Alcoa (AA)

James Dwyer Vice President, Investor Relations
Roy Harvey President and Chief Executive Officer
William Oplinger Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Timna Tanners Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Alexander Hacking Citigroup Inc.
Christopher Terry Deutsche Bank
Matthew Korn Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC
Piyush Sood Morgan Stanley & Co.
Lucas Pipes B. Riley FBR
Justin Bergner Gabelli & Company
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Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Alcoa Corporation Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2018 Earnings Presentation and Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] And please note that today's event is being recorded. And I would now like to turn the conference over to James Dwyer, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

James Dwyer

good and William, you, day, everyone. Thank today Chief Executive joined and Financial by Executive Roy and President Chief Corporation Alcoa Officer. Officer; President Harvey, Vice I'm and Oplinger, William

your and take We by after Roy will Bill. questions comments

and As in a forward-looking to caveats. our to events materially in future results Factors subject these will today's that expectations are are the assumptions from statements to Company's that actual relating filings. and various today's reminder, discussion presentation contain and included may statements SEC cause differ

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Roy Harvey

Thank you, Jim, and thank for joining you earnings call. everyone today's to

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William Oplinger

Thanks, Roy.

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back with to So Roy. it I'll turn you, that,

Roy Harvey

Bill. you, Thank

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the will now the be Bank ahead. Instructions] of Thank Timna question-and-answer will America first session. And we [Operator questioner you. Tanners Lynch. today of Please And begin Merrill go

Timna Tanners

Hey, New guys. Year happy

Roy Harvey

Timna. Hey

Timna Tanners

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sensitivity So are could what I reflected getting the you that are? hoping of earlier? without Are components and discussion those Or beyond too the us sort minutia, help Bill through guidance? already gave something those of For the you into example, in something or was kind above the be tables that is charts or and talk is separate? that's pricing, already would those in your that mix about that when

William Oplinger

a it's little combination. bit a of probably Timna,

of see stability about So the of we alumina, and if operational it run out through the highlighted some it, improvement first talks we we difficult all, we which expect times that had the briefly – to and this just expecting the saw up overcoming mix of fourth column. – price picking on some quarter alumina year in of negativity from we're the some picking the to we of up the that, recover some that we're

or two So into right. products million next alumina flow-through an is estimate there, don't like spend you rolled $XX picking going on in and smelting the then flat to And are really giving the a We of sensitivities, first that's you maintenance up million. give outsider sensitivity $XX what of quarter. the look the

you. very, provided so last about second raw a going to very we've raw difficult materials to There's around raw where is end It's the right materials here for the So that then uncertainty And much materials. now. are year. one predict

the just what trying of And to we've you is prior they guidance profit quarter. really substitution like the bullet to for So look given the then out intercompany a around first we're point elimination. that last point in some

now off of I that You in comments. LIFO. alluded know that we're my to

So LIFO is now gone.

is help something understand different profit this the So prices. just intercompany you where will be API that on based will elimination

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Timna Tanners

going the helpful, landscape separately. conditions. forward detail was year, know, wondering, But I'll know in more about you market to the And where Company's in go I that That's Okay. advances just through in wants talk and it's you about current the then Spain. over I the footprint talking fresh be as that about had really just, past it me thinking

refinery restart You've on to in talked potential the the Brazil.

talk the circumstances? the in the less Spanish is for can any give on Canada. impact ideal producing little footprint this us you you Can Thanks. how shutdown current Company color in you And the about that footprint evolving see a of or the operations? You're bit for the

Roy Harvey

Yes, Timna.

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the So was basis, smelter, lacks sort Brazil example world. that the that to find inside That's outside and a shift on of you can relatively zoom contract ability quickly. it both a Brazil. that when power market regional makes a a in this government to in competitive And on both case-by-case negotiate of also you depends but national then Brazil and mentioned conditions relatively on Brazil It's depends where and of so something been look on of with in It depends smelter. that it power today's real. long-term our have idle It competitive government, one at contract. and we the Brazilian

longer-term look and see each our times any can continue to see at we We we part we on where parts, cost restart, actually strong portfolio a restart and failed choose like today or do relatively make aluminum to particularly that to things. there a which our we again, justification electrolytic we exercise or of whether at what at is for weaker to alumina much is choose to a whether all them two prices facility. this additionally, bring when the line whether look back one, at variable a Number curtailment do stronger, and we locations prices, important make of look also sure of becomes to them very

your rather a to question. answer long-winded So it's

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Timna Tanners

that. for Okay. Thanks


Alex the Citi. Hacking next be will ahead. And with go questioner Please today

Alexander Hacking

around question the the would adjusted first guess Thank Yes. the question. be goal. net you I debt for

You on payments. I you mentioned just mandatory or Would get minimum the to Thanks. cash just to accelerate those what can above that in pension trigger be trigger what on free that you OPEB based would based levels? to that flow target levels guess would pay target? order it you

William Oplinger

Alex. Yes. Good question,

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get the So net achieve return why the assets if be us mandatory hey, discount there considerably we putting we debt or on on should if basically the out we able rates change that's contributions. with expected saying, need it but to contributions, target don't we are to make would

Alexander Hacking


this or anticipate to voluntary contributions XXXX in just asset unless therefore no would performance? So clarify, year unexpectedly making you there's poor

William Oplinger

of sheet. considerable choose amount pension considerable to But on would be of this is, able to into level mandatory. at point, a in that pension the only anticipating that XXXX. take We the further off caveat in billion whatever, of would done balance the Yes, not de-risking, cash the have $X to that beyond if the contributions liability I plan some we do we contributed de-risking make I'm the plan we've

Alexander Hacking

in half. it you rolled. on in would but first then my expect quarter comfortable first be a you last be a commentary Okay, I $XX rate? And the the that you you say it the million did call that, quite Are of the quarter, still the weaker just question second guidance last I run weaker than that with to flat on bit that thanks. noticed in around gave guess

previous that is guidance still So good?

William Oplinger

gave little quarter be as And say, the of $XXX $XXX bit will weaker year. We're the we for fourth. year. targeting million first We guidance about for the previous than million the a still for Yes.

Alexander Hacking

Thanks a lot.


And questioner the next with Chris Please today go will Bank. Terry be ahead. Deutsche

Christopher Terry

Hi, year? you're $XXX of the in XX program just the in Roy and latter and off feed buyback you're remaining also fourth just cash. around the the for of that Alex trying just On Yes. you XX, of Slide to wanted the in question you tying excess the back the Is to bought cash required Slide million the now. Just program the was the the XX that actually $XXX speed against asking generating dependent on still terms prioritize are minimum the other that EBITDA mentioned to Bill. actually that quarter. what Thanks. and flows have part I buybacks the an of the you get this going buckets how pension during million you time that of spend to at entirely buyback the spend idea and on

William Oplinger

on excess cash. based so it be Yes, having will

hey, it having capital out we'll long-term opportunities cash shareholders, answer translates I framework, cash. delevering options cash, is a the weigh will that that's And as ultimately of course have think into looking question, we three laid it based the the during the returning will So the your that other we based EBITDA. said, EBITDA potentially talked we allocation about excess make be to be versus Yes, will and excess determination. that you cash there, things in which if year, at I mean on – and and growth the determination flow, to further we've on make

So long-term if evaluate we'll three, that the cash we've there is flow, allocation announced. program given excess capital those free

Christopher Terry

thanks. Okay,

So and it the the Slide expenditures. XXXX million going $XXX pretty side like sounds all FY so it's right hand down capital of like fixed looks the outlook, is XX

items So would just at framework? thinking you look CapEx what come during the generate example, down buyback year, really it about for just to the back, within that other or back going program,

William Oplinger

$XXX target return million we XXXX. the underspent out look And good target few few We is pretty projects of – capital. how years, it's the over at but over that's return million, seeking up sustaining last But seeking, number. for $XXX those. Goes implement around $XXX if then steady that million bit came decisions that historically, for you $XXX million Yes. the came been made with return or as a We be years, down of XXXX. $XXX million available. The seeking pretty would to the last the little us quickly

Christopher Terry

one alumina me. markets. the What The on just for thanks. balances you end balance? have XX, Slide for assumed last Thanks. the And Okay, on Alunorte each of the

Roy Harvey

balance, we the today. on essentially So assume quo of status as alumina

on And is we look stake that, position it's because ground is the impact what not but in does to assumed there which because with on as Alunorte. prior Albras, wanted a simply no and aluminum we're well the like as taking a the So market to to return. put the same restart, connected over

Christopher Terry

me. you. That's for Thank it Okay.


the be Sachs. Korn questioner will Goldman ahead. with And Please go next today Matthew

Matthew Korn

evening, my Hey, questions. Thanks taking good everybody. for

Roy Harvey

Hey, Matt.

Matthew Korn

there? you're the any more steps on forward other there? situation you vote approval hurdles there's worker at on explain say move before need question to provincial Does that release, to the going little of there Could you a next by negotiations clear the bit the Spain. Are end a month. A need You the in the that government? can

Roy Harvey

me at let that Yes, Matthew, take stab one. a

So well I'll some laid caveats essentially out from pretty process is the going give happen. and you here about what forward, will

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Matthew Korn

refining to outlooks different I some is little bit the the commodities. for on also are in Thanks base China more I into additional in it. want your Then, supply your XXXX? that market for linchpin on How case smelter of there. the Chinese alumina, much on next guess appreciate a you counting In dig clarity. view connected, I what's ever year? next capacity production alumina because on Chinese it's

Roy Harvey

is, be. the Matthew, because that hard think be if fact it's what pricing anything, the the to pin down And Yes. should you're And to number Chinese, reactive touching this, are way the on them. the to exact happens pointing very I

their when And saw quickly between so that end when export global they the pricing and Chinese gap were exporting. closed in at quickly favor was that very that and year of this they gap pricing to we very able stopped

think how should ground. always we the account on balances, our into build take we as so And we conditions develop

capacity that, how then of to that about that's a ourselves. adapt bit so has of new then try capacities find think that And build to of we will announced, how a particular And that. we inside situation caveat what been we the

that was of back what into of I'm mind, curtailments, I that what supply/demand be alumina, And it announced don't on for done – have we've consideration balance the China. taken one few I the think a in did would So have the my to relatively don't there line, front then of brought we right taken short-term and those. acted we into trying have curtailment that been also coming and We've and upon. winter think has Essentially facilities right have we and inside been announced we've new me number either. in is

Matthew Korn

guys, year. with everything, Good in been challenging a I job appreciate it. really what's

William Oplinger

Thank you.

Roy Harvey

Matt. Thanks, Yes.


next the Morgan will today Piyush go Please questioner Sood with And be ahead. Stanley.

Piyush Sood

Roy, of Bill, congratulation on couple questions. the quarter. A

in you XXXX, were forecasting in in now, XXXX. First a bigger and deficit deficit one, aluminum a

in Just Just now they aluminum those also, flows. deficits? where prices China's for a your – you do how want for despite deficit? are Chinese to would these without much do ton million bigger And understand are you understand think how account right account ex-China want large why exports you be this? plus exports, to So world X in

Roy Harvey

first answer little question. price So your the let can more bit step we about a and me and then question deficit in talk

with look aluminum you when remember So page, primary dealing it at specifically balances. is that

has that has disadvantages. view. and simplified advantages so world And relatively it It's a

actually becomes is of take products then of inside consuming exported, they China in export, that intended input as it's that, China. If that is that of semi-fabricated as balance basic an producing the Inside let's specifically. very Chinese consumed that, into then demand. material or are for primary So molten demand counts either metal as are outside it that because still being first, that's Chinese primary very if product included what

X.X of demanding out. aluminum So actually is million of There not now tons there primary to at when products. falling that impact negative world into because just you're look those you are a the demand, semi-fabricated rest those go an is impact

some that of actually consuming You're Chinese material.

So these balances doing essentially, primary on is because global way the it we're aluminum the is the embedded negligible balances. that impact in

two China. overcapacity But does ways. to in those sold and that connection products – and It of serve markets. are be exported then between it it as the then – turned China outside this a serves serves it products into then However, allows in two also

what's And on it and what's demand in does very balances, much has impact an have happening impact it an pricing. on so supply happening but aluminum with global also

So I'll second question. use into your move that right to

economic foremost, and talk what I feel think a et lot investors now future right cetera. of and first activities, about So that there's trade, obvious about demand it's about global

the an of when about on look prices, of of some developments, specific also now you the size general the that to on both impact overlay market, that the that at Inside China overarching its to domestic study happening inside I own So there the that producers. much certainly in an producers, much are of overcapacity that's very of most is subsidies looked but very aluminum are short-term our given at those the right industry availability discussions of the subsidies OECD outlier, subsidies found market. happening recent that was what's the think it's specifically, having an

just we essentially broader it being a pall develop market. to tends a producer producer, moves give overcapacity as from and that the a negative so as see to primary And semi-fabricated into China

it's flow the necessarily example, that form And U.S., that parts or that market, world. saw being in global believe as negative exported of we of semi-fabricated the but on so pricing has Europe whether for in to the the million products, a extra other tons Asia flow material impact that or market can it's had doesn't as the eastern seen into we

now China, to believe having back fact beginning, One at I'll we over simple which live then comment prices. pricing look and today, inside is both at of the also in more outsized an comments when the the you of the link and my overproduction look environment but in economics sustainable. tends impact And They prices of capacity sustainable again, China it because in is when cash. aluminum, these be the types currently rationally China When cannot that half decisions. losing toward act whole can't the And China, and weighted these producing all losing dynamics to are we the economics, of overcapacitization at are that smelters, though, economically XX% at be on of to look world, this XX%, so we of broader somewhere this and you comes then when it's things money and between as those all well. pretty

much And come production ever it capacity now online. sustain certainly incentivize levels, doesn't at so right pricing new to means continued that is that these as the less

unsustainable been an to it therefore it's so continue that by because and is that something prior pretty self-correct not trend has in And continuing simply but to can has quick we years, produce. margin justify found occurred

Piyush Sood

should Alumina XX. a split anything Limited, of versus period understand million, The we talk question if attributable want A you assume to Slide or prior what's helpful. that? That's around just taxes to XX/XX you on could $XXX about

William Oplinger

sure that that makes a predominantly do enterprise in a we tax payments our and the have to the we that it's line it right, and making be trailing It's in note lot Yes. largely Australia. should AWAC made a past, makes question. of money have that because Australia, be that should great – that it item understand And you provided in we're haven't people

piece would split So the be it's in that AWAC enterprise. XX/XX a a because of big

question, good Piyush. So

Piyush Sood

XQ And happen right. you. we a stability, of one. transition operational thank XX, it of should as that All think or And alumina Slide or maybe think second-half when can we last XQ? in

William Oplinger

see to I I'll my already. of talk let stability back quarter the that it, about in fourth but started come is, view Roy guess some we

what the the system. regained we view, to my see in fourth that versus of If you second look numbers, had quarter. the we And seen the much third we started in the stability stability around have at and that quarter we've largely

half I to in that So already. think see first the should we start

Roy Harvey

completely with Yes. agree I Bill.

that we entire see the XX is months. expectation Alumina business Our stable through a

Piyush Sood

all and best. the guys Thanks

Roy Harvey

Piyush. Thanks,


And be the Please Lucas next Pipes FBR. will with today questioner ahead. B. go Riley

Lucas Pipes

ask to share million buying stock? purchases increase fourth during you at on more? question Hey, buyback why again? Wanted And price when the you Could of good you. afternoon, Thank quarter. not then what do to kind quick us And a everyone. with were $XX of the back you intend also,

William Oplinger


that that a it in looking window minimum of question why quarter. $X the And a – billion. I fairly think $XX of which wanted we the allocation could had average at target capital We the other $XX.XX program of we in we the the And back. course coming threshold price We were that's more. spent. not really million cash short as keeping was at a to buy then is had key the during aspect in we was

we renegotiating You know out. blacked we renegotiated were our revolver in the quarter fourth also. In our revolver,

So associated we we of period to at with time before buying short fourth end back be in earnings the quarter blackout we were year. the period of only had a able then the the into which in went

we more. why do reason the did that's So not

Lucas Pipes

it. Hopefully, get helpful. but... you $XX, will Got at opportunity That's buy to another not

William Oplinger

$XX.XX. sorry, I'm

Lucas Pipes

facetious. being was I No.

William Oplinger

with I'm an don't No. to buy I at you. we hope get opportunity $XX.

Lucas Pipes

But just another follow-up.

alumina rate. for a you price. bit Could lower given gave versus it's the about confused operational was driving little XXXX? a guidance in on page higher what's it XXXX I'm share the maybe you. think more where XXXX little that Thank color XX the increase I tax why you

William Oplinger

you're you which comes the It profits profits. where all making jurisdictions to make in and your down

clearly, with rate, full-year given right. prices at, today's anticipate guidance, so would tax we EBITDA And aluminum but and it's where a didn't provide that alumina you we the

current essentially my alumina, what I in that's just losses. would I comments to we're So to that we're did you where for upper taking that trying we'd XX%. it and the end market determine prices that to and probably have today's also clear aluminum XX% make be point going to that. profits And at basically the prices of generates make at

range. XX% to XX% it's So

Lucas Pipes

Got it.

and luck. Okay. you of much Well, very best thank

William Oplinger

Thank you.

Roy Harvey

Lucas. Thanks,


Justin Company. & Gabelli Please with will be today last the questioner go And ahead. Bergner

Justin Bergner

for fitting afternoon. Good me Bill. and you Roy Thank in

Roy Harvey

Justin. Hey,

Justin Bergner

cash questions. Hi, of the tax tax quick XX% that the rate be to is to XX% cleanup in cash book range? Is couple – in a the tax expected also

William Oplinger

I to Justin. would have look,

that that tax you I really thing modeling catch-up, for right. key understand think is the purposes cash the

why incremental in $XXX that to in XXXX we catch-up that we pointed profits that's was cash an So made million tax pay with XXXX. we have that out that of associated it's

Justin Bergner

I'll curtailment $XX proposed for Yes, you I I reduced great. assume ex more that some the to related Okay, the a later. but up of In million is was from on impairment benefit some income catch-up, press assume and benefit the Spain. line loop in depreciation. asking the net I mention million $XX clarity the release, to

So can should give much you aid that to EBITDA? how a sense as

William Oplinger

top it have head. don't I of the off my

the valuation got one in with allowance pre-tax are Jim post-tax the how circle largely to much So mean keep you a have on rate that? to I in mind same because we've thing back on in and Spain, Spain. tax that is

So top of I'm the much $XX I'm million off income, of how to – of how not million depreciation, EBITDA, not the head. $XX of the million is much of that million net pre-tax, certain $XX of that is that to $XX of my certain the

Justin Bergner

you spend spent maintenance just then Okay, is quarter Or XXXX? continue thanks. And lastly, the to throughout phenomenon? that going in first to is tick-up, what that relative XXXX a

William Oplinger

guidance. phenomenon. a given that said, The item. to extent extra quarter page, try circle specifically EBITDA reason provided a to full-year we some where guidance better with the the That's providing felt that's question, full-year. much But guidance is the – into to and not quarter we why Roy the I compelled to We first give bullet insight you fact answer And guess we're some as quarter your Timna's first first because back question. both point that started to as

Roy Harvey

just give southern happen to just little of bit be to And facilities hemisphere. of The an more part you to piece of more one the in in our Justin, add explanation. largest information, refining a

summer months maintenance some see we tend now tend see activities. the It's so the when more we of trend. or larger a happening maintenance to to And reverse

So tends for beginning to be most be it months important the cyclical maintenance the the to that year us. one of tends pretty of

Justin Bergner

Okay, my great. Thank you questions. for taking

Roy Harvey

you, Thank Justin.


And Roy I back like question-and-answer this would for closing will to conference session. any over the now conclude turn our Harvey to remarks.

Roy Harvey

stronger priorities call joining late than you. results launched William. And once our today. Today's reflect in thanks earnings the our success Thank we strategic Great, Alcoa XXXX. how for again, much and to is everyone today of when

again opportunities drive to We of first stockholders have forward look to the the and this more value at quarter. year you for updating end we

William, back you. and to you, thank So


today's presentation. may your And And the attending Thank has conference now now disconnect you lines. concluded. you for