PFSI PennyMac Financial Services

Chris Oltmann IR
Stan Kurland Executive Chairman
David Spector President and CEO
Andy Chang CFO
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Chris Oltmann

Good afternoon and welcome to the Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Discussion for PennyMac Financial Services, Inc. The slides that accompany this discussion are available on PennyMac Financial’s website at

Before we begin, please take a few moments to read the disclaimer on Slide 2 of the presentation. Thank you.

Now, I would like to turn the discussion over to Stan Kurland, PennyMac Financial’s Executive Chairman.

Stan Kurland

Chris. you, Thank

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David Spector

you, Thank Stan.

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Andy Chang

David. you, Thank

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Stan Kurland

Andy. you, Thank

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our by any Relations encourage or we Thank email with to team Lastly, out reach investors questions phone. to you. Investor

Chris Oltmann

earnings discussion. Inc.'s Services PennyMac Financial concludes second This quarter

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