LBTYA Liberty Global

Mike Fries CEO
Charlie Bracken EVP and CFO
Thomas Mockridge CEO, Virgin Media
Andrea Salvato -
Nick Lyall Societe Generale
Vijay Jayant Evercore
James Ratzer New Street Research
David Wright Bank of America
Polo Tang UBS
Jeff Wlodarczak Pivotal Research Group
Carl Murdock-Smith Berenberg
Steve Malcolm Redburn
Ulrich Rathe Jefferies
Christian Fangmann HSBC
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Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen and thank you for standing. Welcome to Liberty Global's Full Year 2018 Results Investors Call. This call and the associated webcast are the property of Liberty Global and any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call or webcast in any form without the expressed written consent of Liberty Global is strictly prohibited. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. Today's formal presentation materials could be found under the Investor Relations section of Liberty Global's website at instructions given presentation, and a formal session. answer today's will for be question After the the slides statement of X Page details statement. regarding Company's forward-looking harbor safe Today's growth the are Company's meaning with respect statements within Litigation forward-looking that outlook not Act any expectations presentation and other its Private and future Reform including fact. the and Securities the XXXX, of to may include prospects historical of statements information expressed to involve statements could risks implied differ materially statements. certain those results forward-looking These cause from that or these by actual risks the include XX-Q including recently those filings These detailed in Forms Securities its Global's Liberty filed and with amended. Commission, XX-K as and Exchange most conditions any statements to change expectations any on Global any of such the its obligation statement is which to disclaims any based. reflect these forward-looking in Liberty in update or like now Mr. the call turn to over would to I Mike Fries.

Mike Fries

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Charlie Bracken

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Generale. first [Operator Instructions] And we'll from Lyall take Societe question Nick our with

Nick Lyall

ones Could ask I very quick two please. just

this time Just the Thank the be so can thing you please? give number should thinking mentioned the work us mention are about that and have no as you're what Charlie. between the Switzerland. buybacks thinking limit guidance efficient year's you size about idea terms give maybe rough update thinking just of an flow just free It in us but sizes, secondly, cash might and the well to and we of the buyback – you mechanics buybacks large like-for-like to to cash at you. what we a the could to you just what do that? out on about be just sort you a I of could And contribution may actually end Could

Mike Fries

Charlie, Mike, today on said it's of with every or of we're you describe proceeds. mean the use far, most I'll so can take to buyback question; structure in we the question. a call not quantum I the cash buybacks position Nick either work up as Swiss

complicated. determine could have market I working we the information, So at now. kind just easily we're to more look you alternatives of that those But on we'll absolutely into it's certainly think your this and as premature that on own, detail to it's stage get but not

to Swiss the cash, Charlie? You about talk want

Charlie Bracken

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And next with Jayant we'll take question Vijay Evercore. our from

Vijay Jayant

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Mike Fries

on question debt got specifically is around question the the question just we is correct, Virgin? So on your

Vijay Jayant


Mike Fries

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Charlie Bracken

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from New And James with we'll question Ratzer Street take our Research. next

James Ratzer

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Mike Fries

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Thomas Mockridge

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All right on with and move Wright we'll Bank to David America. of

David Wright

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Mike Fries

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question UBS. from our Tang Polo And we'll next take with

Polo Tang

I've actually got two questions.

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Mike Fries

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Charlie Bracken

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Jeff take next from Research question we'll Pivotal our Wlodarczak with Group. And

Jeff Wlodarczak

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Mike Fries

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Jeff Wlodarczak

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Thomas Mockridge

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Murdock-Smith And our we'll question Berenberg. from next Carl with take

Carl Murdock-Smith

from Two me questions please.

in a in That the multiple for that noted reported this Consensus the Quite you've you've implies $XXX OCF means minus the Swiss cable what expecting causing a figure you're drop And back were U.K. to X% just Switzerland trading deterioration think so the was deterioration from I Slide that reported or expecting? growth XXXX. two-thirds confirm you the $XXX secondly of was just X% growth underlying the expecting of business million just on I I the from business? is the on add on improvement; footnote. if handsets First in rest you then wondering just the you year. XX, growth for understanding of XXx XX% just the from an Slide in was what transaction, TSA the rest this million could if mobile is X comment year? on the

Mike Fries

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Thomas Mockridge

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Charlie Bracken

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Mike Fries

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to on with Malcolm Redburn. Steve Moving

Steve Malcolm

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Mike Fries

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Charlie Bracken

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Mike Fries

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Andrea Salvato

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we'll our Ulrich Rathe take Jefferies. And question next with from

Ulrich Rathe

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Charlie Bracken

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Mike Fries

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question from Fangmann with final our take HSBC. Christian We'll

Christian Fangmann

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Charlie Bracken

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Andrea Salvato

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Mike Fries

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