DFIN Donnelley Financial Solutions

Mike Zhao Head, Investor Relations
Dan Leib President and CEO
Dave Gardella Chief Financial Officer
Craig Clay President, Global Capital Markets
Eric Johnson President, Global Investment Companies
Charles Strauzer CJS Securities
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My name is Jane, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Donnelley Financial Solutions’ Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. begin may you Zhao, your conference. Mike

Mike Zhao

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Dan Leib

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Dave Gardella

Thank you, Dan, and morning, good everyone.

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Dan Leib

Thanks, Dave.

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questions. Now, with that, Operator, for we’re ready


[Operator from comes Davidson. D.A. first the Heckmann Instructions] question of Your line of Peter

Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

on This Pete. is [ph] Dan. for Hi, John

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Dan Leib

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Unidentified Analyst

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Dan Leib


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Unidentified Analyst

it. it. Got Okay. Got

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Dan Leib

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Unidentified Analyst

Thanks it. Got so much.

Dan Leib

you. Thank


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Charles Strauzer

morning. Good

Dan Leib

Charles. morning, Good

Charles Strauzer

with very transactional, obviously, sounds and the charts now mentioned, it quarter, markets QX kind Talk off a it higher looking trends given targets? number? a there conservative, of strong could de-SPACking guidance, for be just we’ve maybe bit So, the really that just about and like got ongoing IPO your was a and little you to seeing in the QX we’re market, here like, more M&A, capital guidance a plus at looks companies XXX the your cause right what tad looking the

Dan Leib

Charlie. comments and add Clay the will guidance some on then, for have here. Yeah. color QX some I Great, Craig

So as we activity robust we fact continue in our October. -- did said through prepared see in the remarks,

little but at the start the were outperform August, chance in doing you made second If bit. there? certainly these I part quarter of visibility, amount the October, to that that in Are seen right, of extent to comments a you the the at have about the guidance, activity that you’re throughout levels that remains limited transactions, a the the we timing we’re hedging call, would we that, have we still saw that we’ve to similar we up given against visibility, where and ramped say we the obviously, when QX the It quarter. least what back remains rewind and July,

Craig Clay

to that. that, the looks think build be I and market, same of look more David, October So, to to of we’re regardless to on going outperform the

combinations. mentioned are at remarks numbers pending SPACs are their in SPACs the and SPACs XXX XXX for that searching in their XXX business over that You the registration over look just There’s de-SPAC.

increasing and So caution, off pressure. pre- still But aftermarket and creating an one perfectly certainly QX aligns QX. that’s of it the backwards our There’s far stories QX. recent for the of value could Dan described. is is an post-acquisition reasons performance downward increase that here SPACs, real ecosystem, the lackluster over with cause IPO, companies position SPAC saw this public It’s of both

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to supporting using de-SPAC reporting. Looking new recurring ActiveDisclosure revenue compliance powered for contracted someone much for is their we company artificial complicated a have Dan DFIN by and the formal with then that intelligence, as deal said, acquire, public then more new

we’re ready So, wants for what QX. be market excited we’ve to market and the built, we’re going any for

Charles Strauzer

That’s helpful. what you’re my is a uptake IPO next segue the the de-SPACking high you really think actually handled that it for, you’ve great SPACs those uptake process very are And kind from is the rates you into with of do seeing and regarding through de-SPAC companies? from now,

Craig Clay

question. find using you do your they a are that uptake, target of, forward? say When or clarification on they us going Just expand maybe

Charles Strauzer


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Craig Clay

Got Correct. it. Yes.

SPAC a are typically is much SPAC. we the handling The So document. smaller

Charles Strauzer


Craig Clay

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up that we’re SPAC So picking we or de-SPAC did not do. initially

Charles Strauzer

you. That’s And… Great. helpful. very Thank

Dan Leib

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Charles Strauzer


Dan Leib



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Charles Strauzer

margin the excellent. of look to more kind better That’s modeling QX obviously, EBITDA information incremental core a the about to as your us Great. call give about QX I here segment you in the Thank again, guide Thank think saw well? you during should of haven’t talk to from thank about a tables, you out more benefit kind but that think we recurring sense kind for can you, through bit in of little well transactional, very how really the had by much. those as the and chance a maybe you how yet, putting tried and of revenue it,

Dan Leib

it’s incremental not I you about and Charlie think Yeah. just clarify, driving to it. the that’s revenue, think when all transactional

growth seen you when on the incremental excellent look solutions, at the we think get we’ve I there. margin software

when think I perfect platform as between in of the it’s look storm just margin. software kind higher and transactional, as the reduction at, print, build print increased to increased the mix well print the revenue, overall the and less you

now that, of to of our of Communications things on the software just the costs fully-loaded comment those Compliance an too in want to One basis, we from I pushed some from comments the & of a prepared margin look remarks allocation shared the perspective, software get GIC you some year-over-year at, shared is, segments. some decline if given the Management, in cost, segments made the a

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Charles Strauzer

Great. helpful. very That’s you, guys. Thank

Dan Leib

Yeah. Thanks, Charlie.

Craig Clay

you. Thank

Dan Leib

Thank Okay. will the see With we QX February you no for more questions, in you. call.


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