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EURN Euronav

Participants
Brian Gallagher IR
Hugo De Stoop CEO
Lieve Logghe CFO
Chris Tsung Webber Research & Advisory
Chadd Tribo Jefferies LLC
Chris Wetherbee Citigroup
Jon Chappell Evercore
Kevin Uherek Deutsche Bank
Ben Nolan Stifel
Omar Nokta Clarksons
Eirik Haavaldsen Pareto Securities
Geoffrey Scott Scott Asset Management
Quirijn Mulder ING
Randy Giveans Jefferies LLC
Call transcript
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Operator

Hello and welcome to the Euronav Q3 2020 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host today, Brian Gallagher. Please go ahead.

Brian Gallagher

Thank you. to Call. thanks afternoon QX joining and Earnings XXXX morning everyone, for and Euronav's Good

start, would is I of that information as Before involve I today, November discussed words. a of uncertainties. contain on The XXXX few risks and this forward-looking the and call Thursday, based may information like on Xth to statements say

acting other objectives, critical Forward-looking statements, forward-looking underlying may uncertainties include the and and are financial our available statements on euronav.com. reflect entirety performance risks, and statements their other the performance, in not current are free of factors at SEC, statements which charge company events, views concerning the are which with website on to goals, plans, of respect its with and assumptions expressly on at discussed www.sec.gov qualified All future persons filings and to own the to by reference SEC's future website events facts. or strategies, to statements in company's historical the are behalf company's

to to statements. on or the pass Actual with now over not statement reliance on Hugo Please materially undertakes only the to slide any you. Sir, Slide safe start these our on that, speaks on Chief moment Each statement date forward-looking take the will Stoop, I publicly of Page De presentation. a to harbor read agenda X statements. differ forward-looking as With statement, X. undue of Executive, slide the should to update obligation and forward-looking the particular place no results forward-looking company may statements. You revise from of

Hugo De Stoop

to Welcome our today, call Thank are. wherever you, you Brian.

contract and will highlights to CFO, run and the Lieve, of Brian, terms to statement look financial before tanker the the Euronav the QX the FSO will who firstly full Head I passing balance discuss questions. sheet. on the a of Then income market agenda, market return review before Market before will Research Communication, we at take Investor net our In and through themes the of provide I Relations, our current in outlook

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current was The we freight of trajectory We and been first positive there limited August. in recovery by in demand time early usual early for visibility driven returned rates remains when as QX at Euronav, August, me to was period, management. million, half QX, has split factors: proven had XX% and under given with remain The than have allocation an allocation. our reductions, balanced of the so what that $XXX We we cash debt updated entered robust the always that which in as income the the repay to to point more of X XX% our This which to return committed case is less shareholders oil do as strong in weak this fairly need totaling late freight earned time as try net period over via and is, in dividends and share pressure setting remained early low and cargo not out being. unwound of via buybacks. capital August freight net are owners disruption congestions and At But at held of target into Board given where Nevertheless, during that bank during and supply important this are oil remain amongst constant storage we Both consistent and do brings well Euronav, programs to mandatory income gained to far remains repayment and demand months the QX. stated X Slide sentiment we focus requirements. we with a rates usual, vessel debt facility since this X positive to rates the has XX% past elevated, key some winter capacity of background. seasonal revolving market our cargoes as leverage or some these be with factors the our on not with visibility traction of credit for pattern improving key XX% noncash. our have for shareholders. We the be

than again, intend is available per share third to cash the the dividend XX as quarter, QX. of XX% we end that equivalent the before split that and complete as buyback of of that the For EUR will during we long-term been volatile the XX% million to to we shares, will $X.XX of share quarter. a change a to repurchasing small always giving create price, try renewal one noted is anyway in There program. fleet very rather When support has shareholder our value be which

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Lieve Logghe

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Brian Gallagher

has although led some is back observed onto the to and VLCC level recent things quarters, On year. the recycling remarks. a we rates Hugo when than P&L X% during slightly the and experience breakeven those a XX. cover Slide recycling. Slide several move Thank year On clear, average, of has you, below are now wanted have to fleet we over pick quick have We message when that VLCC Lieve. XXXX departed has since of lower before X rates But been been that There historically concluding more years to for been in calendar trough such rates level. handing rates out X, lower

here challenge do important some very to tonnage You want the older rate faces. slide attached can to this we a the highlight with see purposely it. about busy that illustrative examples and promote What is but that is

older For VLCC dismiss that found the consumed have slide, or older the X we define in and often purposes VLCC; well-known fact age; XX-year-old in this ship. a of mid and secondly, which that midrange a tonnage categories: finally, is market, a which so-called eco an and this. It's tanker more, we investors is one,

financing this However, as we're in, Lieve banks and this expertly gaining with will is to consumption finding regime on additional coming shipping remarks ourselves and pressure and earlier add tonnage. that investors emissions other now the additional emissions from attention her new covered during further older

combined get costs, difficult older the shows key or over of also the not increased in incorporating will any variables tankers are course, Put of just very we on, but are charter dry a X simply, more which, said, very you dockings, including majors oil I which traders, with taken it As have. which example consumption time all that to an will XX illustrative costly be years of engines, utilization older age of higher VLCC on find in by reduced front gets. the older vessel from that vessel focusing costs vessel

that on on of want period is and market that's the lower a trading this can is lead having we see Slide when counts and because of we TCE. to XX.X which there older, to which already And return below add this have over XX, rates global or to conditions to years see years TCEs as OpEx you're to XX% add rates basis, and certainly as have survey have, of on This So wider currently or a ballast survey magnified the XX coupled further this the with VLCCs are pressure go next are freight a seeing XX, you a see any I'll the lower almost fleet already will is aged have part why XX% special a Suezmaxes this move system of we below the can not that for reason XX sustainable will we both the that treatment pressure which when lower costs. now fleet, this over of world that operator XX that age. and Slide aged VLCCs is around is or so, over OpEx months that costs. this will water on tanker of your fact focus through

of vessel in over that, can some the ahead challenges summary owners And you. see remarks significant for Hugo, should I'll and rates older there picture. could to terms remain the to profound slides are being that under sustained now tonnage. of for that some pass the period from freight final You With a that Hugo. some supply over of couple begin driving change pressure

Hugo De Stoop

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the FSOs segment. vessels. Just Euronav sophisticated storage are outside traditional capacity fluids simply that of crude convert crude value reminder, not into are marketable the demonstrates these transportation create units platform as a to also high-quality oil. They This

extension is conclude, remains no and with XX tight recovery Demand Moving COVID on change supply our there bright But agreed lack is Slide to U.S. cuts. traffic the to of is export recent the the lights. muted, OPEC+ increased restrictions, note crude especially and of ordering as sustained the because flows averaged just is on oil a to years with position contract year. time strengthened sorry, venture last XX FSO exports XX this joint past cash day, X week visible million the have our XXXX. line seen below until per The -- over in further where weeks, picture, won financial or levels with this our barrels

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Operator

Advisory. & And Instructions] Tsung comes question Webber Research Chris the [Operator first from with

Chris Tsung

targeted about the enhance strategic it perhaps to a X bit? the of expand able kind of if relationships. there's you And that the to on guys in you Can release, also, wanted to I press profit for said you that any time and the that X share In Suezmaxes you charter years. are sharing? was just little ask rates

Hugo De Stoop

you the We that, took from And think players important in traders as are very our market. very Trafigura. the ships know, good Yes, question. I

to So we deal obviously, directions. them, to in continue both are happy it goes and with

we chartered opportunities. our past, will them the and VLCC to further have explore We in to continue

access large So challenging go And in on to because, sitting it oil. They're one of to obviously the your fact, it's doesn't you crude very in important direction. cargoes quite by have and not market, I situations. and idle Euronav certainly in money that And at cargoes of we minimize sitting level, those things. the finding lot at a pool those to waste in can trying think volumes are

concerned, as think market. was I the the is As reported far it rate in

on is no in So it's There there's I profit of X -- option. sorry, can it's element that. years XX,XXX. tell plus top you, X-year fact, And no sharing

Chris Tsung

And Okay. I to over switch All right. want just Oceania. the to

employing mentioned was were XX% the for guys still down purchase of you last to still quarter your Oceana? plan that X fuel. to cost you that guys And kind -- above volume that what going you plans Are think of average the discounts. Phase I Is consumption of are and on? the purchasing guys about like the

Hugo De Stoop

Yes, mean absolutely. I the story. know you

So life do of the minimizing it we And also rate having petroleum the in then price vessels. products are cheap with when stopped Then stock in we but using we a first end took benefit price vessel much until at is to negative roughly the decide bought buying and from the a at our saw which of February we market was purchasing LSFO NFFO other of price market, from the our oil until it collapse 'XX higher. the the volume. it. down a words, We of the recovery. feed sort mark-to-market. completely all to which taking us help In in the And time, we it blending,

tonnes point, go. X,XXX is otherwise. benefit a or big that, XX,XXX the to We discount, can an that And would XX,XXX applied one at buying We're mark-to-market. a because didn't situation. tons can $XX X,XXX, the minimize not and do at relatively impairment we were in it's see the evolution discount we So from time as you we million. at said the manage We we that minus take worst

$XX an as fact, it program improvement And at this pricing, it's matter down a of through we as if well so million. only LFFO are now million. I And of $X to today, look the as

down price. we operate we program then if whatever And the can that end just between are now And the on I market vessel at the So the to at year, volume if we continue obviously, will price. that dramatically are have not, very market will of current board then hopeful go and under be we explained. the

Operator

question comes LLC. Jefferies next Giveans the And with Randy from

Chadd Tribo

This is Chadd for Randy. on

And drove what reported kind rates, that rates. a So a above this what and Can out Suezmax performance? week? talk you quarter-to-date VLCC the better-than-expected of you guys currently much booking well are about benchmark rates on you

Hugo De Stoop

number part i.e. the you're don't really where I days a you of separately. know, matter we report the believe answer that it's of utilization And of To first utilization. as your busy, question,

the cannot are from I publishing it's So into the today. any explain market. blended TCE other really that that difference we by rate

concerned, is the As VLCC spread what far on doing. as you're market it quite is depending

from you the to cars If XXs. it's above go to going you go China, be about

doing be AG day. you're it's If between or Europe, China a to AG $XX,XXX and more $XX,XXX going like

you more we're voyage, type of always the lucrative obviously, but do do you of or So voyages. trying cannot to do only cannot those

and market $XX,XXX the between average, time be on So being. $XX,XXX the for must

it's Suezmaxes longer are I'm as that. concerned, the than afraid As far

$XX,XXX, So so said far. yes, it's it's similar so we $XX,XXX. have and more very And to $X,XXX we what on average between booked

We bit about are hopeful winter. a little the

So there certainly, also more activity. another will depend on will That be the restrictions. obviously, But normal winter COVID season.

went that almost not in was seen countries You've most back This the of European Asia. case to lockdown.

what it's that volumes the that then what upbeat need and consumption. But were will be a winter to from We're to improve see don't out we it it's normal -- it's it in And relatively decrease there's play increase marginal should to from believe is simply, no we see by So the effect, we how positive not news But into increase, extraordinary. we to we because today. seasonal have where see from would if Asia, we going where States. a going rates. believe in

Chadd Tribo

Perfect.

is XX $XX EBITDA of year for Moving the new based the contribution your per on on, extension. our for congrats on XX% about more math, years. million FSO Kind the contract than

the kind or of Now portion a any INSW? the the assets, on opposite thoughts you clearly from XX% noncore have do since buying and JV other of that's your selling

Hugo De Stoop

is we nevertheless, with options, I something that very that client our certainly it's think we is noncore, It think think the survey that about. and but us that I will provide. contract this gives happy

in on a with -- finished point I XX be. think of to table, only the International this not the entire that I together to the looking going think Seaways, definitely were options in current at is operator, but let's plan anything not is which forget to no selling it So we a And lot if the not at It's years place it's in it's time. to of have bad you the part remain there selling because 'XX. a unit which or do contract, to finished be there's continuation is would

time that bit a at get then So can in and it. value sell we don't to we we the think if have it of we point best keeping about little buck. And the make market get off better value, sure we the where the for

Operator

And question Citigroup. the from comes next with Chris Wetherbee

Chris Wetherbee

loan. to I on the wanted touch ESG

it's in direction terms think moving. I kind is of in financing the the industry of interesting

can moving does commit an an maybe How over for think mainstream now. the a So This detail the sort that over And targets talk situation become? this growth industry much going bit do stands it to tanker has impact? standards for the can that more maybe a a it then sort forward what industry to you kind right little you time? of sort financing niche perspective? see in you you of more question broader Do of time. how fleet guys is as of Sort about from does of emission about

Hugo De Stoop

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a they or basis the a starting in they to So on and fleet XXXX a COX trajectory and take basis. have reduction had guesstimate calculating XX% designed ship-by-ship on

Asian number are number U.S. get banks, growing. So banks -- we signatories certainly It's is that's that board. banks, more and on that banks, of It's Asian it's banks. European the and trajectory this is who a that know hope to all banks there you big also the and

that that applicable of bit name-by-name principles committed more are class they then have so your that is industry? question, idea sign But what And -- to will calculate of affect And is which you sort of of they, publish part it -- the those on the that the that part of so to know emission turn, for this in club, to the entire basis. second a or want the So in the it part portfolio, the to shipping. the answers not select transparent, are little for their everyone do. be I let's kind will look think assets finance. they who be more already of not the in about how the that banks emissions clients best good to you banks a the forget because

evolve mean it's I one and interesting. it's good relatively most than definitely it. around in way looking And there financing, I'm time. reporting be no clause a you that the then or syndicate, sure is forcing the It's who themselves. deals as moment, a of bank involved to is other club if point. there that. financing But publish will So will and all there then shipping the for starting more the a banks of question a investors principles at the is

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those then don't little, not somewhere. all or is to start case anything wait do it's Euronav. at which you drag perfect, those not It's be but need you And if all for very much. the you feet, regulations So your you to definitely principles honestly and

in we this forward, terms I minor ambitious. are loans as with So what be kind this demonstrate a of incentive like and discussed. it they I are with good well nevertheless, would will the least because then as call those guys, kind the the And will will more prefer assets the just start bad finance or environment, for not moving it be of penalty be banks more guys of we hopefully, higher say, generous guys, maybe to to trajectories I of, or a combination and that your good finding initiative to that for outside of that at would priced

Chris Wetherbee

Sure.

for readily time, helpful. financing not the if be choke and market newer guess tonnage potentially the relative sort guess the of there's of new vessels. made it think, for to ties of as potentially And off Could of potentially argument people I I that also sort new for tonnage fleet over of look the growth an to to could drive eco build or incentivize standards is yourself That's either outlook the tonnage industry. secondhand as Okay. that available that vessels way. because for, into capacity well as older I out

is could this stimulate there you about consequences theoretically of in capital how begins this efficient more should you -- might sort new where the of of you form could direction of less too for tonnage? that So necessarily sort just that that of go. industry into maintain Or it the ultimately a unintended there's just angles Are older, want different build assume moving do to couple reading sort forward? to than and balance orders much out you starve think going probably of for some it,

Hugo De Stoop

complex road, sure It's wrong buy down the situation years definitely a if it's going be that ship today, XX the for XX to probably to you years road. maybe the vessel, -- don't retrofit, complex change down if asset. wrong if anything because you the don't you very And conventional know the going or to a it's a you assets be

they a a is question And is people there looking behind emits unfortunately, less vessels. the that have lot LNG. cost chain. second COX, more been more. than there into XX% more because is probably both the what cost but conventional COX. But is So a than fossil is dual fuel far the LNG on environment methane supply decremental the fuel. methane for but And vessels, also Yes, both the it leakage, They in

if studies marginally a so And better. lot there's worse, you is number combine it's are it's it better, saying a of that that,

So there's a confusion. lot of

the because as I we if in has despite there continue the that previous think hoping a are not very their short, the the move that And to single out because cost fact will other showed debate think sort going to is of can book reluctant having is segments cycle. to the tanker a in to you And back that that clearly that transition fuel is almost dropped levels we to vessels. of we to continue case it's see a as maybe the thin. order will be I back okay, one to that need moment, well them sort it's ship at which into dip the then -- can dramatically, we're owner long that as able to is retrofit them at worth dual long of confusion later LNG buying there, conventional stage it into be people be we or is toes direction, and probably this that vessels, every a

order order There people good. still a firm of you in, it's attract thin. number around. it or very look at people. the But are sniffing obviously, that's can normally, So And you should believe the very when real

they a once double if that see or if orders, conventional may are -- think sorry, more there see fuel, vessels we are vessels still I scrapped. will dual we see few and you being

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Operator

And Jon the next Evercore. from comes question Chappell with

Jon Chappell

FSOs selling July them. wanted different the debt-free I 'XX. ask to Hugo, by But way, about a not

how then and with all, And to you expansion? business contract what good XX-year core of the of cash second much the plans pace First debt repay outflows get free? help on debt is existing counterparty, availability And left you what's down are with financing FSO all, additional of there? your a and with to -- on maybe that as the draw to the the

Hugo De Stoop

I -- your repayment. second numbers of terms and part for of question. In today can I I'm the in are as will meantime, what sure So we is where the debt that Lieve the dig of the answer

the well, So even part on open literally they were exactly the maturity been we come on we still this the signed because Sunday. bit before of day we expecting will though answer in the same I are contract mean contract. of are it all, years a for after the we've ahead time, renewal a later I the And in X long working this to little is yesterday second over fact, weekend, way. -- because

part sell can mean price can options, keep can of if to we sell cash on We and table. both find to We assets can wish. we if all they there's party. of flows. every INSW and kind we our will them have the and I refinance share the another So explore them so put We and we buy attractive. --

number both the indeed, So you to July for important there's is ship in options. the know units. will end be is a contract, at that so debt-free of for XXXX current the What of

cash free and So it. there be to possibilities it will be refinance will flow,

certainly in maybe there's opportunity sort at in are them. crossroad arise right cash The what flows, to the and about we be flow about that with the of future. when of fuels Maybe of where have future. of you me, very in this not into to that -- before we looking it's sector, that kind think that we be will think of of visible Let's But amount admit see we our use I this or point the will about right want part to we able is future. of that and production is or things. that is need to we asset are cash the the is write that We will like these are have frequent fact where fuel time a an think at to the the visibility consortium those ship what an we

Lieve Logghe

will indeed, is have let be have million we end we by now And debt of debt-free on outstanding. FSO, on $XX about, Jon, QX add, Hugo, X level XXXX. for of the FSOs And currently Euronav each as we mentioned QX, the me

less So each a of of in we reduce more will level million, order further $XX or year magnitude.

Jon Chappell

more Hugo, typical Great. quarter, ins uncertain world attractive are And values. this we about the then, have leverage, method given your think but in every adding the asset bit become maybe your charter These a especially I things talk in liquidity. of but

out maybe of little there, drop some charter-in are potential a you prior in the the do of bit done you downturns this uncertainty versus Euronav a asset balancing values and how method? So more in it has that opportunity

Hugo De Stoop

a market, you easily asking very XXX And the as over good shareholder almost that more our question. ourselves and are to fact price as Suezmax, that, wish. destroying every despite depth one the XXX the deals are of we It's close of is And have issued It's not than and that find value. day. never very one VLCCs as don't was on know, share that you share well, top doing we we there

user to share, the than we're that do this deal. at so time, in shares point And buyers of of more a

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built are eco to we They so if scrubbers modern X super you a ago. type, They they than year opportunity want use super less have chartering were this And of vessels. had them.

And thought to have some It was good so it we a of very was us longevity. for sort very important deal.

find for that a that's And X-year that where will Euronav, X-year plus option. that's create So exceptional are outside, we but you living natural think And I the think they times. would say, through we way value probably Euronav. of I

and where decided rather take on buy something we that have today. given the We than time explains frustrated to we charter trying with to are continue be share, them why to in

Operator

Mehrotra Deutsche comes And from next Amit of Bank. the question

Kevin Uherek

crude I to U.S. we'll question I like out? for Republican call on It's looking but market. Kevin guess tax on there anything the had and on tanker a like the U.S. implications, Senate. respect implications implications win, see. for election the But Obviously, a no Biden This is increasingly there's is Amit. with exports, real you a production would notable

Hugo De Stoop

most, be with political the honest one to I was hate afraid you. the that ask questions, you would the I

have clue, impact if see president, of be the on have think the I will a and the to Biden you we few the it you Senate until in the election it very to if way is world. a like try have little decarbonization. bit people admittedly, going think have for a guys I the win in would to The chamber, an forceful rest be a to think has patient that it's almost we and majority and more but path it I was

has wave we think Even very that a fact, revolution. think I very, majority. seeing. that have he a to one was the it's the blue that going that predicted thin if given be going really not that a we're to not majority, And I are is

think I have to evolution. an we're going

the frankly, would I economy. be that around of COVID we you mindful quite his this has everyone, not the much very the including think I pretty hitting priority. be crisis when first will impacted world, That U.S. look mean,

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to the he reality going new is to hit think is one I become the if president. the

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Kevin Uherek

you. kind Got focus. then of you. Got And switching

buyback, X%. understand you low. if equity you more to plan the buy? of you've to in I fact, what continue the total trying just what the I'm is share if, prospective buy can shares you can persistently back bought doing think value number and so remains On around

Hugo De Stoop

Yes.

So one time, at would say. thing a I

what plan more. announced next we will and So to we we reevaluate and need have to then do see do if we

split we to decided last being, what the investors, only way. and to For we return how quarter, the we we were earnings by like We did to we time go that have about more the necessary very is did of we our do XX-XX up question that the with XX% the do want but May. to only if AGM, next that, call general usually, next If a annual so you AGM, an capital, on can buy is go program. the committed XX% our do quarter. the we the we -- which before to until you to such have of meeting. was that, happy votes last The get can And

authorization because I are this ambitious be we more offer if today on more. the focused we have then not would too So authorization than that we

to on we received said, recollection, that. never my As I answer negative have

Operator

next from And comes Ben question Stifel. Nolan the with

Ben Nolan

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Hugo De Stoop

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So that was the priority.

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Ben Nolan

profile through maybe those docks release other think, dry-dockings what that what I XXXX that Okay. That's then out? -- forward. that X mentioned pulled, in maybe you thing the in helpful. Can having you been was dry now guys had is for your And the with talk was taken

Hugo De Stoop

Yes.

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Ben Nolan

Okay.

be the of the maybe fourth course to next… from rest over quarter should impact the rather than the quarter So shifting first of

Hugo De Stoop

mean were the X or due for dry That's in there ships dock correct. second X maybe I quarter.

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that if and take scheduled ship of for dock So in instance, decided you them to go were will in we've take May for that December. some them dry December, the maybe

Operator

Clarksons. question next with Nokta Omar the comes from And

Omar Nokta

and wanted crossroads, industry picture in perspective. shipping comments, Earlier to just relation a to mentioned was I overall you at the I big maybe in know your that a strategy just about from like propulsion. talk is

rush opportunities perspective, is past, to choose the the wide and pick happy I'd are not from You we And you you're think a my opportunities, $X.X billion things flexibility got and what and liquidity. in the jump to say, they these you've back, and got to world in evaluate of any as sit the When on of open, said arise. as do.

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So about when the when think crude step, we about, next acquisition, think is that next we the in tankers? say, still

Hugo De Stoop

Yes.

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if it on about the side and you're talking the So side. on a crude large big deal, tanker definitely will be

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Omar Nokta

was to -- for helpful. of these get -- I FSOs. timing a Yes. it us surprise, mechanism a renewal that maybe a maybe a I contract bit there the or a this just It's charters clause on to And a guess, touching wanted That's extension. caused follow-up, to back or see thinking was just it? the of and with Oil, negotiated now? next time in an XX an So came this about just Or to Northern asking discussions with is -- -- sort and that's was you've extension years simply it? to agreement it really announced the simply start on date? why Or you was now bit it

Hugo De Stoop

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Omar Nokta

That's great.

there's off-hire, confirm, one, to the and basically straight no between just just new no goes you're and the into CapEx next... there's So this saying it contract no in

Hugo De Stoop

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Operator

question Securities. And from the comes next Pareto Haavaldsen with Eirik

Eirik Haavaldsen

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Hugo De Stoop

Yes.

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Eirik Haavaldsen

months. coming that With then think -- XX you or you But as Do when X across I agree. potentially then I refraining where -- at mean price, yes, investing? is is share is you think On keeping that to are and if as you the from well, one over it simple No, Yes. that your just may. now, do that. opportunities follow-up, right say, -- look I -- next,

Hugo De Stoop

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deal The share people is a other are us offering not side and at our LNG. you generic if are accepting

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Eirik Haavaldsen

And going to your right. always All I'm be on call.

Hugo De Stoop

Very good. hopefully And asking questions.

Operator

And with the question Scott Management. from comes Scott next Geoffrey Asset

Geoffrey Scott

been Given from on the any special of there surveys? the COVID flexibility has disruptions, timing societies classification the

Hugo De Stoop

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Geoffrey Scott

excellent over were ships in list since X QX, XXX go additional And years, Page guess, How X for You many were broken next those from over X chart actually potential demolition? that went of you years. years. catalyst and by -- put how and surveys those QX, that didn't for was your the XX many quarter. September it's surveys special of It list ships an in out XX down XX you I presentation. on In for on, XX of they X

Brian Gallagher

this. jump Let in, me Hugo, to on

Hugo De Stoop

Yes, go ahead.

Brian Gallagher

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So they're not part of the world trading fleet.

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Operator

And the with next question from Mulder comes ING. Quirijn

Quirijn Mulder

months? I to regard is ING. still is all you is, medium-term do What on. let question the to and say, half in second something you Do let me you the XXXX. see in, speak September me me is that XXXX later Quirijn OPEC+, have Second about question you with Mulder that from yes, question situation the that you improvement. say, improvement Or say, expect forward will then final contracts And about -- -- Can pose offshore store? the your the moves my some -- gone? coming maybe let assuming about when tell the me

Hugo De Stoop

that's So good.

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is one storage. first the So

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Brian Gallagher

is on very In that's which where has terms that fallen number to a months. XX being mean, to of for the yes, out storage. we taken we and going have up we XX stubborn long got way come think, the in those to Hugo's Aframax and XX of we Suezmax down last XX and now, and or That's vessels saw XX about think from But of over the or X been there's saw the about VLCCs we back. X maybe storage, peak June, come think answers, May I

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Quirijn Mulder

Iranian Okay. And about my final is ships. question

that still, Iranian your might to anyway? my me saying say, Is Biden used that from some legal say, Joe take be Egypt not to vessels ships? so the question idle flows a in fine is the political they with oil that cannot country me regard let areas many oil here situation little view, of extra me how wins, let put then expect some So But and used if storage will say, you view. and what's and there? other and in to let or -- are for Are the

Hugo De Stoop

be him, answer If would not to the not going the knows expecting a is give our elected, not here. it not -- be the him reenter to realistic be that expect the And with would priority. be we I were to God would Biden -- and should I arenas. top when if we would we're that Joe start any top to think advice, is have that so going him think probably agenda, well, it of I the we be when of deal

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the to agree they will need they themselves everything reenter deal the done and disclose in so meantime. And that to have to

in months, don't Xst maybe where are in having a or today looking is very next with current our we several gets if a or that's tomorrow the way, the deal which situation be with a but to confirmed my And not going priority the impact Biden of Joe likely today So not I you're for Iranians that to completely market demand as at it's on Monday good, he's is different. through is he's because restriction that that time, or oil January is certainly Iranians, possible, and not -- find maybe when is, a concerned, well, saying, sworn top at year take far the two. think as maybe situation to to going the deal because on

is as far the didn't I fleet yes. As concerned, --

Brian? Sorry,

Brian Gallagher

No, carry on.

Hugo De Stoop

Yes.

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Brian Gallagher

the a cargoes. well. the have it's wider barrels. isn't be on done, back be -- just If the then marketplace we'll Iranian marketplace wider often there'll ships, either. one-way I which those start stealing and come to there's And historically, overlooked that barrels Iranian deal Iranian as this a been think if is final into ships taken Iranian is that's there there's point, trade that a If agreed transaction One isn't Iranian

that is often squeezing be think there an overplayed some this to important think. on. may situation That's I So whilst out, I focused remember, it's also

Operator

follow-up And for Chadd a Jefferies Giveans from on at the next question is Randy LLC.

Randy Giveans

It's Randy Yes. Giveans on. back

was but talked, Just last was that I status relatively Any that we think the storage the on here expiring time October. quick still I think Europe? X TI on in updated a follow-up. contract, short-term

So any updates that? around

Hugo De Stoop

that point. and deals Maybe the we good that have release press those do very it small mentioned here should Yes, considered there. are in we

ship We also same months that have the Suezmax. another at chartered But extended rate. X got out for X

eye the of we we when as market. We keep here are vocal And find but there not deals, sort others, we we and we small yes, good very also on on be an pleased it. the may time So do them. And on charter about that. stuff execute as

Operator

session call. today's you And for presentation. as today's Thank that well as so concludes the attending question-and-answer much

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