Canadian Pacific Railway (CP)

Chris De Bruyn Managing Director, Investor Relations and Treasury
Keith Creel President and Chief Executive Officer
Nadeem Velani Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
John Brooks Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer
Fadi Chamoun BMO
Ken Hoexter Bank of America
Brian Ossenbeck J.P. Morgan
Allison Landry Crédit Suisse
Steve Hansen Raymond James
Chris Wetherbee Citi
Justin Long Stephens
Scott Group Wolfe Research
Amit Mehrotra Deutsche Bank
Jason Seidl Cowen
Brandon Oglenski Barclays
Benoit Poirier Desjardins Capital Markets
David Vernon Bernstein
Tom Wadewitz UBS
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Good afternoon. My name is Christine, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Canadian Pacific's First Quarter 2021 Conference Call. The slides accompanying today's call are available at www.cpr.ca. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. there a remarks, Instructions]. session speakers' the will question-and-answer be [Operator After would Chris Treasury Relations conference. introduce like to Bruyn, the I to Investor De now Managing Director, begin and

Chris De Bruyn

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John Brooks

Keith, Thanks, right. and everyone. afternoon, All good

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Nadeem Velani

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Keith Creel

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from the Instructions] Chamoun Fadi comes line [Operator question first from Your BMO. of

Fadi Chamoun

explain time I appreciate the this piece. taking the time and through to

what customers, ground outlook? feel you've do So upside feel quick this here that understand multiple there your of little And synergies, what you you do weeks kind a synergy now had the question is significant maybe on of to about to kind on to a that that initial the talk means. were? maybe How more bit expectations

Keith Creel

create teams beyond our assumed to in Absolutely well these what together understated, we deal. two -- overachieve big opportunity for

Fadi Chamoun

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Keith Creel

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Ken Bank America. Hoexter from question of from the comes next Your of line

Ken Hoexter

your just volumes, given we improved talk if your economy, outlook for maybe focus could now just on about it's or on maybe John, the I Keith, performance, guess.

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John Brooks

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Nadeem Velani

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Keith Creel

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from Ossenbeck from line J.P. You comes the next question of Brian Morgan.

Brian Ossenbeck

the bit if the here? that Maybe your for even a up about having perspective, trains maybe side, it just But how that bonus? capacity you then more more potash can just back? for one really both the demand Can than the think, can length working some comes as pretty at just mentioned. projecting in you you're a you gave just network the from have since you to is keep confidence and obviously, from address count in head you capacity growth hiring Maybe pent with the is size volume December fundamentals you And here. stick those talk that and John same big numbers

Keith Creel

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Suisse. of Allison from comes question the next line Your Landry from Crédit

Allison Landry

sort your up take view needed regulatory bid? Or could guess is risk? and come bid? because you suggested investment unwillingness willing comment times by are mean to Should you growth X of CN range locking leverage, we you that as to I as is the capital your be CN similar to, around CP to And synergies. the initial at don't that a a I So need of capture that interpret to closer leverage raise that to for that up to Keith,

Keith Creel

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from Next question Steve comes line of Hansen the Raymond James. from

Steve Hansen

your got on growth detailing how prospects scenario feel the your in with having clear prospects do that Or a of absolutely the just I are Keith, is other Yes. view still otherwise? the last crystal absence you get you of the response you essential mean as growth I you to deal do like on shareholders KSC? this lots comfortable feel question, in that go not mean you outside way, the about it? done?

Keith Creel

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from question of Citi. from the line comes Chris next Your Wetherbee

Chris Wetherbee

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Keith Creel

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Nadeem Velani

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Our of Stephens. from Long Justin comes from next question the line

Justin Long

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Keith Creel

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John Brooks


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Scott of Research. from Your from comes line Wolfe next question the Group

Scott Group

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Keith Creel

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next comes the question line Amit Deutsche Your Bank. from of from Mehrotra

Amit Mehrotra

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Keith Creel

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Amit Mehrotra

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Keith Creel

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question Seidl from comes from of next Your Jason the Cowen. line

Jason Seidl

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Keith Creel

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Jason Seidl

color. that appreciate I Keith,

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Keith Creel

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Jason Seidl

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Keith Creel

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of from Brandon the next from comes The Oglenski Barclays. line question

Brandon Oglenski

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Keith Creel

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John Brooks

Brandon, comments. I'll add Keith's to

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Keith Creel

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Capital Your from next from Benoit comes the question line Desjardins of Poirier Markets.

Benoit Poirier

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John Brooks

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comes from of from next Vernon Bernstein. question Your David the line

David Vernon

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Keith Creel

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Keith Creel

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question UBS. comes from from Tom next Your Wadewitz

Tom Wadewitz

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Keith Creel

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Keith Creel

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