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Mark Mesler VP, Finance & IR
K. R. Sridhar Co-Founder, President, Chairman & CEO
Randy Furr EVP & CFO
Stephen Byrd Morgan Stanley
Michael Weinstein Crédit Suisse
Paul Coster JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Pavel Molchanov Raymond James & Associates
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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Bloom Energy Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mark Mesler, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations at Bloom Energy. Please go ahead.

Mark Mesler

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K. R. Sridhar

you you, Thank Good day, thank for joining call. and the Mark.

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will now to And turn I Randy. over

Randy Furr

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back turn now will I K.R. before we take to questions.

K. R. Sridhar

get teams process. in and extraordinary this work like would Randy during I significant. timely a financial the professionalism thank their to completed results Randy. entire you, and Thank The for and to integrity required was accounting finance fashion our

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Operator

from Morgan with first Stephen question comes And Stanley. your Instructions]. Byrd [Operator

Stephen Byrd

how just sales installation just be little on today, things the know or challenging capability. explore supply from about to just potentially a a the elaborating you fluid the it first future? and business both of wanted bit on coronavirus. the you I would impacts But on very care, think on you impacts the or extent chain that little quite and mind further also I outlooks topic exactly mentioned, bit it's potential predict are to first but impacts further, on touch the and in coronavirus on whether customer

K. R. Sridhar

you as mentioned, it's I dynamic And I That's emphasize here the extremely key fluid. want where and started. to is And important. Sure. thing

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Stephen Byrd

it near term, be just how delays some in Understood. remain like remarkable to customers have potentially very through they I time. sounds there employers requested exactly the their mean could employees home. many plan given in mean thinking business I this

that And got message, I so I if understand I that think right? that,

K. R. Sridhar

days. our own would Yes. on affect And Yes. in turn next depending correct. our few that out suppliers, things That's employees, that the how affect would

It happened. was to emerge is So immediate that end. of extremely we in a crisis, everything in the out when are this this this how strong before but we is look fluid will And term. event going But situation business crisis. short the

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Stephen Byrd

practical being just And latest capable just Would just guess, potential capturing mind, Understood. separate capture. of you the little technical then I through status given COX, for also on, a carbon thoughts the both a maybe of on thinking but question high your think more the the about of about, bit a mean? capturing level, broadly I'm you how business could the the opportunity? at there about of cost thinking uses about that really and just prospects, more what that And just COX,

K. R. Sridhar

Sure.

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Operator

question Your Crédit Weinstein from Michael next with Suisse. comes

Michael Weinstein

about doesn't are It to on understand -- Could margin, more system being ASPs dropped, upfront I color? quarter-over-quarter ASP you guess, the you gross which mentioned mix, improve, shaping and what $X,XXX? the while is Where the me gross here can like system dependent total but your think up -- total main I if down. cost XX% see talk in you little know costs a you XXXX install. to regional I the thing especially looks if you briefly bit it more the give margins beyond? how installed up do -- going? the include see will Is that do installed you it

Randy Furr

Yes.

So Michael, good question.

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Michael Weinstein

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K. R. Sridhar

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Randy Furr

utility. in increase the And

K. R. Sridhar

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Michael Weinstein

you. Got

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Randy Furr

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Michael Weinstein

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Randy Furr

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Operator

[Operator Instructions].

Your next JPMorgan. Paul question with Coster comes from

Paul Coster

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Randy Furr

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of in QX, QX, be best in that in being most orders over that XXXX. booked delivered would a So would orders frame, the QX the time fair that of year. is we November-December this would into And them QX point that be amount at spill of of

Operator

from question last James. Raymond comes Pavel with Molchanov your And

Pavel Molchanov

of a revenue as I I year and came know XXXX, this XX% significant well. imagine past Korea, that in from the percentage

virus currently? SK affected the and Korea can talk impact customers you specifically, Given your are how Korean about relationships being in the with

K. R. Sridhar

Yes. Sure. That's a good question, Pavel.

cadence a process. for orders, they're and Korean and from in the is say are come loads, a C&I with unlike a and sites, would large I request for what there's utility orders base is it companies. industrial the Here utility U.S. usually the to These proposal the

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Pavel Molchanov

I And the update color. Yes. can months the we in appreciate marine we're progress? shipping partnership on quick with guess a Any I of get Samsung? X that now.

K. R. Sridhar

Yes.

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So that the those activities project. are that on forward are particular moving

Operator

to we time the K.R. for Sridhar questions. closing turn the back all call remarks. That's I'll have for

K. R. Sridhar

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we all and your really you for our and appreciate thank company So time, your the support and in faith your mission.

Randy Furr

Thank you.

Operator

joining. Thank you concludes today's This conference call. for

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