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Participants
Suzanne Schmidt IR
K. R. Sridhar Principal Co-Founder and CEO
Greg Cameron CFO
Stephen Byrd Morgan Stanley
Michael Weinstein Credit Suisse
Paul Coster JP Morgan
Colin Rusch Oppenheimer
Benjamin Kallo Baird
Pavel Molchanov Raymond James.
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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Bloom Energy Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants’ lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Suzanne Schmidt, with Investor Relations. you. Thank ahead. go Please

Suzanne Schmidt

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K. R. Sridhar

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Greg Cameron

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Operator

just for compile a Q&A roster. moment [Operator will Instructions] We pause to Certainly. the

line the Stanley. Morgan Your of Byrd Stephen from question comes first from

open. is line Your

Stephen Byrd

Hope are you all afternoon. well. good doing Hi,

K. R. Sridhar

how are Great. you? Stephen,

Stephen Byrd

maybe in couple just both progression? thank just to you. a your terms noted of certainly product in level. federal the thoughts I as commercial interest the own and your first latest in as capture. of product here is, I'm I just and product sort wanted technology support could technical that if feasibility of difficulty] of KR [Technical sort for carbon explore the well the commercial developments interested on and on I'm well, Doing curious your thoughts general the But there on product you potential rollout? views sort at your of development

K. R. Sridhar

great question. Stephen, So, And this is extremely important.

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Stephen Byrd

sense That this. and flex sort sector in sense thought broadly of the I and interested be and would makes make guess TARGO ability to have would I energy the highly mix

K. R. Sridhar

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Stephen Byrd

I care very fast as in needed focus, put density maybe the I we raised. to for important guess power charging. That makes sense. charging, fast about in links infrastructure utilities charging, it's high that, area, it And place to point you my voltage for the And for very point think just other is this, then think EV challenging an

curious here might and could this, of see for So I you this for sort of fast just your to how customers kind the of option I the approach offer, any you to of more certifications needed or of potential was charging? little have product what types from you a sales sort speak be advantage likely bit path sort maybe to qualifications a to everything just of other viable here

K. R. Sridhar

Sure.

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other could able and very depending D&D offer power And there asked customer? it electricity service. large customer. cases, would also the infrastructure want very a different. we the defer to as asset be customers, it in demand with be would some that the local but charges depending that So all an the want be infrastructure, rate it charging also utility utility vehicle, that because I for fleet buying customer In not the the could it. And In And and charging own that owners could charging basis, utility. us people the the on fleet who avoid generation it is fleet the part that'll also case, only cases, have owner could it be in be them, the and come the on the these to the win-win from to could PTA question would you would That's cases, some that only to provide they the places, it imagine be And us, locations. provide to great that be vehicle from they some ideal to of for own corporations In welfare. want but many be a can not the similar the a And and other can it's costs. question. advantages, the the is, that so want the could

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Stephen Byrd

Thanks really very much. That's helpful.

Operator

Weinstein from comes question the next of Your from line Michael Credit Suisse.

open. Your line is

Michael Weinstein

Hi, guys.

K. R. Sridhar

Hi, Michael.

Michael Weinstein

this year, highly this the I course might to update in be the it so… past Hey, volatile maybe to good bookings it once the asked extend lot to midyear it’s year. of pretty for the rest of it wonder I updates said the mean, year year, bookings just get it make to on about think of because a case, updating. year, to you over I know this you're I sense guess going for a a -- make been this I And backlog in see, year. you But lumpiness if the And maybe you've I could a that's of statistic it's the limiting

K. R. Sridhar

Yes.

Greg Cameron

Michael its Greg.

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it make providing even forward if a number. going taken So that don't I’m personally to on I'll on publish feedback take some well and sure transparency we

Michael Weinstein

the service Great, you'd think of profitability, on rate and a than earlier end you also you be profitable, on mentioned run coming in year, it'll the year? that basis expected is be by this

Greg Cameron

Yes.

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was encouraging and in the So, losses past. struggle business remember standpoint that you that the profitability a in big from

turned on business. our we've encouraged and be a like really to to positive feel we're to we the So income. that operating our gross see page that margins to contributor a net And

K. R. Sridhar

this long-term said, what the I of me said, big think industry since contracts you what Ever let Michael, service things and underline all time, concerns and the first of Greg our were right. in for that. and was This me the for you questions. asking mean on right, like one does you just

good grow. that we breakeven And and made, So get us. infrastructure Greg to this be clear we is annuity that. for and what this is And in; put the can going for. is point again, what key will margin the to to I We But emphasize he business will pathway this believed that this see profitability year expect every a to we then year. huge

Michael Weinstein

think margins? gross you do When to you'll get XX%

Greg Cameron

that think original the was goal. I

K. R. Sridhar

pricing we're at so today. Yes,

as go it's towards move deals level not our continue up we out to to the will I that well a and ‘XX that more And the level. it'll profitability, we continued wouldn't mix, as is in ‘XX current cost it’s it's as down not contracts, those and to as take So you a forecasted to in. outset, price commit till we that we'll to continue be at in on as range level, we ‘XX definitely deals and probably we of book move new at XX% maybe get ‘XX that but the profitability, profitable to that

Greg Cameron

contracts or here the right? margins writing are again, And that life of at point the the over key in be contract will expected is the better be will your today,

Michael Weinstein

situation see since needed? you safe be for especially we'll could flow going question, XXXX purchases harbor are cash think positive no a Another to

Greg Cameron

was ‘XX forecast to of our a we see we again, ‘XX. obviously Yes, bunch time time. that that so metric. that variables context, in business, $XX a And that in million different the the our the long in having we've It's I it CFO for investing us And financing components been lot It's there not agree for originally Safe CFO, the with number give where a I come number. to that was spent probably plan. of that that, the we’d forecast, ITC And then new into how on easiest across the tried so would forecast as all metrics it. that publishing it But Harbor. a to invested you is number, you that in not as I

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Michael Weinstein

more question. One it? Got

think in it is the get do at? to Gen in X going Just life record. module service of the And to now? a X.X What's you come where

K. R. Sridhar

Yes, me a give so you on give X.

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Michael Weinstein

very thank Great, you much.

Operator

comes JP from the question from next Your Paul Coster Morgan. line of

open. Your is line

Paul Coster

And much. question. the thanks very Thanks for taking

a the the be at pace sounds statement? Are essentially investing it you to you you Is growing which capacity are think that like can you are this on So market growth support? is growing the rate you the at leaving that year. What table? Could true money master?

Greg Cameron

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Paul Coster

to now? locked you could Is revenues? that is it it do just in simply, upside conceivable you've to XXXX Or

Greg Cameron

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support start So that. we into online that But on a expect like that the and will book, you are to limited build we bit come move and we order growth year. as ‘XX, capacity

Paul Coster

it. Got

little just the market. on bit a international and Okay then

sense to that's moment, career, you you've his just going haven't it of us on focused you the Europe, are? give parts into you know much And so some other else you build customers and markets? to the because, and best mystifies Are to actually at which you happening hydrogen. you've a they little you team talked where still Asia, mentioned got and it so going are So will of And what's hotbed of of come? it. think your your then but it’s follow Can now the prospects

Greg Cameron

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in there our invested, the where As but technology in opportunities there is a you But Euros know, there as Paul, there around especially think opportunity fuel resiliency hydrogen everywhere, Europe, being the are amount electrolyzer. huge maybe especially it. opportunities cell are around definitely we are is for that of not grid, well, strong our for

on well. So France, about Spain, expect we're I you are you'd parts Middle to resources there the I putting about attractive be And think that is the engage, Germany's, begin East, are I Middle on ones the as us the to ground think the East to think of countries incredibly attractive. U.K. think And working the the should Europe, you think Asia the

us. will hearing that very over hopeful been the of that course out, expect year. these I have the those bringing be you for building So I'm about opportunities be And resources would to the

I huge think opportunity. it's a

K. R. Sridhar

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Paul Coster

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K. R. Sridhar

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about we want answer that table opportunity going prudent we line, we it'll to to As think on opposed that Greg market money as people arises. make sure going are what develops, earlier out, to develop into. leave now not than your focusing But are be the to when the top question the watching we the pointed are on to

Paul Coster

Got you. Thank you.

Operator

Oppenheimer. from the Your line next Colin Rusch of comes question from

Your line open. is

Colin Rusch

guys. is backlog much so of the Thanks international of from us you revenue sense expected the Can give a markets? and how much, coming your XXXX

Greg Cameron

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Colin Rusch

an capital out? where And available that model you're of rates right where lot seems would to give to capital And doing at now, that of give your terms in is the you they're thanks. pricing level interest perspective, kind project me pricing Okay, project can then awful enables? sense power a pricing that the what a with It from there's of of us customer?

Greg Cameron

process, capacity. capacity friends hope out very The as on remains it where very the we working our would partly buy to as couple We're from I places the bills that on most to it, with but the improvements that of extend, the inside own we with I to it well, tell for that's price us in sure it, of would we are securing more our work all there's it's by was that. that only that some understand in expect who definitely industry our of so making That's make whole out through create doing definitely that there tax that biggest you on And remains credit and the are help would of that effort driven as not providers make we easier. it's capacity processes some an the not in behalf to of while we're a traditionally, to amount The providers issue ITC extended, So issue bringing ask now. in see capital increase. make the continued it been were outlook, go the decision our it We're marketplace in encouraged that tax quantity but for given of well new capital. the that's capital. there, our I'd to biggest customers.

Colin Rusch

much, so guys. thanks Okay,

Operator

from the [Indiscernible]. comes of question next Your line

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Unidentified Analyst

Good afternoon.

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you going sort could would of ramp little the while far a probably more curious, volumes am how X.X. up of does as I unchanged just manufacturing or about Just on curious, the actual X.X you in talk -- happens relatively be implementation versus existing installation about as you transition installations a advantages X.X? in new are them with do difference out as just X.X make brand rolling to to upgrades the there a it place or all to

Greg Cameron

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Unidentified Analyst

seeing is marketing it wouldn't clarification. new your up far Great, international numbers. the But sales a of be company's income bit business about just and ramp mean forth? it for any needle advance what the realizing again, and little having in good full success thoughts pretty on new international maybe talked there as touch, for and And that thanks expenses, I'm to expansion, a to going sure move in might cycles? in sales hiring, with that the revenues so on more also we're from, you've partnerships from as that chief point distinctive

Greg Cameron

sales but didn't it team. the going year our of in saw Analysts of big in up presence sales as gross show hopefully, technology, our but a investments, will posted from at our out we R&D a improve marketing we're marketing R&D, to We're reference only get XX% a of part our not lay building Yes, Day. margins of going it and that our XX% no, that expense. the lay is we we page out to out we internationally. to our to are to will to making our I in increase be our on, but our part and Not is to what in laid -- investment each as that liquid only you financial part it model And here, included my comments, it part and

to model one SK be use think what I right will to we South similar with we have in true partners, Korea.

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Unidentified Analyst

Great, thanks a lot.

Operator

comes question next from Your Ben Kallo the Baird. of line from

is open. line Your

Benjamin Kallo

Great job.

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K. R. Sridhar

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Benjamin Kallo

you very Thank much.

Operator

time have last question. We one for

line of Raymond comes question from Pavel from final Molchanov the Your James.

open. Your line is

Pavel Molchanov

we Thanks tech level, for one. in ask This one's high of is question. taking low. kind of capital, cost extremely across as the green just I'll see

But wondering, any many ago. terms leasing model years sheet? of revenue in away reviving out You appetite own would on moved of electrons business be the from have Bloom your balance the recurring there the I'm assets nature for

Greg Cameron

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work be out given operating time part, teams up the attractive are built there, company. what there's some we we we to will I'll that's providers a future our our in maybe sheet facilitate take on of to basis, to can over customers, things competitive who do willing where that. most would then them to in is talent capital sources some there space. of build I our the our be in capital and help where where think on application. am a of structures the expertise and which we're we've use new had opportunities for given to some amount them with look new take had at But have partnerships And for some own leave a on have line of especially find capital providers balance wouldn't be if need as great complexity finding we find other different I been areas, and anything, anxious people that apply of can there, help that, probably one that they I'd can't cost the we to or with here, leverage the technology that for few of they'll we've our be the right, it had to that other

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Pavel Molchanov

much. Thanks very

Greg Cameron

Thanks Pavel.

Operator

call for CEO Q&A remarks. turn Sridhar concludes now R. closing the today. for I K. to That

K. R. Sridhar

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Operator

you call. for Thank today. joining everybody today's That conference concludes

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