Babcock & Wilcox Enterprises (BW)

Megan Wilson Vice President, Investor Relations
Kenneth Young Chief Executive Officer
Louis Salamone Chief Financial Officer
Robert Cathey SCW Capital LP
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Good afternoon. My name is Chris and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Babcock & Wilcox Investor Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Megan Wilson, Vice President of Investor Relations, you may begin the conference.

Megan Wilson

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Kenneth Young

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Louis Salamone

Thanks, Kenny.

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Kenneth Young

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Robert Cathey

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Louis Salamone


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Robert Cathey

any around providing cost, It's that. irrelevant if around not guess corporate but guidance that's I you’re

Louis Salamone

state can costs guidance.. but what we give the were, not Well, corporate

Robert Cathey

Okay, what were they?

Louis Salamone

after into About -- allocated outside $XX other million costs of the segments.

Robert Cathey

and just then, And maybe context what business little happened provide I going and guess, I been on will I have, that Okay, forward? guess, around SPIG if what’s could a what and perfect. you remedied what focus

Kenneth Young

that and to in Yes, parts from a lend -- a on to more the around look that this give should and and both wet the of on around and think the after I opportunities follow-on well. mean, taken conference we sale maintenance into an about grow standpoint, the think be in world tend amount they we many for trying I little Robert just we focused into dry incredible just think SPIG here, product what aspects alluded peeled as or and so to -- high again is, had focused back I are as markets that to overall, markets on call talk level, kind bit

on focus So reduce as in parts we a aftermarket. higher margin wanted those geographies after-the-fact which have capabilities geography the opportunities SPIG higher more type and to there's maintain typically maintenance typically opportunities around wanted footprint, to and or the follow-on return to are them cost those obviously other we

Robert Cathey

it. Got


work had thanks guys. difficult you really hard We getting situation. know all the to where today. Well, a appreciate Okay. I you’re

Kenneth Young


Louis Salamone

Thank you.

Kenneth Young

support. the Appreciate


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Megan Wilson

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