Charah Solutions (CHRA)

Steve Brehm Vice President of Legal Affairs and Corporate Secretary
Scott Sewell President & Chief Executive Officer
Roger Shannon Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer
Brian Butler Stifel
Alex Rygiel B. Riley
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Charah Solutions, Incorporated Fourth Quarter and Year-end 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After today’s presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time, if you would like to ask a question. I would now like to hand the conference over to Steve Brehm, Vice President of Legal Affairs and Corporate Secretary for Charah Solutions. Please, go ahead.

Steve Brehm

operator. you, Thank and everyone, for us joining Good thank today. morning, you prepared participation We look quarter our your in and your forward and questions. year-end sharing we fourth and our appreciate answering call, XXXX to remarks earnings hope the release review market we chance the press after that you’ve yesterday We a closed. to had issued or can on press presentation www.charah.com, release, you follow during the may website you section ir.charah.com. our well our as not, If remarks as find the prepared Investors of investor a supplemental at

today Roger Officer me Officer; Sewell, call President and Scott Joining on are Shannon, our Chief Executive and and Financial Chief Treasurer.

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Scott Sewell

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Roger Shannon

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Scott Sewell

expanding closing, success our believe environmental expanding our to success. opportunities and Roger. long-term focus business new Thanks, for remain value our advantage of We in and position committed positioning to In and growing take the progress shareholders. enhancing sustainability businesses company to long-term we our on continue ourselves awards, in the that keen service for our offerings market

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you. [Operator line Brian question from Instructions] Our comes go Stifel. Butler please Brian, of Thank from ahead. first the

is Your open line

Brian Butler

you. Thank morning. Good

Scott Sewell

Good morning, Brian.

Roger Shannon

doing? Good are Brian. How morning, you

Brian Butler

Good sir.

Scott Sewell


Brian Butler

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Scott Sewell

Brian. Thanks, Yeah.

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Brian Butler

should maybe, longer-term give going a moving little about the switching over the on investors of to think color, on timing on And potential contribution based kind how then bit all for then And maybe, that Okay. parts what forward? in -- you can ERT, a basis, XXXX? more

Scott Sewell


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of through chasing think about Cheswick wind continue down, from necessarily we're see the others of see But projects, contribution out that there of and those I kind be ramp now. we progressing excited it you'll two a Avon you'll Creek that but one. and kind from or Lake is to -- right little not that we're bit -- and Gibbons

to So a category of it contribution on you continues to specifics be speak great do us. more Roger, bit a kind little want to for aspect? the

Roger Shannon

about Yes, Gibbons kind Certainly. just thinking Thanks, Creek. of I'm Brian, Scott.

in higher some value the that XX% As year, several $XX of purchase kind of million that we some the beginning stated, said through total. expecting we quarter, up in have will of buildings that to and some more parcels kind of switch about million low from area. probably talked around wind have net first second, we comprised Charah of remarks, sell the going the the of the scrap XX% we prepared in agreement parcels of We midyear that. the to the the We're type are half sales the the proceeds of also Like third being remaining remaining say, which signed of are acreage. some admin so

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Brian Butler

helpful. If about of the the That's And Great. through kind quarter supply of where kind numbers. in saw the XXXX? use materials on impacting level chain to the going of you the kind the talked is improve, doesn't of Okay. weather kind the and fourth supply that chain right pace you

Roger Shannon

revenues. things you at of you'll I'd but different refer in of couple the look know kind the I And A on there. XX-K this, X footnote to Yes.

we So customer aligned the remarks, and kind in business like look and again, we product that now, mentioned the with look how related. prepared the at we way at it's of

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not So that. we're seeing

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ash day So but only into performing out the management, and -- the not in recycling and industry. performing that cement day services

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we completed a Phase as I reuse basically that transitioned speak to from of project. project we've more a construction XXXX, that's was So in which transitioning we beneficial

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category see services to that expect we'll So increase. byproduct

Brian Butler


potential upside? be guidance. So current That would isn't award that in ramp the in -- ramp that

Roger Shannon

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I there's sure though. XX months to XXXX I'm months, to nine in like get is It It's -- nothing it guidance, question byproduct the for to about but that said, nine -- make within that's falls addressing certainly, EnviroSource. started. your course, in that's Of But category. services

Brian Butler

expecting But you're first the Right. revenue contribution that contract no there's EnviroSource in the guidance new in from that? the half,

Roger Shannon

That's something Missing correct.

Brian Butler


to nine ramp? that's So months

Roger Shannon

No, construct. to nine months

XXXX producing we probably at quarter say, looking start revenue we're we the from contract of second mid-year, once that. signed to So

Brian Butler

number how Okay. helpful. -- guess, And the you I profit? a construction was that the impact growth the talked fourth big looking delays the That's about then Do on at have just for that, in you on quarter.

Roger Shannon

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Brian Butler

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you for Do cash the flow? have outlook. for the number in guidance a on Just the CapEx

Roger Shannon

can It Scott. answer Yes. -- is sorry, that. Anyone

the the kind So we're unit, excluding EnviroSource area. we're of in mid-teens thinking

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Brian Butler

get for taking in my I’ll Thank very you Great. back much Okay. the queue. questions.

Scott Sewell


Roger Shannon

Brian. Thanks,


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Alex Rygiel

morning, Good gentlemen year. and great Thanks.

Scott Sewell

Thank Good morning, you. Alex.

Alex Rygiel

to delaying questions backwards, Is You’re Obviously, reevaluating awards. due of the and that of in some the positive those have welcome. just a of timing really ruling, any modest such less? plans some set, of and the are of reevaluation that couple your of sort sort some opportunity the EPA to all A we Or incremental therefore, opportunities customers delay here. are here? remediation are going of reevaluations all

Scott Sewell

enthusiasm a timing. the these where as comes the dig the And impoundments. clean be on, to out Couldn't go of they have opposite it more and spot the and that, it's from only of sit You're reevaluate of all where size standpoint. modest or back our out going they're is delay from kind backward groundwater to and optimism these project, that's in ash kind increases have of some close going to of issues, of primarily scope the and

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Roger Shannon

Alex, -- a place, announcement terms in information larger back going cap full were place specific permitted Roger. to a that okay, pivot to but to customers, because of to exponentially had following it's give And the there of to having contamination comments in comments groundwater and is on project. have cap go plans Yes. to -- they where in public is issues, say, not certainly to I they're to where from I'm even place not the discussion in clean be closure. any mean, -- the a Scott's that not some point, utilities do And

market. is, expanding it believe, So the we certainly addressable

Alex Rygiel

in delays, delays the delays you talking modest Sure. or to one to of And two when are then modest modest one quarters years? two characterize we

Scott Sewell

forward. it still again, I that is belief best do in keep and think we're near-term Our try earlier. the not Brian have and back talking we billion here And trying in I to mean, And we're we moving of years potential the $X believe goes we're billion focused exceed path quarters, to to a that business numbers. And that, one to opportunities. questions on $X this. initial tracking is XXXX pending to our asked going team development on our

Alex Rygiel

any Or And first there any, then, at have in that, in quarter? there all imports the change visibility might is the quarter? that Europe Asia from improved not, is second if or

Scott Sewell


we earlier. improvement I Europe alluded But now, in our on expect and of kind that as believe, business. it small Asia when don't any the the of don't and we comments into a And very that imports balance in of would was process improvement of see from guidance year. our portion we've no. well. to not the calculations I included think, to see improvement But QX this, We in comes right some thought do say any and coming or right really now that I any

Alex Rygiel

helpful. on opportunities the first? That's any additional And then beyond lastly, update EnviroSource

Scott Sewell


you announcing. a good or really be to but months, for year that -- guys the really weeks weeks for be for a some giving news excited good us hopefully, quarter definitely expecting than in QX good to months, closer we're should coming here So hopefully

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ERT So got the hopefully, the hopefully, announcements, similar we've good announcements is in we've future. cadence some great. to our a to -- And reception EnviroSource got on relative

Roger Shannon


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conversations on some there's So going around there.

the So think to first day day roll we're the about and start. we the about the these enthusiastic to start one is just more by to -- opportunity out,

Alex Rygiel

luck. Excellent. Good

Scott Sewell

Alex. Thanks right. All


you, Thank question. your Alex, for

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Unidentified Analyst

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Scott Sewell

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Roger Shannon

And Tony, it's Roger. Good morning.

quick iron $XX yellow million talked Look, for question. follow-up to Brian's the a EnviroSource. on CapEx, we response in Just about number excluding question, approximately

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but and course, to do Of able that. we first, feel about do confident then the latter being we --

Unidentified Analyst

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Scott Sewell

right, all slightly You're They are different. Tony.

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Unidentified Analyst

Thank you.

Scott Sewell

Tony. Thanks, welcome. You’re


to comments. we now the are Those back all I'll concluding questions have for any management team hand today, so for the

Scott Sewell

appreciate operator, you, we and Thank time Great. today. everyone's

again, very the forward XXXX. reporting of calls results balance and future to and XXXX and look are, FY We with out pleased QX our

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