Lindblad Expeditions (LIND)

Craig Felenstein CFO
Sven-Olof Lindblad Founder, CEO, President & Director
Steven Wieczynski Stifel, Nicolaus & Company
Alex Fuhrman Craig-Hallum Capital Group
Tyler Batory Janney Montgomery Scott
Gregory Pendy Sidoti & Company
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Good day, and welcome to Lindblad Expeditions Inc. Fourth Quarter 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Craig Felenstein, Chief Financial Officer. ahead. go Please

Craig Felenstein

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Sven-Olof Lindblad

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now turn let back over over to this Craig. And -- me

Craig Felenstein

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and for any very much to time morning. now you happy have. your answer would be this I may Sven questions you And Thank


Instructions]. [Operator

come will from question Wieczynski first Steven Stifel. Our with

Steven Wieczynski

maybe of if change booking seen also the past Sven, gave what you bookings terms should extremely kind couple weeks. around And of But could as help you've I the can lack in if there. well. wondering you've or virus of cancellation guys in them any that you And your as So elongated your window well? of over -- you be the detail or talk of a seen rate about being virus impact out good lot maybe obviously, potential guess then

Craig Felenstein

provide Yes. to It and year-on-year of This some positive. is don't in was, everything Craig. that kind to February year-on-year only was up, would of I XX% -- handle would mentioned, mentioned, As say, color? as completely can be Sven opposite, Why January. see January, I but some bookings I but through of was across close Sven returning into not say, start also will had. the itself, continue did, Bookings I growth year-on-year, one prime Yesterday days additional just towards to bookings. best strong the in I fleet. more say, is of the ships really would for new terms Yesterday the we board we've end choppiness, month, the the actually, a were the example. was

I continue on consistent to we a much, So see strength basis. pretty say, would

of pockets there in are higher day. said, That slightly given cancellations any

saw to earlier weeks we XXXX, year later in XXXX last of We opposed all all, are for year. the in earlier trend a starting to the in than previously. over seeing we're with more a see couple bookings, I would say, had bookings But as the consistent little in bit in we seen out further pretty travel that

Steven Wieczynski

partnership you. National any how should that process company renewal obviously. you've with you partnership or start you the and might if that seen and a about wanted about now Geographic play Got then I guys And about to maybe they're differences to major by the guys And how ask different how think Okay. think we owned that out?

Sven-Olof Lindblad

here. Yes. Sven

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Steven Wieczynski

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Sven-Olof Lindblad


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Our Alex next from with Craig-Hallum question Fuhrman Group. Capital comes

Alex Fuhrman

that bookings ask season itineraries wanted of I you booking strength that when that do about new been how driven existing itinerary the by newer launches some of shoulder comment you you've strong for Endurance XXXX. for is being the launching? versus in to your the feel on here you've like much seen or Can

more then Endurance. the on And specifically

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Sven-Olof Lindblad


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So we have in that, I well order. think, very, very

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Craig Felenstein


saw Let Endurance went sail on some the on increase XXXX, we due a with certainly the look When at up because bit me the little just booking of she you today. to a follow throughout large end color XXXX. profile

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vessels. we're for today, when remainder and a seeing bookings both the combination for see for we fleet new then across of existing and bookings So of XXXX, the XXXX,

Alex Fuhrman

And Great. customers any helping younger seems to there interest Have Or that's through been Wild audience. quickly Wild customers then transitioning more new traditional just booking ask on I helpful. in could the has Escapes? those you a these go then coming itineraries? of It That's longer, slightly after really if been like Escapes? successfully amongst

Sven-Olof Lindblad


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from Tyler Markets. Capital Our Janney with next comes Batory question

Tyler Batory

Do speak you you shoulder Wild with traditional on up the from follow gap about season to shoulder occupancy you of the think profitability ever added. talked the you're I guys you inventory actually perspective? to the what some occupancy could some close an wanted the that and itineraries those I of trips? First, season comments, in have Escapes of doing And there. opening trips with think your your versus building Can

Craig Felenstein

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a Sven and can if the he Let give in me sees chime of little opportunity. bit color

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on ships actually at occupancy on occupancy the similar Escapes to these said, That is today, the inventory look when doing was we're you the new that we've what the occupancy previously. shoulder-season very added with Wild that

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Tyler Batory

wanted up on competition. Okay. And to the Got also it. That's helpful. I follow

wondering of especially dynamics you're markets coming regions, some the if And the to your you talk other those positioned then competitive little and compares more you and polar there. in to online in Alaska? of Given the Resolution how just also the locations bit competition geographies, how a can then have specifically Endurance those

Sven-Olof Lindblad


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Tyler Batory

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Sven-Olof Lindblad


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And our come Pendy from will today Greg Sidoti. last question with

Gregory Pendy

in it relative about your prior Just -- mean ship Is be new ship How ship more. costs. new thinking think thinking about launches? April that XX% the be we I should XX% should you more is Craig, that about thinking new mentioned to something I earlier XQ? you're for about be should targeting capacity ship? we just the launch,

Craig Felenstein

when at going looking there new the wouldn't look going to I to you're couple go would of say there's would you're say launch, things I be train that way. vessel. to at over you're it hiring and Certainly, on the ship do. crew I a

not You're going be for used capitalized will purchasing to the be that that expenses. things ship are

of than cost things of ship. operating the more So of the kind it's rather those

at think were we versus with launching the launching Endurance year will look quarter, additional those cost to of a if associated costs going additional layer in the $X we're for the costs QX on at the probably technology platforms, look another you the new you likely $X ago plus that items. have first million when think where to that million in I two I

Gregory Pendy

of That's And still Okay. you time that the I last comment is targeting was kind last helpful. it. think Resolution mentioned the late XXXX?

Craig Felenstein

that's Yes, correct.

in to the launch fourth scheduled quarter XXXX. currently, So of she's

Gregory Pendy

And Okay. one, if can. I final then one just

guys now mean of how I do we're with into I databases. about the a momentum lot of the the just XXXX further the the XXXX Natural Natural guidance. thinking I anniversarying top Habitat? of, out mean continue line you a cross-selling you But did job Just guess, Habitat. very good on

Craig Felenstein


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over conference question-and-answer our I back Felenstein remarks. session. the would any closing This to Craig turn concludes for to like

Craig Felenstein

up days additional questions any with today. you, next Thank the operator. you, may have. for to joining over catching few you look Thank everybody, us forward We

help So with you. can please Thank just we give us call anything a with.

Sven-Olof Lindblad

Thank you.


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