CZR Caesars Entertainment

Mark Frissora CEO
Eric Hession CFO
Joyce Arpin VP, Finance & Assistant Treasurer
Chad Beynon Macquarie Group
John DeCree Union Gaming
Shaun Kelley Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Harry Curtis Nomura/Instinet
David Katz Jefferies Inc.
Mike Pace JP Morgan
Dennis Farrell Wells Fargo
Patrick Scholes SunTrust Robinson Humphrey
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Joyce Arpin

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Mark Frissora

Thank you Joyce.

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Eric Hession

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Mark Frissora

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up will for open line the Operator? now We Q&A.


comes from Beynon first Chad Macquarie. Your Instructions] [Operator from of the line question

line from. Your now is

Chad Beynon

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Mark Frissora


answer the overall yes. primarily I is think

to and second, will will eventually start improve turns actually quarter things fourth luck We should we’re third also hopeful our way. - and -

that happens, obviously that on sometime. a that say when we're that And moves So statistical well. would happen salesforce also And is so as be initiative mean, the track. to always to will great outcome it I the expecting

of primary call phase We again, June And in expect forward. yielding actually complete to the start going what benefits we’ll we that obviously June.

anything both to you answer is the questions those - Eric, to yes. that? to add both So want

Eric Hession

in We core the general the business No, growth growth. positive trends seen I general of - the Vegas, the into hotel here of that we little exception quite the absolutely having feel And the the strength first a think quarter. been slot bit quarter In with of the strong. fourth the certainly Las rolled markets, in that's ADRs and is on impact that's case, right. underlying regional you've that business experienced

Chad Beynon

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Eric Hession

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Chad Beynon

the for models. much disclosure well thanks our and for Great. segment Thank you very as


from John DeCree Your Union Gaming. line next of from comes question the

Your open. line is

John DeCree

questions. and relative talk more guys wanted to bit Two Thanks questions. everyone. expect of you've room you of for Hey renovations the that little Las stick in with XQ. cited performance Vegas some other and kind that, a some driver and as you're RevPAR big Wanted room reported on the renovations to first about kind the of a hotel contributing is color of get front as that to that be initiatives how you but to doing performance. much the more strong think might

Eric Hession


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from We’re room now a renovating complete little over our XX% product.

that so definitely that. - complete is to And contributing

drive We bookings also website, higher further into deploy techniques, have higher continued ADRs. to which margin modified have allow to revenue management channels, those our which us flow to additional and additional through

Mark Frissora

business from October. to lingering as a - there's there's to add as some just you the that tragedy then some impact displacement And quarter the from in quarter will. effects will that, convention occurred negative well obviously the And to in RevPAR in that way

kind drivers. the bigger drivers I So the what of that you mentioned are latter I for was the forecast say of that some those guess first our of probably quarter. are will the two if I would

John DeCree

promotional reengineering marketing of and pulling the in XQ kind marketing and gain some program key back and And for on you're some back to the to markets Thanks additional to same starting at noticed color level, in you then year US the guys it. expense. time high other wanted the of where the markets shift half market share there. the that we've Got gears

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Mark Frissora


results fact on at we time. the regionally that share expense enthused were Of the were course we back market very pulling and the by marketing same

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expecting encouraging see throughout been to So it's because to we're continue this progress year. the

efficiency to would rather your marketing XXXX. continue improvements expect on significant yes, throughout question So to that we I in thing, answer to show say

John DeCree

level? kind would the of that Mark, follow you a of at quick and it's early strategy, that size kind you getting about the up When in on things innings on all kind implementing your if working are where of I still those the for could. opportunity of you at kind of say vision think right

Mark Frissora

or what are Specifically, asking, you other? about marketing

John DeCree

programs. exactly, marketing, calibrating your in On marketing

you your approach have in XX database terms of how you a room still can have your promotional Are program. more - you you Is what ahead? You run of do lot lot properties. massive calibrating there a and database, a in

Mark Frissora

efficiency. to forecast that show mentioned I it's safe to you, in feel As XXXX good continue I we'll to

as - is very not imagine, cautious impacted. you making doing might market sure we're share We’re about

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on ahead of going have experiments ample we lots experiments how opportunity we go, So depending us. and on have those of

of way we So I this that's going can year know a is the to answer be like It’s year. good kind best it.

we have hate and test until I’d that to to us. actually the that, anything efficiencies for Beyond tests experiments back the and learn future forecast -

John DeCree

the Appreciate color, enough. Fair Mark. you. Thank


question next America. Your from of of comes Shaun from Kelley the line Bank

Your line is open.

Shaun Kelley

afternoon. Good everyone. Hi

go about bit Just to through a ask little margins. wanted and

out were to starting in obviously remarks there, the a little cost out called bit prepared in hole inflationary you're a then And guys You QX. number going in right, of kind pressures. a combination of that be factors increased competition, the of a

kind are Just level at could to on high on what you side, your just a the curious, realistic improvement see all side that us what chances that you flip are improvement a XXXX? working I margin or so a continuous whether but that thoughts of can as not, diligently give is in on that goal mean we given the guys probability? stretch Is the or

Eric Hession

Yes. possibility. Shaun, it's realistic thanks very for Eric. I say the question. This a would is

you heard question, in Mark the making marketing lot deploying that As effort way possible. spend expending previous we are most efficient we're a on our the of sure

a a online, new the And lot creative coming be it way to using working that systems be to challenging with of well. invest. quite our seems lot We’re of technology, management we're we and

X% and maintained marketing down this And share in you quarter. possibly Our largely expense is we some grew markets. as saw,

So forward, to that's a outcome able great push we'll go be we as and to continue that.

corporate throughout business, opportunity think the we large process able that a a the and black deploy all continue And then review and that of our that, and we and that company. operate belts can of now to belts there's our green we have through On practices there. number a of side, way initiatives way the we we centralized we're properties that best for to control lot department at push finally, the

Mark in we areas, certain have of standpoint, fact record a was we be to XXXX, would year the mentioned, our margins the next higher absolutely the organization expect pressures and as which versus do in despite from itself. those headwinds So that

Mark Frissora

spend of results also we commentary more to initiative, initiative it and that yield we in and a I have us in doing and purchasing Eric’s - would add well. this year way efficient around we centralizing large an feel that's as Yes. have our going to procurement that for significant

Shaun Kelley

Great. Thanks for that. the clarity on

So second would be Vegas Las question on overall. just just

Like disruption give the play cadence can tail going versus year. kind to a XX,XXX of it and this You thinking across you about that's XQ got out us the you something service wind? it expected of little called like of nights headwind if to think out, out bit year room how I last I of just year incremental see, in was right, versus

Eric Hession


$X be quarter, in between million the The $X should So first XX,XXX. that's the headwind million. to

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Shaun Kelley

expectations push there would great. more and on of what to kind just any is modeling of XXXX And potential be refinancings can cash - then Eric if that interest through last you what Okay, more or what in Could number lower? are a that maturities expense. us start walk you - your on question, question have or

Eric Hession


But CRC the have of refinancings. right LIBOR loans. expected projecting there this We’re kind of Mark CEOC. We interest the acquisition, refinancings bonds. could obviously mentioned curve anticipate great be around you the now, to we in the and change if loan wouldn't this have completed the that million both some an from refinancings million may to look year. At prepared term on LIBOR. Centaur I of some interest remarks, We’ve I term anticipate issue opportunity to at $XXX an - at time, additional or expense don't given may the with $XXX a point, That rates

swing could that the rate change course significantly. Of

Joyce Arpin

add, were the parent. Eric convert would cash that do without expense on the interest but just Shaun I Baltimore, the at numbers quoted include And

Shaun Kelley


you everyone. very thank much Okay,


from Harry line Curtis Your of next question comes from the Nomura/Instinet.

open. is line Your

Harry Curtis

afternoon Good everyone.

up - hello. follow to Just

you a was a is interesting in Yet X% what's Just for Vegas to quarter with that group forward with tougher of the than out going guidance outlook MGM is - think be RevPAR Do got on you on what Eric, in that strong yours. that meet RevPAR X% bookings. range. first the to full you've exceed same out the the quick you mentioned there books? can up range follow that they're on their year XXXX. or based -

Mark Frissora


Eric Hession

the in throughout the down X% see first to remainder of We experiencing Yes. flat that weakness quarter, not the persisting the year. the we’re

is it's low next kind digits. actually improved year, us the and up group still two And In digits. single calendar up high then years, of fact, strong in the for single this it's the

year, the with perspective, including to RevPAR So the that. in would be expect we first we’re a digits From that pleased for mid-single somewhere quarter.

and between somewhere So X% is X% we reasonable. think

Mark Frissora

that to I’ll to double been the and whatever we've able due projects typically for RevPAR also to that it's two I you is, mention that demonstrate would last we indicate years renovation - room the the doing. we're

to system pricing information Of be advanced real this projects learning projects more and course what And able historically. us to going a changes we we give have, lot we've also actually time actually have versus some had revenue year are some - our on that management.

expect our because in do than the have as enhanced actually we earn to capability. on will through to we be you more it the past here of the margin, able strip on if So pricing we

think that. bullish we're on I So pretty

Harry Curtis

a great. up That's And follow question.

that they’re there you sense demand mentioned in up? curious volumes volumes customers? I'm from how give the your a reason quarter, noticeable us baccarat your a up. trend your And the is, - Can first is You higher of much the are baccarat in

Mark Frissora

bit I’d we say in Chinese Year quite a for than The first was significantly have Asian of had the quarter year. strong. we more that - exceptionally last more New us business

mean higher much So last was than yes, it year. I

definitely So That’s that. business of the we is about the there. - good health felt

Eric Hession

weren’t We just lucky.

Mark Frissora

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Harry Curtis

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Mark Frissora

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Harry Curtis

very That's guys. much Thanks very helpful.


from Your next Jefferies. the Katz from David line question comes of

Your line is open.

David Katz

as talked have of year of or this Hi. about I apologize to Indiana this. those there close? you know And you I ask on when down I the wanted we Good everyone. acquisitions Is and are missed surprises opportunities move any new learned half about about anything the those I sort that road. to expect any the if first pending. afternoon you if update

Eric Hession


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David Katz

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Mark Frissora

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like be other very advantage have, given the of advantage and our the difficult all of of mobile, number take we that feel things locations it. to us does, a in, but we in investing a it in gaming be do general expect good to position the hopeful but we’re strength we're think platforms, that, comments we’ll specifics, to So it. just making of for take than And to give position we some we

David Katz

Thank you much. very Okay.


comes question next of from JP Mike line Morgan. Your from Pace the

is line Your open.

Mike Pace

different of here. Hi. Thank you. couple topics A

the for So first Eric. one

and it growth can new us bond CRC? when makes chance if EBITDA, Any or the you expect credit that the the better share not, for difficult And rates little reporting financials yet, we can a folks. division? So revenue for at group

Eric Hession


package to going XX full a of reporting We’re and in be days. CRC approximately to week information a financials

visibility have that So posted then will it the that’s specifically but lenders. you'll as XX-K, our for well. lag for companywide CEOC, And

Mike Pace

differently a it were EBITDA in down push that ask around and the you Vegas little down slides to and X% press and said XX%. release, revenues more. Maybe In a same-store bit little the

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Eric Hession

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Mike Pace

any again, great. any there of be talked half thoughts this on maybe merge then the me maybe CEOC and to And plans update in asking year, this to would I have first that avoid guess you about doing think CRC? I but

Eric Hession

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Mike Pace

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Eric Hession

take I'll pass. Yes. the first

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sense. having an that, strategy that's make with acquisition so And would consistent

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Mike Pace

Thank Okay, great. you.


of question line next Farrell WF. the comes Dennis with from Your

line open. is Your

Dennis Farrell

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Eric Hession

talk NOLs can about the I start. Yes. to

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And accounting. we so wait complete to until the have merger we'll

Dennis Farrell

and us to give long how Okay. you an do potentially you just outstanding? could convert that stay the update on expect And then

Eric Hession


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Dennis Farrell

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Eric Hession

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Dennis Farrell

lastly. just then And

investors of mean question a we got of on. wondering about terms And I when lot year from I'm does CapEx? just also - big In reform, are international? a acquisitions tax expense current that. terms that make I incentivize mean mean all to first you the in to in you really that’s I acquisitions, handling early your of the versus tax then changes you how are making able domestic or?

Mark Frissora

got to question. analysts line other going is here. just in to and I’m say, get have this the last We’ve that investors

that. go So I’ll take let and ahead at a Eric crack

Eric Hession


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at this subsidies We’re mostly lot we company a a the and international point of of domestic don't others. have

Dennis Farrell

for your Thank Okay. you time.


question. one We last have for time

question line Patrick Scholes from SunTrust. next comes with of Your the

line open. Your is

Patrick Scholes

afternoon. Good

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Mark Frissora

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Patrick Scholes

you. Okay. And Thank that’s it for me.


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Patrick Scholes

Thank for joining we’ll in and of you talk months. a couple everyone to you


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