Sprott (SII)

Peter Grosskopf Senior MD, CEO & Director
Kevin Hibbert Senior MD, CFO & Co-Head of the Enterprise Shared Services Group
John Ciampaglia Senior MD & CEO of Sprott Asset Management
Whitney George President & Senior MD
Geoff Kwan RBC Capital Markets
Gary Ho Desjardins Capital
Graham Ryding TD Securities
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Sprott Inc.'s 2020 Third Quarter Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, November 5, 2021. On behalf of the speakers that follow, listeners are cautioned that today's presentation and the responses to questions may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provision of the Canadian provincial securities law.

Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, and undue reliance should not be placed on such statements. assumptions may in expressed differ in statements. or and forward-looking or factors such results actual materially material are making implied statements, implied Certain from those

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Peter Grosskopf

for us thanks and Difficulty] [Technical joining today.

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Kevin Hibbert

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John Ciampaglia

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Whitney George

John. you, Thank

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for about So we prospects turn our we remain excited Peter? again. as our wait you. Thank

Peter Grosskopf

Whitney. Thanks,

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Instructions] the RBC from question [Operator of Capital Our Markets. will first Geoff line from Kwan be

Geoff Kwan

pro you that in the on transaction first format, in think base the how How as compensation run of like? of Just the G&A thinking what of on expense. you then that evolve with rate new well terms question extrapoling in compensation -- kind And looks XXXX? was are expense also, terms as may growth

Kevin Hibbert

here. Kevin Geoff, it's

question. at all that I'm Sorry, not understanding

are -- So you're to correlate what trying compensation acquisition? trying to the you to

Geoff Kwan

and the with right Well, expect expense? where just rate grow type too, And how yesterday's X% run G&A announcement, other now think do just rate you on as rate? it's you that growth is some or about to yes, expense just XXXX, of then to compensation at enter

Kevin Hibbert

you. Got Okay.


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number is think the to There onstream Stock don't our having we last summer when SG&A the would costs MD&A, Exchange. but I for we're biggest we obviously, environment, Geoff. started trading D&O disclosure It's now XXX to noted compliant. realistic. the that's insurance that litigious get that of we up. regulatory York more in and now, your think the like a I continuous is so New And it's year just driver goes insurance this be on more Obviously, requirements. came

into just I last existing is assets our drove our we where not ones few say the comes particular board there, So comp, numbers these coming much acquisition. what acquisitions would really then when plug not that directly to that driven done because any could by it essentially, largely compensation And were that's the are additional so we've on operations.

in If perspective. we our the look release from organization you EBITDA of the margin is the and press is and information even perspective at comp a disclosures doing revenues the main from operating and net circular an driver how today, our made overall

higher and or doing now to how of you will is I you at what be the to if you a own think going bit see we're the the I look do where ratio run at how year, than what look little today So at compensation it's XX%. to just think end and think us in your you models at expect it

your number the models that into business of comp plot would the overall what on like just just like. look extrapolate and based can earnings what You the look

Geoff Kwan

you're you you're just question stuff in of into of was mix private early that And breakout like of Can days the by And my it's what today? investors seeing these was Great. mean, terms second geographic about and the in different on Okay. mix, side. types fundraising strategies. I your the strategies what talk how bringing

Peter Grosskopf

that sticky allow mix feeder funds. worth sort It different the those still, of more place access imagine funds, to capital. or be base. These in And in changed couple individuals a Those credit The maybe which are put interest a as mostly the we are also, have getting large net much. mostly a endowments, global can bit hasn't Difficulty] quite of will pensions, small high U.S. I is it's handle [Technical from feeders of quite source Okay. that. it but well. We terms

hopefully forward. So we're those going feeders, growing


from Our Ho next Desjardins comes Gary line the Capital. of question from

Gary Ho

go to talk bit maybe in side. you back terms of whether there's Can metric, fee transaction. a the also the just And color want the arrangement to more earnouts? deal I URNM provide about any

John Ciampaglia

we disclose Until to recent in done all not in this think working ETF that. Yes. our the but at through that to Yes, fair Board on metrics point, the ETF Gary, terms. transactions process, where the that it's we're along John say further the of similar ETC is past. valuation Board, are the we've very not here. I move it's providing own still metrics trust going housed. the We're to also we're trust that prior But existing not only process the

You won't surprised. be

Gary Ho

management potentially changing any thoughts keep -- to unchanged? planning I you Are thoughts Yes. guess on charging the fees? any And fees that can today, but those I that check they're what on

John Ciampaglia


Everything At fee, is So of any fee. planning basis not where we're a fee it's an points. this flat point, changes embedded the that. a unitary with in ETF kind all-in XX has of

Gary Ho


in there. line then there's Great. new the just question, And within next segment, commission a Okay. exchange-listed

are I'm behind model looking I'll what going -- wondering out and that Just this those to is out. commissions. to drivers what the related

John Ciampaglia


the details. document So discloses all the trust

to trust you, happy to Essentially, after acquire a it If uranium, that to do the able send when commission. new X% raise us is to you and charge capital the we we're call. more want

you're we've uranium, other there that commission, been and commodities. of is as that compensates basically to material, work a lot And what seeing buying buying which buy so us been applying we've relative

Gary Ho

I that view should buy one-time But that you Obviously, a when you'd this quarter... as it. buy

John Ciampaglia

Yes, Uranium structure over and Participation carried Corporation. one-time a from fee, it's that

Kevin Hibbert

do I it a that Gary, you and how we of manage exiting is But what Right. would and uranium. acquiring part core in this business say,

at that when that keep looking in you're just So mind, line. too,

Gary Ho

the other Like Okay. on sell how And happens when down, that work? does AUM what goes way if uranium? you

John Ciampaglia


don't uranium it's the any sell we trust, So permanently. and sequester

Gary Ho

Yes. When question, segment. management the AUM Okay. And commitment other X.Xx. are sequentially XX% bridge my Can from last two, lending then the it on increase, about went fees look I at September. June me fees? to you help was up there the The

Kevin Hibbert

catch Gary. there, Yes. Great

from, So all make in the way sizable they're closed-end -- like that's the that, and actually expected on products, works rest previous when it at an happening management have those we specific in, the benefited institution there throughout otherwise the what throughout comes the charged is months that been is year. fees payment one a a catch-up to would

for you're up coming QX, the to way January. So you're having all in if catch to back

So the would as thought have that's purposes. be numbers really wouldn't modeling your correlated you as nicely why for

Gary Ho

Got Okay. it.


blended should rate still use fee So I management that... that

Kevin Hibbert

yes. Yes,

Gary Ho

done have that. would I

Kevin Hibbert

Exactly, yes.

in came catch-up make So these payment, then it's only had not, folks to the yes. it's because and

Gary Ho

Okay. And Makes just one for then maybe Peter. last sense.

products like targets, the named that any other uranium by be could on for? not potential other side, Just looking you necessarily

Peter Grosskopf

decarbonization a specific looking shareholders. the an long-term don't We build We income base, But asset not large we need minerals, one-off and deals. We're be pretty always have, to deliver have investment. growing hurdles of just careful do that we high the royalty-like our to our spectrum specific. to way. anything making looking for on by at vehicle want for We're we name to can

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from from our question And next the Ryding comes TD Graham line of Securities.

Graham Ryding

you're I in are of sort other besides at bucket? falls that metals there that Peter, guess, and uranium silver clean looking

Peter Grosskopf

are, on want specifics. comment we the don't but There to

Sorry coming. It's us like can about that. hear they

So we up we're to got be about next. quiet what to

Graham Ryding

you a rights. buying of you're can't that I'll as fund to to essentially you sort acquiring essentially I past? are buying want you've are it. answer good use this you clear URNM, just in be licensing question just I fund? if take want how But clear, the this be done the language, because you to similar

John Ciampaglia

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Graham Ryding


Peter Grosskopf

think own We so job it's U.S. years. our And housing team value built different We that in looked ETF I to does John his of that I their business and work. our some going interrupt. over And number a us John speaks for business deals. very it and and forward. it of to does didn't infrastructure it's these do What a valuable providing X things options tried think do of we with business at Arthur the that great it sorry the the Graham, team could do, is did a -- what types

Graham Ryding

expense a just couple Kevin, Understood. questions. Okay. of

what driving jump anything driving around was there? expenses first, a the at quarter? -- trailer million $X your higher to was fee What Just

Kevin Hibbert

front just you I'll the answer I on have me. to back have in that one. to get don't of

Graham Ryding

going ratio message the I to comp ratio, business And right sure Okay. I should here, just then at suggesting want reflective what for XXXX, comp the you're operating fairly got think. you is your of the I forward. be mentioned that make

So come your if less from lower from time, operating other on growth I it's going you it's think going that... the probably get not to a just SG&A from leverage here to would over ratio about the within expense of line. business, sort scale that comp come and Is

Kevin Hibbert

yes, the would of said say say the rate, is what on. number I former that you current didn't little the I little that. I than latter -- is think is bit was what part be saying run spot parts number a actually The that are is I Yes, a off. probably going to higher

up would XX%. than the are just finished So a right XX% earnings see for but be even going was all It's where closer year. anything, that flat. around but up last you it's right last it get forward But say, speak that to little statement. slightly if Graham, And QX, And little the last going reasons now, just what to actually strong it lower lower comp that's what's is saw the having half significantly. of saying, be to your you another this very looking likely in I actually to the coming to come mentioned reality. you're what ratio most the is quarter, than -- probably year, which now will out which does We're a bit you of quarter


any for I'm in And showing back closing turn remarks. like further questions any the queue. over to Peter you. I'd Grosskopf the Thank not to call

Peter Grosskopf

forward for year-end speaking look interest and after your we with everyone, to and appreciate you, Thanks, in call. Sprott, We participating our this operator, you in results. thank again


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