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Mark Oswald Head, Investor Relations
Doug DelGrosso President and Chief Executive Officer
Jeff Stafeil Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Colin Langan UBS
Emmanuel Rosner Deutsche Bank
John Murphy Bank of America
Joe Spak RBC
Armintas Sinkevicius Morgan Stanley
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Operator

Welcome to the Adient First Quarter Earnings Call and thank you for standing-by. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer portion of the conference. [Operator Instructions] Today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. And now I’d like to turn the call over to your host Mr. Oswald. Mark you sir, begin. may you, Thank

Mark Oswald

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Doug DelGrosso

investors and joining Mark, the this morning. Okay. thanks for our Thanks, analysts to the call and

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progress expect we the as can You on subject updates through the year.

Let’s turn to Slide X.

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Jeff Stafeil

Great. everyone. Doug, good morning Thanks

Turning to our financial performance.

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down held Unconsolidated the ownership Seating X% region. when our of with Strong the as FX. our double revenue year-on-year conducted production recognized was strategic that business helped was interiors our unconsolidated for FX. unconsolidated outcome roughly mix to primarily the our Network important Moving in revenue, up production digits on for when and QX customer outside Yanfeng down regard in XX% in well quarter. is stake Automotive good through adjusting of remember result Adient’s in China. to outperformance SS&M diversification Interiors market. down X% A overall It JV relative China for driven Adient’s versus was adjusting through Sales to is XX% drive the for

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business the million. for roughly quarter, $XX the spent CapEx SS&M's Regarding

me now structure to Let on XX. cash our capital and Slide shift

earnings of restructuring million, $XXX outflow an million million of cash flow. defined increase was was This an last lower left lower flow, the customer by we $XXX the the the free tooling Adjusted were compares $XXX bonus operating costs, an in for an outflow $XXX quarter with of impact cash for side down year. and of page, last On less break our to cash million quarter. as CapEx, year. of payout. expenditures The negative recoveries, absence a offset Capital compared flow

can out see break we footnote, the CapEx segment. you As to in by continue

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December cash we the and Gross XX. ended with and equivalents. debt of net XXXX, billion, As of XX, $X.XXX December cash as in totaled debt quarter billion $XXX million $X.X and respectively,

X.XX leverage XX, level, December result performance, of Adient's cash and times. our debt a As operating at balance, net ratio XXXX was

Doug's to replacing Speaking credit difference A, $XXX leverage stability, $XXX a morning. leverage thereafter. secured Adient's the secured the earlier million, net roughly facilities. ratio our agreement QX secure our secured ratio. billion refinance million The outcome. and at of The XXXX, million leverage One billion steps income the and and end, were XX, point our just $X.X X.X facility, of an is the total based flexibility, includes The ratio financial net note $XXX netting and At dividends and the for Details secured X.X in a the Term times and resulting last EIB last million, team our interests. options months net eliminating roughly income previous the of was X.XX agreement adjusted calculation European debt eliminating equity position net X.X calculation as amendment million $XXX factory adding The our as billion. bank provide debt cash, up post-quarter times December times times. net comments, our earlier amendment. over between on net $XXX to of loan, the the X.X credit various $X.XXX amended at we The leverage following and XXXX close, totaled LTM Loan maximum covenant, quarter EBITDA EBITDA financial and the covenant, bank-adjusted totaled from bank-adjusted facility. includes company's the per caps of times $X.X follows: totaled down senior of subtracting cash which primary totaled and to XX fiscal strengthens filed amendment pivots QX of on the received the cash minority and approximately credit in explore on this amendment X-K liquidity should This company's leverage of

let to conclude to settle for fiscal XXXX. headwind, last and expect Moving million expected revenue on a in of production range. movements current me on XX, be the what decline few the primary Slide in we forecasted expect is with expected approximately which to foreign to thoughts compared plans vehicle to Based is year. $XX.X billion The to FX, $XX.X driver $XXX billion in year-over-year exchange,

to a water in XXXX half. and the is to half China in adjusted reduction results compared regards is expected in our expected of impact improvement degree. expected the adjusted full-year to business Despite in Europe complete to to year, With lesser the second a in first revenue, lower be full-year conditions is market mark, half also low of Softer XXXX. back but EBITDA, improving with much seat expected be fiscal EBITDA the to

sequential SS&M adjusted to decline to to up basis, Doug the being just to the lines executed, eliminate earnings look freights improvement gives quarter similar half's Seating QX show compared our early confidence will commercial As manual shaping the us expected our to on our performance, such premium first QX, To very the improve the of and benefit modestly, completed. half. in our to is read has is help quarter business recliner mentioned, On EBITDA dimension while at operational a second actions and in ability as expected quarter-over-quarter. Rockenhausen,

clarity actions, to gain China operational on month, the the updates just the a and of Detroit the improvement as tariff and the pace commercial headwinds, name of provided as be few. volumes, the in last such key conferences investor will discussed on we As pace at year additional through variables,

is it expected million finally, a million $XX the adjustments, although an headwinds, are to the year; million In or will quarter last aerospace benefits factors, global $XX operating year, spending be performance; SG&A Adient in including repeating be versus elimination other and, our year-over-year absorbed earnings costs weaker in be last dollar, versus impacted year. expected spend Adient's the per operational to $XX variety U.S. addition currencies versus call approximate not following: to of the expected headwind; be by becoming of which XXXX, to are increased temporary the for about lower

XXXX, reminder, we the As funded will in share. the while other million year, yet, will a million, was $XX we net million. spend expense, Boeing of the had and so about continue formed only JV $XX not same, $XX for Boeing to their reimburse roughly This

still as will are consolidating the However, we reported entire we in business, $XX results. million have this

Moving on, to to tax effective range. be low Adient's expected rate the high-teens in XX% is

losses modeling XX%. were rate previously due call in is year allowances to it higher valuation versus For The jurisdictions purposes, of benefited. effective where establishment certain last the primarily the

you does fourth note, by the If quarter cash recall, not impact of year's the rate results valuation significantly impacted our the allowances. effective establishment last taxes. higher tax were to Important

one total in significantly to million, on cash I'll in expect to last modeling, additional expenditures year. For $XXX impairments for compared on deprecation than and On cash XX% out Because note, impact year. million of taxes of we were taxes, XXXX your our our expect point million as fiscal QX to the decline mention to our withholding to the XXXX, on asset we item last will for year we about have year's asset it side be the the One related JVs called lower, $XXX an more last year-over-year. from for a $XXX expect range tax taxes dividends write-downs, And JVs. the cash consolidated to capital payments relates depreciation. with

question, smaller the let's current by expenditures the Operator, on we of opportunity can current Although years, plans. the to driven reduce move portion capital in that, to expenditures out please? the year SS&M see have supporting we year launch are business, our a With first question-and-answer call.

Operator

Our from comes Certainly, question UBS. you. at [Operator Instructions] first sir. Colin Thank Langan

Colin Langan

were color there something And Any lot you debt come Great. Are still is my refinancing. or an mean, that's about the side any question. a at that to thoughts, there is more on the there's – talking I Thanks the actions done for of Detroit? you about on highlighted taking you table? chatter that equity debt raise?

Jeff Stafeil

That debt of was gives Thanks, facilities, are to goal while markets is to Colin. the is, term to our of maturity The really the the certainly do still is It We it reason XXXX. loan, thought amendment gets prudent refinance through Colin. us that choppy. The pretty amendment. us middle opportunity credit primary refinance. our the

would sometime from soon. So, maturity market the out need go we just to a standpoint, certainly extension to

for So, us here quite intention on us this still and gives would the gives to bit room, a flexibility out look go flexibility and timing, more be but refinancing.

As was that, capital for sized comment it comments, earnings. level different relates structure a our structure of to I'd obviously, capital

we are, is As we at plans. just able and time. has more making turnaround on to should us through our turnaround, amendment our flexibility, the be refinancing. focused us, operations obviously, improving this we of point, little the execute the de-lever bit execute The etc. earnings. primary And company a to the on liquidity, focus gives But the sure

As equity, that's our it relates first focus. not to

the just on the macro of paths of in first I'd looking opportunities, is environments at given uncertainties all the focus we're but turnaround. our some internal specifics markets, and Our say that the debt obviously sort and definitely of

Colin Langan

about progress And that Any there? any any the and revenue you've on is update talks of mispriced how past base it. and in started is color, business. how big there a Got talked those

Doug DelGrosso

sorry, Colin, to? I'm segment business were you referring So, which

Colin Langan

think some the I of discussed you've mispriced. in past, the were how contracts

Doug DelGrosso

mispriced. Oh,

Colin Langan

are how At I billion sizing initial was framing there's to if started? ever been going needs think $X that this and business of they’ve to re-discussed. of get customers. the those discussions Or a it don't refer And of

Doug DelGrosso

in back the America. of and on to Seating quantifying hold SS&M, North a specifically. I'll been business degree, it, our obviously, discussion has focused most So, certain

handful I programs. the it's a of think in what past, we've customers of on said handful a

resolution, tremendous established a really now. get customer you of until detail what our our prepared those through – we the discussions. specific including a amount throughout We're in widespread right of business, So, up, we'll but We've get those we into fair not on where clarity the think know, it's talks midst end we we're entire really not think SS&M. to

you it's some us publicly And way. if As and confidential mentioning quantifying pretty and to say appropriate we'd success. can it's know had initial I that we've be imagine, for that don't it

I think of that in some reflected has been QX.

some we've think really, more have improvement work. on is the that we we've better I a in of got seen year-over-year go, a on in with the get But, expect that. also some reflected want later we'll basis SS&M. lot to to visibility performance where And I would year,

Mark Oswald

our have we can question? Operator, next

Operator

sir. your Rosner, Certainly, is line Emmanuel Thank you. open.

Emmanuel Rosner

Hi. everybody. Good morning,

Jeff Stafeil

morning. Good

Doug DelGrosso

Hello.

Emmanuel Rosner

Hi.

second So, EBITDA my your better I'm a first first question is half. what bit of better to understand the underpins view a than curious little half

was So, know of way what's as of for arguably, highlighting the in you on you the of Because, fiscal I Maybe is first that evidence that the it. as improvement were soon that that results actions also quarter, approach half? don't improve that there Slide second plus specifically, some the X and see, days. bear in best to would sort What little XXX first it yet?

Jeff Stafeil

to conference At we little in by a broke of analyst it segment. Sure. down light business we and on bit the January, that attempted shed

were standpoint, plants doing from what on, on an business material we just projects from restructuring what for each we we launch were we economics, overall what standpoint. an uplift underperforming had, activity what we commercial were had in we So, segment, identified place, where focused

timeline out we we SS&M, that and laid years. and North out and Asia, And against extended American out Europe that Seating, mapped so, it a couple a for

end year, with we we'll I year. that take the place think that right And the the way will executing to performance balance that subgroups, the fiscal of and improved think we're see start for it the year. now. as we of benefit get this of of one move there's each into the next is, of to to into specific those translates as That actions

Emmanuel Rosner

don't – Appreciate this, of but level, if I'm for point promise I specifically, the and a good maybe appreciation a plant-by-plant restate from what us. earnings. on to view magnitude just you the drag just want have that of, a I on of high-level is, what guess, the

you of Is when the you drivers the of just you're commercial having fiscal launch would problems drivers so, right rank go half rank the will customers year, sort discussions you gone it of I'm with And have second Is biggest curious, Sequentially, that of away this look at already away? improvement? how now? that the the improvement? biggest of would it or sort how

Doug DelGrosso

So, we into I think, consistent negotiations. the to dependent much said very easier to think, they're because anticipate ourselves. we've made split we issues, issues us for execute with on I I comments roughly think harder predict until operational they're commercially. in the and past, say operationally would are commercial that little actions further bit can a The I are get we've the

Emmanuel Rosner

think of we factors the of into the I then sort to focus don't macro. second And Okay. what have uncertainty the just, finally, in half? are going terms of on

half? of that prevent factors still the giving get uncertainty specific your you is, what lot a macro from And think your but I to guidance assuming more understand to view, a of are of second what and what volatility sort us then the are guidance? within you specifically better

Jeff Stafeil

but too be you that included still there. the the to half crystallized central think the market getting ignoring to the in So, market, certainly, the year awaiting anticipating much said that's macro We're performance government on the without I has specific, an develops. in completely discussion. second in improved not macro, stimulate action we're of area China, that how

that there number impact an looming negotiations could been our have also have clear Tariffs lot We've We've tariffs, commercial could again, particularly a so we certain and the on how it's some the on a steel, got in degree, general, economics or discussions issues not, impact protected/hedged customers to crystal seen a had things inclusive in the anticipated improvements but, with but in are that of We've We our think how plays – those again, out. customers but that, it's made our clear but our like Brexit. are business. are to material that. that as be Europe, those in UK we're somewhat on think of macro have I that. not You call you but in activity completely certainly impacted factors, talk the to we trying of plays can to our some macro control, the by those We've customers. of comprehend we're out out. that

Emmanuel Rosner

Great. you. Thank

Jeff Stafeil

welcome. You're

Operator

from question of next Johnson Our Brian comes Barclays.

sir. Your line open, is

Unidentified Analyst

good is the Hi, Brian. [ph] on Stephen line Yes. morning. for This

of follow to Colin's some lesser enterprise a contracts. Just question these to to on commercial Emmanuel's extent, and, around

at step-up $XXX backlog the the backlog XXXX. look million front billion the decent about in If consolidated from you on a XXXX was Seating that we $X in see of last disclosed, to about

at the have pricing? So, changed in I of and XXXX of expect could of to contracts backlog step-up percentage the half seen backlog might in able XXXX of of figuring those understand was is the last do some to some in in be first just and since into and terms through visibility point underpriced? have that the backlog, what XXXX, but that underpriced potentially extent XXXX wondering you out I'm gain what what As greater been go you update, here that to

Doug DelGrosso

Sure.

amount spending in of we're a area. tremendous particular So, that time

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approach we and we commercially now. got more the we've way issues the program much right the the a through in manage development, we of so to dealing with we're way So, discuss problems disciplined some back avoid

because feeling scale to what the the is going confident here. on last and going to be over that particularly I'm ensure why coming and this years mechanisms our backlog gap that performance that we're we've return. you – on more kind that We're that's performance we we customers. more the get indicate, business, what's to a to we on down talked with we're closer in two indifferent, bring unfolded business of expectations to metals to kind our managing business far back of and way okay business about. prior business we're of has normal be our to the not aligned with returns that's with creating crisis we're our want much And of proper line got going on on And So, will a to the if

it where level. that just see we've execute pursuing levels happening, haven't there's historically, think at concentrating don't we of expectation customers performance business appropriate we we're profitability, we demonstrated and been pricing of where where, where, customer to our better understand much the the and efforts able reasonable or we an not historically, we're So, we're that

Unidentified Analyst

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Doug DelGrosso

a Jeff of have a BMW business at we Yes. hit the about. successfully on namely that pretty better at beginning that But call. returns that a cycle. lot Japanese environment. two-year in that We to we level tried to awards, to be formal program a comments We think so much there that excited won and progress mid-size on we F-XXX to specific, weren't there's priced was We're go major work be although through we the have business, development our of us that of we pointed the how done. development the awarded still competitive the but SUV couple I point a to we're X-Series who in confident able customer handle very a in through a

We experience prepared, products, My book that. your understand has we're pretty been, with a any can our a customer, have And backlog. it's understand you're you're So, period. if significant act. through you navigate get impact to your without existing business. But having on will, if intelligent discussions or we you there of priced impact, this if that. I have having on to balancing fairly determined

a So, concern that's not on part. my huge

those seeing of aspects waters I The structural think not we can comments and business gaps. effectively. navigate our about competitive

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Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you.

America. Our next sir. Bank from comes from of question John Thank you, Murphy

John Murphy

this, to you a is? operating looking talk that about think and through When on X% the at mean, the margins adequate margins been side, peer are could return SS&M, we but from Good that, X% what and and morning, generate think where and I will you good mid-teens you, kind mine I as returns? Doug. going I invested adequate capital. Seating do you you think first question. do the to Seating guys, adequate level I'm think about curious, hear you're guess of I levels stuff like Doug, the level just mean, mean, is? adequate it, where has

Doug DelGrosso

Yes, formally I a come don't think with number. out we've

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John Murphy

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Doug DelGrosso

a To little extreme. bit me, that's too

I think it's about execution.

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John Murphy

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Doug DelGrosso

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John Murphy

Okay. Very guys. Thank helpful. you,

Doug DelGrosso

Thanks, John.

Jeff Stafeil

Thanks, John.

Operator

from question Spak RBC. of Joe a we Next, take

Joe Spak

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Doug DelGrosso

a could look way think I that's it. you at

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means scale to come look we As business, the down. revenues down that will our

about that a year a a so about we're You two-year year began ago out. that think should in timeframe. And

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Joe Spak

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Doug DelGrosso

part two different technology. That's quite The frankly. proprietary of truly are our product mechanisms of lines, kind business. They're recliners

to lot expensive in Series past capital. Series mechanisms business. we've good And the have converted year at was we the our And price presentations a undertaking, launched We of the we market that of specifically related all XXXX our a to series. problems understanding that is. had, That an what talked of from think this was were XXXX and XXXX launch of new Rockenhausen, the I

share And needed backlog year is lot to that that to slightly those a backlog we've talked slowly of place we put employed the and address joint capital that of issues. technology, is different number going platforms. we've In lines across a many the to That proliferated this not common of a that The to intended expense. was created customers made Rockenhausen, investment there. proprietary designs. we originally that from commercial being still different scope a a design Some We freight. that and our about is in with difficult deployed XXXX. lot it's in architecture certainly activity development more of to worked expensive to manual That's It's is half issues be And happened a change of through it premium much led our through discussion launch. our an in of big What's had as with problem, that it's that development couple made it was it's customers. the had the into standpoint. first a of a us impacting different more common has launch be

common achieved on the improvement problem So, side, now you're It's the recliner architecture significant on offset and we our on the not metal a basis. of issue with improvement mechanisms a year-over-year as we are solved seeing grappling this we a and side. lot why a that's on new

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Joe Spak

the necessarily expect. the a not for variants you getting commercial that common initially and that issue it's It's a So, different volume pricing didn't issue evolved architecture. on the

Doug DelGrosso

that volume's through from volume the perspective not increasing it's volume the It's the go but launching definition. traditional we're issue a in launch, as we and

Joe Spak

you. Thank Okay.

Mark Oswald

have like Thanks, Marcella, last it Joe. looks question. one we time for

Operator

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Armintas Sinkevicius

with the Great. congratulations for X-Series. Thank the wins BMW on the you and taking the and Ford question F-XXX

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Doug DelGrosso

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Armintas Sinkevicius

else been anything recent of how they've about? Okay. and are what the maybe customers and issues, given providing them And comfort that flip that are question of is, with side focused on, asking sort the launch you

Doug DelGrosso

business. to strategy on want us a want are anyone, look and obviously, at on to to execute. you arguably, focused delivery. when customers. well. way you a things customer customers thing They conversations got Our overconcentration, business. us and the recently, a be of level always up on stumbled technology, what's not the the have most capability, region at valuable extremely have we've want look and seating really our We're They what supply focused lot but our want at in They and, them. to when the do We, our to against they're us want on. diversification in with They within happening want We of cost-competitive. pretty same candid our in stand within to look when quality our our certainly, us you transparency fundamentals They understand business They focus is. asset

of to don't offer had done necessarily better to and them a profitability extremely – we them. overly have out get to eager win this our do every promote And, And, so our commercial business distraction we, I allowing We them. to focus priority, just but again, it executing, strong we with need to varying communicate is growth that's lot this I seems what, the focus, engage But to customers, to but the back deploy sustainable. the think sense And for have there's an get a get have right maybe business. historically, oversimplification, operationally to well. where quite to to where think discipline correct and is and candid, to taking not it's all time. to have we being backlog make at to intelligent with on our what both way frankly, not have problems, is good, which we'll So, the of time, all issues we top we'll discussions back we is this sides. you degrees, to level This but customers and our team, for

Mark Oswald

time, Unfortunately, much participating. you thank that the will conclude morning. very so out we're call for Again, this of

If you follow-up to have don't any questions, call. please hesitate

Doug DelGrosso

you. Thank

Operator

Thank disconnect all lines may today's and you does your conclude participation at conference. your this you This time. for