Foundation Building Materials (FBM) 10 Aug 192019 Q2 Earnings call transcript

Greetings. Welcome to the Foundation Building Materials Second Quarter Conference Call [Operator Instructions].

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, John Moten, Vice President of Investor Relations for Foundation Building Materials.

You may begin.

Good morning. joining for for XXXX second you call. conference thank us our today quarter And

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strong we've raised quarter, profit underlying our John XXXX, call. trends in discuss for in the later profitability will the Given the second which guidance Gorey

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of acquisitions. quarter, and capabilities Acoustics market. the Supply, our acquisition announced commercial market service second we the Greater ceilings Select in Toronto to In turning our Ontario downtown the the Now to presence expanding expanding

selectively businesses American presence. enhance our to meet acquire North continue that our We and strategic priorities

to Lewisville continue quarter, branch strengthening our in greenfield further addition, and position the Texas. we Corpus plan we open In to geographic locations extending XXXX, greenfield across four second we opening branches, opened In footprint. greenfield six branches market our Christi, on two country. the In in further

that share Our scale, years the high leverage organic few greenfield national growth. startup, returns invested our in support first our market branch investments our of are long-term capital increase and on yield projects

objectives year. to meet we As financial for XXXX, half the finished on first the are we for target our

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half strategy and throughout this our executing efficiencies us to operational long-term value company on front deliver customers and to second shareholders. driving year, our continue capitalize of will opportunities the we by the to in of For the

second to over details more quarter for on the Now the John I'll call results. turn

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a our November sold segment, in our As today filings. in discussion operations which the and was SEC discontinued XXXX reported reminder, excludes as is MI

we in As quarter company's solid X% of EBITDA million reported $XXX.X up an net $XX.X net margin sales year Ruben results adjusted of period; history. net with and of business income with over highlighted, EBITDA prior $XX.X million the adjusted first time for second X.X% X.X%; the sales up the $XXX of million, of base million,

results. product our to turning Now line

up prior year. to to Second the quarter X.X% compared wallboard net sales compared million, were $XXX.X million $XXX.X

compared in volume business net $XXX.X X.X% primarily mix year for up our $XX.X selling is point The decline prior to due for compared base year to X.X%. to volume. was in price the the slight was X.X% to prices unit basis a wallboard sales weather were Our XX growth Base The ceiling unit deliveries and higher compared period. products. offset driven our decline business by adverse growth higher primarily period, quarter, by which to the million, in mix million impacted Suspended customers. prior suspended ceilings X.X% ceiling

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million period. across million our improved was our to quarter profit for XX% compared year the lines, period, for driven XX.X%. in was pricing or year compared experienced the prior the $XXX.X quarter product of the $XX.X second profitability increase second prior Gross XX.X% initiatives. million margin and in purchasing We by ongoing Gross $XXX.X to an

to Selling, to the $XXX.X general second a SG&A, was higher as in enhance sales XX.X% a costs quarter. net period. million SG&A continued compared period. adverse The percentage the prior were investment or were in initiatives and of profitability a our due year as administrative, result year prior to compared of SG&A the the operating in for conditions XX.X% increase in our expenses expenses sales weather $XXX.X company-wide in of primarily quarter as percentage to net expenses and million

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We estimated a X.Xx adjusted to $X.XX are X.Xx. finally, for range to range to a target $X. are improving share leverage our per debt earnings we to raising of And XXXX our ratio of

Now closing I'd remarks. to over call some like to Ruben turn for the

Thanks, John.

our results. categories net of markets. quarter our commercial our balanced end impacting strong, and of the very portfolio from across weather underlying adverse profitability second strength was our product Despite sales with pleased business in are We reflecting our quarter,

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which offerings a our We've long-term share actions net market us changes. to billion initial in undertaken our XXXX perspective withstand XXXX, well $X.X in We drive after to also progress strategic our segment, to years wanted sales. moment over to in to Mechanical Insulation and $XXX $X.X ago. grown sales to we've million position Since our significant our profitability growth over since on IPO, billion take from and public net selling X.X generated even our

our by XXX over XX points. and margin points We've adjusted basis gross basis improved EBITDA over both margin

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us believe we continue about fragmented. highly we take remains still our grow to growth there our a business. is of There closing, improve continue at The we are In a ahead make as team management much to excited will very better our to industry larger us business actions future. is our as runway and FBM of numerous company

happy That now be our take concludes to and questions. your we'll remarks,

from Matthew Our Barclays. question with is Instructions] first [Operator Bouley

sort current maybe levels that that a little would a higher. just kind guidance, took guys suggest of require margin the gross with end today your looking obviously of So But the of margin lower off. drop of guide you at of starting

mean I of thinking that guide of should -- towards margins at just already? reason Or why any soften the So are end where we higher is you're that this year-to-date, point you to kind would based in be on your view? there tracking

Yes.

about Our year by do margin XX end XX% we margins points, the those basis full and gross an EBITDA guidance are with on improving of about the at is now to for track year. and the

top the it. don't X.X that M&A the free a up you into thinking leverage change. a fully of but flow bit know, level Should down what And took year-end about by for turn, that then cash anything accounting got guide, result as of that end, little leverage quite I guide? changed perhaps, we you guys not read leverage Okay, at guide are

Yes.

if we're of a fruition -- or the not half, targets not. I at think sure for to looking We're it's lot M&A. any come second

turns. on So we're conservative X that

SunTrust Robinson Our next question is with from Hughes Keith Humphrey.

I on demand, guess particularly on bigger-picture question nonresidential.

of just characterize If you from could what customers quotation you're backlog seeing kind activity? and

is this Keith, Kirby. for Yes, the Thank you question.

XXXX. through and backlog robust, commercial customer is very Our the confident... almost on very We heading side feel into

light, of on inflection X change comments down? X that? or any seen but you comments, not X Specifically, X Have any we've or seen many,

the commercial on side. Not

than the you a make up. into moving so little in any is of if been happening it's think But growth ceiling business? comments that has in kind the could less still been you're past, businesses, you And what

this Keith, is Yes, Pete.

Our some little a of part to ways. still they Armstrong's a the of of bit. But vital ceilings if core mere business see in units our continue remains you read which down much lot business, pretty a core results,

on a in We bit expectations. Canadian market we're architectural line -- had are business. for were up The -- results. numbers, of specialties with strong And those our U.S. only there sure, the a really where Armstrong right have drag we a hit is and our

from suppliers some Final of of your decline in sequential question seen on some prices. talk wallboard. We've --

door you the environment of your is expectation like characterize kind in looks out the what the for And term? of just you third If what quarter? could near in pricing

throughout has through a price rest XXXX. residential, continue commercial of to more stable price the year. stable and than We're been we Our the see

is Our question Trey Grooms next with from Stephens.

But change EBITDA should in little of about how flow in as be that the So term, we of look of profit not first balance Any a price on bit year. gross we just you guys question back thinking have year? of as -- with long I margins, at at for kind in basis, EBITDA the on kind and we quarter, gone Great a the the job longer-term understand is through look the half guidance the this there? medium more margins. But cost. way the

Well, in the Trey, above X-year budgets plan X% term, as I of our our couple and think longer have years and for next EBITDA there. we the getting

last of than the I get think there in we sooner with results couple quarters, our later.

kind on it kind though I on side But sounds gears side. your encouraging. -- good. to talking line. the mentioned -- looking the at bit That's top what customers, your on around I side? XXXX And thoughts like of you the our of just res of kind the residential a and pretty there more expectations guess, like about the of on is business? What's even little outlook It switching sounds know on your commercial looking

brought So it a I that's question, and great to you because I'm up it. about glad talk wanted

first us. to flat that's Our X,XXX, X% up then up I bit. a that we see residential we're a kind in soft. saw residential, housing and or little for mean, at good sign so. We for a and X,XXX, at half I was July to flattish And little And looks pickup least starts maybe stuff of get XXXX, from the looking

-- us, So don't and good But big our residential. month July, it month for of our was a for targets were of -- sales pretty us. great May. was where due see July shortfall resi June for gain -- May and and And was XX% most was to weather, our see sales don't in was in a certain big weather had in especially XX% good shortfall we a to a spots a month. we wanted drop, in just I our down,

Darkatsh Our next question with from is Raymond Sam James.

here, questions of I Couple if could.

quarter-to-quarter run second where $XX a the basis, think John, bit it suggestive Your half you help is about XQ? directionally $XX of could of million on rate and somewhere a million terms each and guidance on we EBITDA quarter. put between in bone a meat should little quarterly XQ

annual Typically, EBITDA Well, our quarter we basis quarter that which really stronger on than our down margin. to for our is third falls revenue, guidance in an have that fourth line. EBITDA

full our is million $XXX EBITDA. for to the year guide million $XXX

XQ this performance? might over and volumes, of is influence that XQ seasonality nothing outside So funky year, EBITDA there this normal

No.

by increases you in July seen of prebuy here much channel in do way of you wallboard? question, anticipate price the in have Second ahead or

have We not.

like investing Operating And operating to it of expenses you. last half originally to the maybe delever even looking looks and looking been than math, weather. I e-commerce been question. a respect know you obviously know my and what at. fair some had least second At have delevering. investments delever by amount expenses so I you're with are more you've have

given once fact leverage should weather, again? think, in that continual the creates the we just you be, that First especially effect? the do that off, quarter. beginning investment point, assume years Or anticipate I out at influenced this why to when some deleverage expenses And might flow operating

Yes.

to company-wide invest couple will many in with are for continue We initiatives. our the going initiatives we next through years, but driving of value shareholders those

So think going that's continue. to we

it anticipate OpEx? what it Or at you -- do is Is anticipate year? you in the leveraging year Do point, the in next future? John,

next the in year. sometime Probably half of second

is question next Markets. Dahl RBC with from Capital Our Mike

RBC. from Eisen Mike

around the how difficult can from that and think in to us initiatives we we it Can I And price in these executing internal up think the if as gross have help talked the the of you fourth at some benefit for forward? guys think tough questions following you from much about how possibility of be quantify way when margins. guys progress any and the will strictly gross was how there comps, is past, in are margin quarter, margin And you quarter, in that was for some you evolved? again. cost Just quarter, moving expansion much look there Great about be expansion. are

Fourth falling our year that said the down and that quarter I do for and gross it's increase to believe come. in for this still for believe same last We to year outperform year. And midpoint last of quarter following we we this on And this and year. the the years have the margin margin, the full -- the year. what of the fourth a great and gross it's those EBITDA we'll had quarter is comp. margins third a We talked margins is initiatives more last think lot about we've about we gross XX% year for tough to call. gross margins a

purchasing well they're price And cost also dynamic, improvements as far the tied as and as the pricing as together.

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That I comes frame competition. for know you gross there's your any a business make can sense, and what a the margin mind of there's for if helpful. the what us sits the in But and today? volatility way you normalized? it's then normalized to price is think it of it as lot And when

Yes.

full what it's think of what our for us, I the is it's -- midpoint for our year. guidance

Junk from Our next Luke question is Robert Baird. with W.

you the release. Ruben, activity in strong commercial referenced

more saw that's in could And on just reported between market U.S. growth? comment Just impact And activity what if provide Canada? also, could in the some what wondering you on your having residential if business color the you and if your on any in as Canada well? you

be, There lot down well is our bit, we than budgeted The U.S. further there. for to hitting that and a a We're to down performing has we budgeted in U.S. Canada, small effect. little targets obviously us. be the a is internal a it's

our Now knows, I make XX% everybody Canada want to sure to do is business. XX% of

overall, our businesses business the XX% Canada the And it So we performing has has half. second earnings. and in on We U.S. than also Canada. of Canada in has in impact about half sector. first sorry the residential do decline in some a -- and think XX% our business, see do of of it and better Canada our about had in Canada, that. greater is residential the much Yes, the

moving for Ruben? that -- Similar target that to below see to you work, that additional deck? for to going the do possibly down and taking range really some next the X.X leverage X.X committed year. going year, lower then into you're to look flexibility flexibility the you it in X.Xx said to Or this great put year-end second, And even

but always and some, opportunities to even are committed we we're will to taking look us are there down there of as X.Xx, it going in now. be there will some X.X to front to at Well, be

and but excellent to have and So by we that. end I to made some to we we continue do plan kind of X.X progress there, of danced X.X around question the committed XXXX, your are

Our next Blair. with question from is William Paul Dircks

me. Just or follow-up quick a two for

vertical? maybe Were weakness seeing in were within lines there Ruben, expecting? First, perhaps, mentioned briefly outperformance you're month in any pockets on in that the upon line. you or, the the what what of you the other geographically touch you're And some Midwest of areas could multi-family product certain top relative May. to

Sure. Good Thank you. question.

right? said, you So weather-related, so outperformance, not

relative Correct. you Outperformance internally what to were guys budgeting?

-- we and in Midwest, the for footprint regions. are There's several commercially multi-family, a Midwest, such Midwest. in we in outperforming Michigan, amount us there. good are have and believe a us. strong is #X position We a And California have for Arizona we outperforming weather, of is there the very substantial we the even had but

outperformed And even weather, so even softness as well. Midwest though the some is there we've in and there is though

another I there's a And weather of didn't lot Texas so for pockets there's well of ask mentioned pockets had too performing is mentioned to we but I for know but and make Texas weakness, us. as that, you that, sure Canada. also wanted I've well. still

question. hope I your I So answered

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big you've e-commerce. and of one add improve us, just the to to continue is actual if our seen initiatives with No, really the new ones our results, continually we well are initiatives that cost-out for doing and

our the so costs we're initiatives. quicker a time new little pushing kind to of on some line these And of

what we is SG&A XX XX basis it's concerned, as points far figured. is about As to

the for basis impact it XX -- XX figured to was QX, points. We weather the was

back at to no I are would the like this over closing for time. remarks. questions call There turn Mendoza Instructions] to Ruben more [Operator

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