FSR Fisker

Dan Galves VP, IR
Henrik Fisker CEO
Burkhard Huhnke CTO
Geeta Gupta-Fisker CFO and COO
Christian Marti VP of European Marketing, Sales & Service
Evan Silverberg Morgan Stanley
Shreyas Patel Wolfe Research
Steven Hempel Barclays
Elaine Smith Bank of America
Jon Lopez Vertical Group
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Fisker Inc.

Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. My name is Brika and I'll be the moderator for today's event. [Operator Instructions] I'll now hand over to your host, Dan Galves, to begin.

So Dan, please go ahead when you're ready.

Dan Galves

Brika. lot a Thanks Fisker's everyone. to earnings everyone call Welcome

Operating Joining Executive Technology Officer; the call and Officer; Fisker, Chief are Henrik Chief Officer Dr. Financial Dr. Gupta-Fisker, me Geeta on and Chief Officer. Burkhard Huhnke, Chief

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Henrik Fisker

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Burkhard Huhnke

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Geeta Gupta-Fisker

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Christian Marti

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Geeta Gupta-Fisker

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Henrik Fisker

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Evan Silverberg

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Geeta Gupta-Fisker

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Evan Silverberg

very Great. Thank much. you

Henrik Fisker

Thanks, Evan.


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Shreyas Patel

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Christian Marti

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Shreyas Patel

be that Allego the Is clear, you work? compensating one charging how year for free would that And for would just customers. to be then

Geeta Gupta-Fisker


part of passed to customers. as is agreement, to benefit Fisker have a We which our the cooperation on

Henrik Fisker

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Geeta Gupta-Fisker

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Shreyas Patel

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Geeta Gupta-Fisker

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Dan Galves

get clear, Thanks, when to retail And was Geeta from few referring it's investors I Brika, just to ask I'm just we'll wanted just and that received clarify to said be back pack to to going confusing super Shreyas. she because jump then battery just a questions and battery assembly, in assembly, that the queue. sometimes. we

to mutual Foxconn from from planning between planning Foxconn you take are since and the Magna? how is Fisker to as well? interest one model first investment you the The is Are different business align

Geeta Gupta-Fisker

in design, in technology take don't product in and We of believe equal take game. manufacturing both Fisker, sales. to ours. should Foxconn. supply And are to course And we need product lead unique the a the directly on chain over we development, the in investments is, We our where they're since investment very marketing investing in are skin program Foxconn investment aligned and ours be are Foxconn XXX% co-invest So, we is partner's reason we areas deal interest And financially. have on any from owners and equity definition, result, taking Foxconn XXX% aligned with And taking have that a any they we as are program. actually a the of of joint with with taking the on think interests do program. not on and that from intend the structure

Dan Galves

Thanks, Geeta.

Second question interior included Ocean is, photos. your initial vehicle press release of many

on that social interior the campaigning there scaling is no back this media an Is your aesthetics? traces or since your interior website. on indication are of your the then However, in company

Henrik Fisker

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Dan Galves

the that's please? Brika, it for go retail to the Can queue, back you analyst investor questions.


you. Thank

with comes the Johnson from question So Barclays. next Brian

So Brian, go ahead. please

open. Your is line

Steven Hempel

call. this think for Johnson. Thanks I Steven hosting the for Hempel Yeah, Brian is

dynamics couple around the behind expenses as kind on kind of of questions. regulations think R&D of versus plan? original in a the the increased competitive the we a reflection color just Just about that? increased ASPs? to fits and more how Or this the And R&D see model, reasoning R&D overall higher had kind driving into little midterm is Wondering we operating economic expense, the potentially Are just industry a this upfront? of going

Geeta Gupta-Fisker

question. that's a Yeah, great That's question. a great

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to I is many have want We've The we hired hiring. other that of people. point more more course out thing

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Steven Hempel

Europe, U.S. plan November then Auto Okay. is That's marketing like and at helpful. LA related starting the the with extensive XXXX one an have Show. for to the just you And developed other sounds the

split, about remind U.S. the and unit Ocean Fisker the the Europe you can as wondering, between of you're volumes Just thinking and the as of midterm? demand over that rollout how well kind us

Henrik Fisker

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Steven Hempel

question. my taking for Thanks

Dan Galves

Next Brika? question


We now of have John Bank America. Murphy of

go So ahead. please John,

Elaine Smith

today, I apologies the Biden Good call bigger hopped touched a all. a bit Administration announcement earlier you've evening, everyone. sales on the target Elaine on picture this if bit question EV on we of This and from U.S. When late. for at is consider Smith XXXX. in the A XX% by the John.

and Fisker, the enforcing respond catalyst EVs would As for a think direction or impacts certain positive the the mean about in government you push industry towards a that you automakers negative potentially of to aggressively being some more increasing? internally the have to and faster as you any view way broadly have? catalyst plans the competition a for in on of it product industry Fisker would pushing maybe And as you across to

Henrik Fisker

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Geeta Gupta-Fisker

puts initiative EV rely startups to electrification entire leading who it unites that as think I great are dollars of a a have point fence. in that, don't to education more to the be there's forefront there's And customers that who us just country of lot one I a want to such brand. on where needs on billions the us, add We and sitting personally lot of about like still spend. the done a

Elaine Smith

most then the I up technology, last Fantastic. as other process on around that to and production so enforce chain Ocean to ADAS you for at rather past to expectations you correctly developing in over closer think three to for reference helpful supply what from wanted you are user the your can areas leverage in more to and source on connectivity areas you of some versus but in presentation vehicle, speak? design, versus interfaces, your supply then of vehicle? gets how remember That's color. merger source your outsource? where very as getting chain trying would I to I and software you identified follow obviously, maybe a is changed that what the among all than but rely months components. And also the specifically six in the on outsource And year, rebuild you're If wanted Has is wheel the base, component finding the thought supply to

Henrik Fisker

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Geeta Gupta-Fisker


is want the all I components is there to think really I house. first So who the say thing does OEM in no

really So it I hard. done but really, then divested. in vertical the think have And integration they it, past is OEMs

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Dan Galves

have time question, lot, Thanks we for more Elaine. one a Brika, please.


final Thank you. question The comes the Group. lines Jon of from phone Vertical Lopez from

go please Jon, So ready. when ahead you're

Jon Lopez

for XXXX here have getting this it taking is more last you manufacturing of your Appreciate much. just quarters R&D late quick one questions. know ongoing the what But I the know a about first the ones. first to here. million this $XXX is do I we're how practical run want $XX number. trying of to tell I of payments on this does spend to so I'm in just average, spend. rate? of come you spent call couple if in revised R&D your apologize, a million that quarters Thanks the second. I anything spend? us for two is versus to had of like But much And about just each going I partner. year, that part you're of to the two the on just it a think the application sort Because little let's to bit back to

Geeta Gupta-Fisker

start is the by Ocean first will saying to under a dollars. So be want thing billion I

So fundamentally the a quantum hasn't program. when it's start pretty you changed. And common

The first me few spend for clarifying quarters bit but of could be guidance time a little let year. lumpy, this

be project of earnings in in XXX% a which bringing and forecast XXXX. to hiring. So the that's R&D It's increased million, new a suppliers. will we last It's spending, is in of house X% about that combination increase in a related PEAR call $XX spending combination

guidance. program PEAR it Now, of from course excluded is a prior our completely new and was

high and the Now activities in XXXX. end, want the X% than XXX related end in money at low we rather to again, we outside. incremental X% increased activity that's And it's of in house the result today's to end increase, of capability the again lower doing XXX the end, so develop spend prototype at high the at directly we're and

for Now, and I are you new house you certain building that capability, need headcount, et bit in driven of tools, you and There brought EE. course, components for certain earlier, in as if regulation also the need safety. more little you you're in expenses because in mentioned tools, spend he by changes, a are need Eurozone, need And software cetera, to a VP we and charge. hills,

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Jon Lopez


my maybe us, monthly which question the So that's is ramp? shared at time a thanks. second about with the just maybe if sounds production period think Okay, is, to And my least formally. like what's then this the I targets, guess first I XXXX, average it that you not? would or perhaps does for as per be that zero it's state at level? some kind to take? ramp Perhaps is, XXXX month, question from long of steady a target what you move I expect point guess near? my question point at you how And to

Henrik Fisker

could a the XXXX so reaching Yeah, of vehicles right date I'm you is comment month exact is the say are in with that than reluctant There good we're now. when in news 'XX. over a more drive was we little But that some have here that change over to per capability give my do the a different Magna lot there not that. XXXX, the factors I XXXX average that to XXXX.

volume whatever well, first of would be which a over couple months catch our is of the So can reason, why doing we later very year year, XX,XXX. later I'm confident in if up target we for in XXXX,

actually the XX,XXX. to might close get think I

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cetera. cars would people of create to facing we're that used train burgers, case their take of labor, advantage confident. producing difficulties have so et we're cars That's after this and which why startup have or going with have they factory in They're the are car Magna. makers from other They So skill with entire started to not and suppliers, making to already premium flip typical we the own infrastructure. an any infrastructure like they to not the have suddenly they

Jon Lopez

right. Thanks. All

Dan Galves

appreciate We you. Thanks quarter. talk Thank next the Jon. who really Brika you And running the thanks anyone call today. joined call. for we'll a And lot, to

Henrik Fisker

everybody. you, Thank Thank very you much.


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