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Mike Fries CEO
Charlie Bracken EVP and CFO
Lutz Schüler CEO of Virgin Media
Maurice Patrick Barclays
Ben Swinburne Morgan Stanley
Christian Fangmann HSBC
James Ratzer New Street Research
James Ratcliffe Evercore
Matthew Harrigan Benchmark
Jeff Wlodarczak Pivotal Research
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Operator

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Mike Fries

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Charlie Bracken

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And over you operator for to questions. with that,

Operator

session question-and-answer The will electronically conducted [Operator be Instructions].

to first go with Barclays. Patrick will We Maurice

Maurice Patrick

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Mike Fries

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Operator

Morgan move Swinburne Stanley. We'll to Ben now with

Ben Swinburne

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Mike Fries

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Lutz Schüler

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is therefore, expected. So it as

Operator

move Fangmann we'll And HSBC. with now to Christian

Christian Fangmann

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Mike Fries

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Lutz Schüler

any really we course, of disclose details. cannot Christian,

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Christian Fangmann

if follow-up, one maybe may, And Virgin. on also I

some review was Virgin broadband there period. is addressing the of protect out think of Ofcom's their running ongoing that efforts news from Virgin minimum to contract and pricing I customers and related yesterday

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Mike Fries

accretion. I think it's small very

small customers. you're with much to come that centric, do And a if and at end, it's you attempt. the these So customer lower churn you

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Operator

move We James now New Research. to Street will Ratzer with

James Ratzer

I have please. two questions

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Mike Fries

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Lutz Schüler

Yes.

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Mike Fries

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James Ratzer

that's great. you you. Yes, Thank for that. Thank

doing Just markets back existing point, I markets a mean today? pull your the than what to attractive within deal might more outside look core going your

Mike Fries

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Operator

question. And Evercore's has next Vijay Jayant our

James Ratcliffe

Ratcliffe. James It's Hi,

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Mike Fries

negative debt You on arbitrage basically? the our mean

James Ratcliffe

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Mike Fries

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Charlie Bracken

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Operator

Harrigan move will Matthew with Benchmark. now to We

Matthew Harrigan

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an street, Thanks. including little the asset myself that think a I is bit. it's maybe neglecting maybe

Mike Fries

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Matthew Harrigan

Mike. Thanks

Mike Fries

you to Charlie, want to add that? you Anybody on are to anything that? and board to want add the

Charlie Bracken

said very you well. Michael, it

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Operator

to next Research Wlodarczak. Group's Pivotal Jeff go We'll

Jeff Wlodarczak

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Mike Fries

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Lutz Schüler

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Mike Fries

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Operator

second this Ladies quarter and XXXX Global's concludes results call. gentlemen, Liberty investor and

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