquisition. expenses the to anniversary tend first the would recognize these doing and quarterly if are a first way, away individual acquisitions P&L we quarters to post-acquisition. Said in would future within and costs the cease another today, our decrease we

million in $XX.X the quarter of fourth in in same million to loss period was loss $X.X Operating a compared the XXXX.

was net loss per of quarter Non-GAAP compared million the million to per gain share a a GAAP or net in of share of loss $X.XX net XXXX. fourth in $X.XX in income XXXX $X.XX the $XX.X or was share share income of the net million of quarter fourth quarter $XX.X per or of or to per a of $X.X fourth compared $XX.X $X.XX XXXX. GAAP non-GAAP income million

XXXX fourth total XXXX XX% EBITDA or total $XX for million QX $XX.X XX% quarter to or million compared of revenue up XXXX was XX% adjusted of Our revenue,

on quarter Now of sheet balance fourth statement cash. and with cash We ended in flows. $XXX our million to the

QX XX, cash operating $XX.X was the for flow cash flow implies million, year For which December ending operating of $X million. XXXX,

adjusted year our to operating our operating up a million. $X.X operating earn-out included the our However, of flow been cash the credit million acquisition-related facility settle for of annual million. million expenses XX% reported onetime in adjusting would $XX.X a old of acquisition Also XXXX operating have and cash or were Normalizing in most cash payment million nonrecurring onetime our EBITDA. flow was of included $X.X items, $XX flow adjusted annual these cash approximately $XX.X in flow of payment interest

Although some conversion flow in rate I adjusted these will note expenses our so to XXXX that accrued were and cash in closer future will XX%. is periods, be normalized paid from EBITDA acquisition-related of

Upland for income looking and $XXX XXXX million mostly approximately is $XXX tax taxes UK. in cash-efficient of comprised the in million were usable, – $X.X currently capital NOLs of Upland taxes federal of when at Cash expenditures. remainder approximately these, of And and tax which U.S. million total million of NOLs. XXXX. tax cash Furthermore, is $XXX taxes $X.X are to has million compared the

pay to cash taxes. We of million per U.S. state continue income Ireland form income some taxes, and year expect income $X $X Revenue taxes, to in in Agency the Canada mostly taxes around million to

in were XXXX, XXXX $X about million expect generally year $X to CapEx and compared million of for of CapEx. million CapEx a we $X.X

the for B now expanded fully our $XX paid it for future During credit million our by fourth million revolver, $XXX M&A. quarter, draws Term facility off and leaving Loan we available

December we of factoring offering on million approximately $XXX cash deferred XX, gross the $XXX of after $XXX sheet. outstanding, As in million costs, approximately balance our debt XXXX, the debt million, had making excluding of debt net

announced reaffirming and guidance. our recently are full-year We QX XXXX

at expects Upland support and between subscription over be XXXX, the million million million, XX, quarter growth midpoint total including between revenue revenue recurring March to and for in XX, $XX.X ended the XXXX. million and reported ended quarter the XX% For $XX.X of March $XX.X $XX.X revenue

at adjusted to $XX.X growth an of XX% at be is over and For XX% the million the XX, the EBITDA million March expected ended XXXX, of midpoint, for quarter XXXX. the first $XX.X between EBITDA midpoint margin representing of adjusted quarter

million revenue million the adjusted for million and total midpoint EBITDA the year growth and support XX% For ending at and XX, expects XX, between year adjusted full-year growth ended between and December representing subscription XXXX. $XX.X of to including EBITDA at the $XXX.X December revenue be be revenue Upland $XXX.X of million, XX% reported million XXXX, midpoint between in of ended an $XXX.X Full the XX, $XXX.X margin XX% million to midpoint, over the XXXX. $XXX.X is expected at year December XXXX the over for recurring

And President I’ll turn to the with over Tim our that, call and COO. Mattox,

Tim Mattox

I’ll and before results good metrics that, our of operating customer give get year Thanks, some you by highlighting QX. review sales, everyone. our afternoon, of But product Mike, XXXX. let and full success for me started of for the a

In to companies. end feedback of year these for realizing leading dollar from the reminder, commitments methodology. surveys our the reflected a an unwavering has scale NPS we our every or to XXX% report define continue customers NDRR, in customers customer using Upland that products. twice measure you as see Upland by a rate, full they customer annually. software We commitment Promoter We for high enterprise against software that or our expect Score which NPS customer XXXX, net As success. at the both surveying this performance place Net the And value retention

NDRR of our expectations consistent XX%, our both and performance XXXX was with XXXX, For our XX%.

pleased higher. committed results and even driving We’re to with these NDRR remain

Sales customers aggregate which their in Customer customer annual annual the aircraft us. sales Experience over telecommunications expansion customers us its EMEA-based and their commercial our expanded expanded XX expanded business an to And relationships or expanding Project major customers Among QX commitments our home Enterprise We Management than to larger in our were expansions those other our and with $X.X commitment performance the significantly more Management to customers industry XXX recurring with cloud. existing supplier industries, expanded cloud. IT A building manufacturer XX,XXX were to revenue. XXX Turning in of doing or Marketing renovation revenue of a cloud. in specifically. ARR recurring commitment to our its business with commitment & significantly company by also expanded and existing multinational million QX. more

who Included entertainment Management Experience Management welcomed new Turning new larger Among to major Upland. American & in were We committed new committed to acquisition. in over a Upland to and customers a company our insurer who each new our those Project are recurring cloud XX customers annual customers in to customers XXX North IT customer committed who QX. revenue to Customer global our cloud. $XX,XXX

addition media our new customer, over XXX Another Jack new a committed that in Upland with Management communications and revenue Experience large And Mike revenue, Customer in contributed annual company recurring alluded to in that to, In increase QX. total customers license also other this spend referenced. significant the perpetual million recurring all, cloud. to $X.X customer committed to

IT An an alluded exceptional offering. referenced Project experience strong knowledge & that uptick beyond Jack with our company, we cloud Management cross-sell additional which our Jack committed As our to, large the management one saw a was activity. financial services in a to example after

efforts clouds with cross-sells our to continue them leverage four and more referring these going drive XXXX positioning we’ll selling we the more to in as solution of forward. begin going as We’re enterprise

On the continue customer-informed high-quality internal development. product in invest front, and innovation to we through efficient

solution the CXM For bringing example, at our computer InGenius, cloud. also centers enterprise customers. In efficiency That within we acquisition Agent lot with CXM telephony, two the we customers. to ServiceNow also record Upland a a within announced agents joint Workspace, of contact desk integration integrates for and product QX, support systems service with our within of for added ServiceNow and cloud, ServiceNow of

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cloud, enterprise company sales our is working to and acquisition companies is critical Altify, and we Moving sales forces. for offering solution. acquired great their a fit processes sales QX, customer announced a revenue a the it of of optimization or that optimize to in marketing We and our component enterprise

cloud, set customer over Within a infrastructure Management RFP & IT completed releases our offering our marketing of to our overall and within on key we also We connect sales usability streamline continued quarter our the and improve our to workflows our cloud. our and Project customers. mission to performance, automation security of enterprise

usage quarter, comparisons IT data that’s cost of existing enabling management similar we offering fourth Google our our and AWS the integrated a and the part cloud to in into Management cost & on-premise cloud Cloud adding the module example, between Project data, integration our For ITSM for cloud, structures.

Workflow Intelligent announcement product cloud We Document to in on-premise require processes. flexibility quarter, the cloud, Within operate the and for deployment exciting an for multi-tenant on-ramp workflow that flexible new Capture cloud scenarios. the route This organizations product we them had offers product. hybrid solutions in or en an the capture give to document our

new products Upland we investment continue Analytics seven finally, and QX, addition, product Upland supported bringing added Upland in a support a additional to by core platform We WorkCenter. the Analytics. Upland one component, our Upland number And of in to Analytics,

frequent And direction customers. Our analytics and we or WorkCenter sign-on quick into QX. key several central actively release are with actions went validating product, limited single that access a location to in for

So lots of exciting things on front. the product

to to respond streamline also to not in platform approval to and us incremental unified only allowing success We pricing, quickly, our more avoid foundation processes, to but licensing costs. operating commitment. and customer third-party customers XXX% quote our internally generation solutions we operations, invest to UplandOne, respect and of the With implemented developed continue

of integration to for our plans into the and Altify InGenius and UplandOne CIMPL completed also execute continued acquisitions. We integration

evolve playbook ability lead drive will to full processes, respect and further our integration with generation sales marketing to We UplandOne our sales improving coordination prior integration. and to team

And cloud In contribute full our to our progress XXXX improve finally, our We XXXX back operations in we level. high highlight and for loyalty which efficiency support, our next and finish year. to performance to strong results taking and continue and our office functions, significant QX summary, the the committed our success. remain customer to to customer

Jack. call that, to I’ll back With pass the

Jack McDonald

Tim. you, Thank

for now We’re up the to call ready open questions.


[Operator Instructions] Suisse. from comes Credit from Our Brad first question

is line open. Your

Unidentified Analyst

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Jack McDonald

the years, our the we’ve And over about last sales of began we number three times. So growing this talked headcount. a

from our XX% than to growth the If we’ve EBITDA flat the a with or to years, you the a team few for XX% retain EBITDA negative X% handful to company adjusted couldn’t up realized team margins. from the from we were back that that just growth get organic salespeople. negative margins digits. XX% to or three three ago, to but salespeople, organic back we go we same the until more not were we spend, afford And office And X% And targets. XX years did acquisitions, make on XX we sales XX%, up over could ago, of we’ve we hold efficiency About mid-single maybe the taken sales salespeople past a today. when that range. we we’ve would of margin years and adjusted time, because increased marketing gone productive point, model Happily, in the at maybe our the years, the three productive getting in the all enough rid

productivity. the But not I’d a drive to direct concerned, needed in on force way to bring in but terms officer more army. to of our as where got soldiers, an field a sales we sales we’ve team the say sales We that like will corps stand today in that front, of that is

other of that’s we the course, with team IBM, so why at comes to before Rod. to both made successfully he’s Vista bring that and exited move And Lombardi Equity. the he a with And to at in Spredfast. worked One

got as $XX-some-odd and this of this leadership is for drive we’ve us can got time is products on about these to critical enterprise more cross-sell those and And to so do we’ve spend, because or it And directing now XX% revenue pointed mass large accounts. that that it solution earlier. the across taking Tim we in that new four out, And Mike marketing, referred as million effectively. the sales selling, just true adjacencies clouds, currently and that

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guidance. XXXX a larger product migrate of and is orientation global part years, initial from or for we XXXX And account-based will sales this in what a spend the in team will that and account the out over do account then to of budgets executives. reflected our new begin that team And three begin to is hiring marketing those our build sales reflected our global management is team, next of share to couple So, orientation.

going organic our will we’re terms when maintain of that. conservative In impact on stance to this growth, look,

global model efficient with could will of to forma pro $XXX and the imagine and enterprise to add from benefit the the new I front EBITDA, in a team. effective achieve acquisitions, of level, organic model very kit if do well million formation guidance, margin you there move keep price. on more And that, and value a without the we’ve because growth it’s more created them say us growth bags be gone see quickly distribution conservative this place what start-up be at of, idea, that terms and increase the meaningful products, of have that because where significant organic management a it $XXX model doesn’t could would judgment sales we last reserve of enhancement, to in will that XXXX. for account We’ll integrate distribution. If business every a we a again, rate to we’ll billion growth, of product new more office this scalable, still let’s flying new But our terms is point through tell acquired front good now. contribution bag, goes organic XXXX it on a $X.X higher distribution into sales enable and account I million will office more margin into in frankly, we brings scalability done as can acquisition and

Unidentified Analyst

Jack, insightful. that’s very helpful and

provide to the terms in Just they of going on of quarter. update this are M&A a how from has been of in how larger second have you you busy the just XXXX quick acquisitions been guys and performing the half Mike. fairly follow-up for of terms some early integrations? Can Mike, some

Mike Hill

assets, all yes, assets, more on going been So all time, been on very performing well. growthier buying are they’ve integrations We’ve great. schedule, and thematic

very now sort just of performance, year, businesses, our we’ve Adestra five motions, we XXXX, could getting of So growth of six them the that a targets. still but while into proud acquired meeting model to to and everything, as period landing forward we’re so yes, we’ve much kind acquisitions off impact gotten end at if cash UplandOne knocked the include we last want the up where these possible distribution, keep as you I mentioned. here, and characteristics into And flow as those momentum margin in standing continue of platform, the

Unidentified Analyst

Great. thanks congrats for and taking again. my questions


of Our the from next Blair. line question comes William Bhavan from

is line open. Your

Kamil Mielczarek

Mielczarek a for just Hi, everyone. Suri. more. little on push question that to want on Bhavan I last Kamil This is

this quarter, most has last and You the X% in could think, marketing I six think see, recent it’s each like I remain the revenue accelerate do highest years, growth think. at expense previous Do Or in in, something years, from you to sales and your think in you range? this single-digit two grew organic rate years? at likely growth been the organic mid

Jack McDonald

organic drive increase scalable we’re in products. place to for distribution Well, our again, a and in sales growth create putting investments structural more to

outlook We’re on going conservative to maintain organic growth. our

growth Our guidance reflects digits. single organic of low

of long-term do is or where X%, our got differentiated buyer target advantage to integrate do with build to X% growth. to our X%, consolidation satisfaction by an value-creation that. that X%. read these out. terms primary a so we how higher customer game. And growth, ton ability think relationships. customer opportunity a operating there target margin platform are than digits, increase I X% our is that plays in again, against here can That’s mid-single and more driver going of but This executing is organic that We We’ve on real read – is cheap competitive of see a products, Our a and X% to continue be we to this the we’ll long play,

sober about be Let’s it. outlook the on

growth. But some the from we low single-digit that again, guidance it. to give this work reflects organic Let’s for XXXX and results will see outlook time

Our so scores. mid-single on those goal digits, remains no change

Kamil Mielczarek

And as And revenue? are cash could a million longer-term free follow-up, think your for What free hit in year? a Okay. margin be just what adjusted the margin you next generation expectations $XXX your multiyear Thank reach cash flow of you your flow cash you. target do the once over flow high quarter. free

Mike Hill


call in got free XX%. talks on a adjusted EBITDA the we’ve about deck slide that mentioned our I expect IR earlier, So, we’ve to cash of conversion about about, talked as as the flow. And

was those good differences in we our It here flow a QX. did Now, here QX. benefited in have in see. timing favor by good quarter cash some But to

normal of things out. those Some will

more to around probably had conversion cash XX% normalized XX%. we free said, as So, I a adjusted flow,

around run So, cash $XXX the take I’m is year; million interest, $XX adjusted of deferred $X are cash if $X a million get $X about million million million, XX%. that rate, million CapEx, sorry, will a main million those million you a year, $X taxes taxes, conversion of about a cash commissions to that sales there; $X cash year EBITDA year; off to a our year; about and are cash, to which take million you the $X you $XX items year that, around a

half talk that’s being of talked revenue. frequency contingent have. we million acquisition about That’s year. onetime per $XX a and amount run about acquired we costs, Now, costs $XX and targeting about about these million talked a revenue acquired obviously We’ve the those of we on activity turn rate to acquisition-related of

million $XX $XX $XX – affect that’s cash million, on free in these would costs. that’s flow. costs cash per our million $XX year. That our operating acquired these a million year, and be at flow of So, At

So, if you. for that know let me walk it doesn’t

Kamil Mielczarek

Yes. It’s thank great. you.


line question from from next of comes Brent Jefferies. Our the

Your is line open.

Brent Thill

you. Thank

to in really be to filtered Just of take do investments? envisioning historically anticipating those friction guess drag timing just the industry, on we’ve of be And been investments, that it And you. some this and go-to-market a in how expect disruption questions this just past the going of Thank I are during has from any better? hold? through. of great when you your transition? CD And perspective, there’s to do guide? just expect when like Or the not friction Are going changes this you that kind is any much there just couple them that you the you seen secondarily,

Jack McDonald

and the level of and we marketing are Rodriguez, team. more adding What additives. out Jim during Rod be came doing expertise any who company in management be will I Miracle the go-to-market. a is brings before, and on senior friction Those management driving the Rudden, Lombardi, experienced global haven’t side customer don’t who all executives. anticipate Virginia Spredfast of account will growing had our transition. product Joseph we’re success the that

going changing motions. existing not We’re reducing to or be our sales

this right I think team want to going spend any disruption But take make any don’t time. catalyzing will and anticipate to existing don’t we these that. more be conservative raise to from productive. now, things Again, we’re be because it I that numbers

first We in managers. that the team of of global the have also addition budget account

no assuming model, in from outlook. productivity costs are the they’ll So again, up. out there ramping them we’re in Their be our but

initiatives additional we’ve that from I conservative So, incremental these way, in in is think in but guidance, our so our no associated investments there cost these reflected reflected the revenue modeled a is guidance. with this

that’s the entrepreneurs managers, way probably way do think as but an conservative, how to go, that better what not in it. most most of we’re built terms is And best standpoint it’s think the from investor to and I do. I and people

Brent Thill

color. for Thanks the


Our from next from Jeff of line Craig-Hallum. questions the come

Your line open. is

Jeff Van Rhee

unusual. Talk to management the customer me revenue Several Great. on think, that, briefly the a size lines license add-on was unusual, a the wanted quarter. this center Thank for there, very big guys. said you. seemingly from obviously, I you knowledge efficiency. about I is – start with call obviously,

how they license they else Were this put more and came So, first everything to little purchase. a subscription that have that just an is big the Was talk they number. color customer? existing Just around license?

Mike Hill

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Jack McDonald

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Mike Hill

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Jeff Van Rhee

more got here. I’ve then And two Okay.

you learnings product, WorkCenter the toward of kind talked a about what move are your you On rollout. as broader

product you’ve goals Just what with when your and about and we might that talk learned so far fully see that available.

Mike Hill

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Jack McDonald

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in terms of rollout. the So that’s status

Jeff Van Rhee

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Jack McDonald

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Jeff Van Rhee

Great, it. Got thanks.


Thank you.

line Richard from from question Our of next the comes Roth Capital.

Your line is open.

Richard Baldry

of put it you the the the you do synergies throughout throughout be about bit in? think little first a deals XXXX talk you’ve already half expect out you weighted? Would of the timing it kind Or that more Can with plays Thanks. year?

Jack McDonald

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Richard Baldry

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Jack McDonald

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Richard Baldry

thanks. right, All


Our next from from question comes the SunTrust of Terry line Robinson.

Your open. line is

Terry Tillman

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Terry Tillman

Thanks, Jack.


from Raymond Our the of Brian last question from James. comes line

Your line open. is

Alex Sklar

targets? thanks. as Jack, investments of any on your of is higher-level Alex has question ancillary Great, Upland just Brian. some pipeline This the positive for Sklar you think buyer your willingness up on But desirability a the impact here. go-to-market step M&A on do a to for

Jack McDonald


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a great It question. a So it’s It’s is great insight. important.

Alex Sklar

Great. Thank you.


Presenters, No further questions. please continue.

Jack McDonald

you and Well, on our right. All forward all your much. next Great. you thank to this Thanks earnings time we call. very for afternoon, seeing look


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