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Participants
Glenn Schiffman Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer, IAC
Joseph Levin Chief Executive Officer, IAC & Chairman, Angi Inc.
Oisin Hanrahan Chief Executive Officer, Angi Inc.
Corey Carpenter JPMorgan
Brent Thill Jefferies
Justin Patterson Keybanc
Ross Sandler Barclays
Kunal Madhukar Deutsche Bank
Jason Helfstein Oppenheimer
Dan Salmon BMO
Nick Jones Citi
John Blackledge Cowen
Youssef Squali Truist
Ygal Arounian Wedbush
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Glenn Schiffman

Good morning, everyone. Glenn Schiffman here, and welcome to the IAC and Angi Inc.

First Quarter Earnings Presentation.

Joining me today is Joey Levin, CEO of IAC and Chairman of Angi and Oisin Hanrahan, CEO of Angi Inc. Similar to last quarter, supplemental to our quarterly earnings releases, IAC has also published its quarterly shareholder letter.

reading letter be this not will the in shareholder presentation. We Investor currently of available is Relations on It the section IAC's website. I to Joey introductory the call a to turn we'll brief up then remarks, will few and it Q&A. to shortly make open over

get These like to to words may These preceded forward-looking materially this statements statements. that views remind anticipate our today. and or views outlook such I'd similar discuss by to may typically we we our that, and as are expressed expect, our we we risks such you subject during believe, we actual Before presentation, to results future performance. from here forward-looking uncertainties, and could differ be the

simplicity and with quarter respective certain refer Some reminder and I'll adjusted section our Securities Angi's and of the shareholder non-GAAP of for releases today to a include non-GAAP of We'll which reconciliations Relations letter Investor during IAC material risks IAC's, as comparable EBITDA, first measures, GAAP the all this measures. been and these press also filings the all you have EBITDA also Exchange to our three set and releases, call. full we'll Commission. forth as discuss which for again press Vimeo's our to in measures refer websites

jump right let's Now, into it. Joey.

Joseph Levin

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Operator

Great.

Carpenter JPMorgan. at first Corey question from be will Our

Corey Carpenter

thanks Great, the question. for

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Joseph Levin

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Operator

Thanks.

Thanks. be next at question Jefferies. Our will from Thill Brent

Brent Thill

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Joseph Levin

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Brent Thill

Thanks.

Operator

So from our at be next Justin will question Keybanc. Patterson

Justin Patterson

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Glenn Schiffman

entire tailwinds spoke, the and with some a on higher. obviously, headwinds hit to maybe headwind we think your the also - the the We first brand we The of frankly. year, that the for tailwind are change, probably still the answer this And But think maybe the quarter is slight talked a year about may see. we'll a XXXX, of constraint, unification good I revenue we notwithstanding supply for And the slight about headwinds scooch will year, create the a our numbers of have into which to way be headwind. tailwinds we brand question a is then even the sorry, headwind. comps Angi headwinds Services think massive And business. brand,

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Operator

next Barclays. Ross question Sandler at from Our is

Ross Sandler

going back Dotdash. Hey, to just Joey,

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Joseph Levin

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Glenn Schiffman

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Operator

will next Bank. at be Deutsche Our question Madhukar Kunal from

Kunal Madhukar

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Joseph Levin

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Glenn Schiffman

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Kunal Madhukar

Thank you.

Operator

next to Oppenheimer? we question, Jason go Helfstein can Our at

Jason Helfstein

of Joey, ask to Thanks. M&A capital. want more bit a about uses and

have in you when meaningfully guys had you've done spin the the generating flow. past, that cash more were So, businesses

that I verticals, that's So high, Obviously, important expensive be buyers you if the - I now. the business guess flow a not I post excited Vimeo to an extent been of to is about in you've generates everything first, think kind in and Dotdash. tend you particularly been kind in of whether more have which gaming, that have valuations right some now is think value-ish, cash guys then of

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Joseph Levin

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Jason Helfstein

Great.

Operator

question from at next Our BMO. is Dan Salmon

Dan Salmon

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Glenn Schiffman

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Dan Salmon

Glenn. Thank you,

Operator

can For go to question, our Nick Citi? Jones next at we

Nick Jones

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Joseph Levin

Sure.

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Operator

John our Cowen? question, can we to next For at go Blackledge

John Blackledge

Great, thanks.

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Joseph Levin

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John Blackledge

you Would within you build just one. Would - and/or sorry, buy other that? verticals

Joseph Levin

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John Blackledge

Thank you.

Operator

be Youssef Truist. Squali at Our question will next from

Youssef Squali

question. you, Thank taking guys, for the Great.

clarification more two Glenn. So I one from - have

about recognize not So, on a revenues, Glenn, gross basis. right, recognized correctly, this on on they Angi tell the the price, the Services fixed side, me if on I'm are basis, but obviously you as net thinking

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Glenn Schiffman

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Joseph Levin

question get it and very we'll in. let's We're one more Schneider, overtime quickly. through Mr. go

Operator

last question Wedbush. We'll at Arounian Ygal Okay. from our take

Ygal Arounian

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Ygal Arounian

the the XX:XX The - was split on second question or XX -

Oisin Hanrahan

Yeah.

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Glenn Schiffman

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Joseph Levin

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a thank for and we joining speak So us all to you in quarter. will you