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Mark Schneider Senior Vice President, Finance & IR, IAC
Joey Levin CEO, IAC & Chairman, Angi Inc.
Oisin Hanrahan CEO of Angi
Neil Vogel CEO of Dotdash
Cory Carpenter JPMorgan
Ross Sandler Barclays
John Blackledge Cowen
Brian Fitzgerald Wells Fargo
Jason Helfstein Oppenheimer
Dan Salmon BMO
Michael Ng Goldman Sachs
Nick Jones Citi
Justin Patterson Keybanc
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Mark Schneider

Good morning, everyone. Mark Schneider here and welcome to the IAC Angi Inc.

Third Quarter Earnings Presentation.

Joining me today is Joey Lavin, CEO of IAC and Chairman of Angi, Oisin Hanrahan, CEO of Angi and Neil Vogel, CEO of Dotdash. Similar to last quarter, supplemental to our quarterly earnings releases. shareholder quarterly its published letter. ICS

will be We we make this section a shareholder call will I on few brief and it the It will of to is then to website. Relation open not call. Investor currently letter the up the Q&A. remarks reading available Joey turn shortly introductory ICS's over on to

forward similar presentation, and I'd Before to remind These this expect, to These future during to we we our materially as believe, outlook uncertainties today. our that, we views and such like looking statements subject actual anticipate be we or are get the could differ may discuss from statements. views we that results may words, and forward risks expressed typically preceded looking performance. you by

GAAP Some reminder affiliations simplicity adjusted certain been risks quarter We'll releases IAC non-GAAP forth EBITDA the you and and and the as our today websites IC measures, refer to call. respective of non-GAAP the all will also have which also press in include SEC. Angi's filings EBITDA, a with which third record material our Relations I'll refer to discuss releases, of our these set for comparable the again, full section letter press Investor for and shareholder all during to measures measures. for as

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Joey Levin

quarter for they Hello again as as Thanks Busy, for IAC everybody. Mark. busy are. us Thanks joining usually always.

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Mark Schneider

Great.

Cory from be will question at first Our JPMorgan. Carpenter

Cory Carpenter

drivers of on had guided, expectation you Thanks you forward. was on for update Angi discuss first maybe an the for Angi, Mark us Angi you either you of services the to the I the could there, better in hoping changes then questions. second, Oisin, give and for so your than could Thanks. two XQ any or upside just rebrand going

Oisin Hanrahan

Great. Thanks Corey.

back second. So let for me up a

going. center incredibly happy to nine this we're homeowner how overall, we're put the ago about and So of Angi really at pro we at journey started and the doing the with months that's everything

referenced obviously crammed into you you change lot business. first year. services of into first -- referenced We've the -- a So the this this

I think quarter was last no different.

we case, we actually out pulled of plan out half half expectations. be. up XXX% upside year-over-year, case pulled services out business organic, take made. acquisition with in it to last the line our services that wanted case that to where in from pulled of in upside continues that we made in the to where the the plan roofing year for wanted our are we -- and of -- still mid we services our about with line So perform We We we we're QX the business

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rates quarter the are get -- contribution a in better strong can it's work. margin proven we expected, conversion and site the the on some than good. So fulfillment last was contribution that from It margin really spot. frankly We've needs

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I think the frankly. it's we're part a of sizeable started, still just Obviously business. getting

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out continue there, really that's how to as we're to progress build So excited really, and expect continue going to about see the team. we things well

we that then from than revenue ever than brand Angi in -- we the the the the In before terms than more letter brand. and generating any published are of HomeAdvisor rebrand

to still than you journey, rapidly job ago amazing with HomeAdvisor If homeowners you We've new the our have new think a brand which think that for brand. it. volume we're And we're has phenomenal, for experience we've, understand working is and a the done now worked our we've for we media who still brand, people coming work old drive to great continued transition. still spent mind to is brand. if aided be Angi, is to brand to the that to transition less flash you of left to up given for from We is And done. real share revenue and about yet and know think brand, it's -- a some but And Angi brand. on Angi back sure year We to list I have year majority old you legacy that off that bits Angi that experience the to that team tirelessly an estate the of dollars single a XX% about some drafting for that the the a work the consume make have brand sure obviously awareness SEO make that I us plus consume there's, other especially HomeAdvisor mobile helping new brand, pieces. don't driving

the handy retail, we've got stuff in some brand we've to and work primary other got we've to brand. going this over So got gradually on that

brand. the turning overall we're on So the corner

now about I of more with where and to into -- that I brand 'XX, think overall does a impact feel more starting taken can milestone brand. but we're the rebrand where to think, the continue it And starting from it. of positive come we've Angi revenue the and the majority to that the we see is we'll feel go

short the yeah, terms focus take thing this us most to In right the it for said to guidance to we've the this going the including We've neutral. important we've ground to for to not right pro where and in it's been or do stake range, acquisition. And, the to of term on guided where homeowner around EBITDA XX% we've in the the and flat, we revenue growth and on been put EBITDA. that where we've in EBITDA XX% thing

Some do better. quarters a might little

do but outlook. a that's overall worse, Some quarters might still little the

Our long knowing we there. as XX% TAM rate and this term to take much a obviously $X.X position over share growth got out get we've want possible market as to is trillion

Joey Levin

Yeah.

number said, we be which roughly just Angi then last on roofing that that remember take the what acquisition. little the that said on growth X% you Just, May-June foreseeable sort range, and a expect should was organic layer to add or Oisin give for our future of in to

you've seen July to I since think then, that So October, XX%. to range XX% between

line. the came product to as and push in Oisin in investment as to that's going said, we back that possible. make breakeven, best better, continue experience QX said, what Yeah, we of the then for and pandemic foresee as and future Oisin on we to continue navigate what bottom as and a just we're to consistent so expect but bit out push rebranding around as So that the the brand, into the this navigate this little

Mark Schneider

So Sandler our at be question will Barclays, Ross next from

Ross Sandler

Meredith. Neil the or A question for Joey on

how and you should cadence some half. think advertising near about guys term we first digital in in have the challenging the given comps guys, So that XXXX,

Second are what's meredith's they potentially, maybe to but we strategy You iterations lowest opportunities first are quick more what fruit to the pretty are and opportunities about these and or overall last call, around a print traffic the needle monetization? are print the Thank for is talk you. or business, hanging business. on what this lastly, like the going go lot then moving revenue

Neil Vogel

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to XXXX So read. that's maybe make tricky little to going a bit financials,

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Joey Levin

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don't we're transitional in very, get out. like. and on to less Bo all to laid want metrics and very, We the efforts we're don't relates that We we got done out. underlying as financial we're towards as what doing, particularly And push on changes financials We've we're big or costs not we've mean, objectives that, clear want but looking focused big decisions year, going it progress on much want to looks path because quickly So to everything those what XXXX, XXXX. push it relates I'm to a obviously want see XXXX, to relatively the reflect that I all the very that for out.

Mark Schneider

next be will Great. Blackledge from Are John Cowen. at question now

John Blackledge

IAC update CFO deal? search? Great. Maybe an the a Joey, like Meredith questions kind think look of on couple we for does thanks. about capital what should post and Joey, How the maybe allocation

Joey Levin

Sure.

half. probably So a is neighborhood about think a think the billion somewhere best and in I way of pro to forma cash

on of another of costs million we're related year. through right you And there's million over have, We raise then costs a course once now, to the that $X that for will billion going of get said that Meredith about we all cash up all clean debt probably we've in hundred the, have through everything, come the to transaction. couple and Meredith of $X.X the realistically

little We bit. have also we've talked -- a about this

some We to another that have which respect would point. use we potential is exercise of with a warrant cash, Touro that to at expect

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John Blackledge

Joey. Thanks,

Mark Schneider

will at next from be question Thill Brent Jefferies. Our

Brent Thill

been rate decelerating an on deceleration morning. has growth on was Good comp. on, comp easing the a a tough October Dotdash in also was,

if IDFA the tailwinds growth provide the experience your still organic you on can confidence any XX% on curious Just sustainable commentary an front. from they're and

Joey Levin

I'll take Sure. that.

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no term I XX% there was think I weren't about last things time Both year, supply fairly feel issues. headwinds. are there at long this those the good big any of target. chain

we last think exceptionally an year. period good had I time

that I think we're think things bit, little with. but are I comfortable guess, something XX% just, evening I think long out pretty I is in the a term,

Neil Vogel

Yeah.

the add last to remember in Neil grew which year. little point Just that the, of said, we the XX% the year QX, to on comp what, what a to is high

a is in. been it a So that that year throughout the two get year growth where tougher we tougher relative It's been, discussing closer came that we've stack competence. in October, would've something XX% to on to comp the would

a still So I of the then number. invite. would sort also really just highlight that And macro healthy

You other saw commerce businesses some of our, us Amazon report, business only X%. or up some

Neil what up what, of illustrates XX%, that still was just the last saying months, up marketing some the, in against our couple about over of around and that So the that, performance headwinds but the, business,

Brent Thill

follow through well. walk really And Joey you're what Can it's you quick search, side? just doing for a up on seeing on

Joey Levin

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Now display we've opened from advertising. the ability users up to acquire

and reliable It the reliable we site And well. continue drive flow the the downs. is some there segment, get us continue it's can that a and going now that at up year which change doesn't segment And that, And, ask been at something market will a where we beginning And, opens to view on a effort has monetization. think overall so and on is inventory cash that of for to this and, of that very, back generator, can my wean grow. cashflow very zero flow ups be and a lot really but into generator. started publishers and it's to can, has for

Oisin Hanrahan

Thank Brent, sort to you. numbers little bit, just of a understand And just there. trajectory the to the about you talk help

So a down XX% to, XX% cert growth QX the in was expect media, do that We for over ask to in quarter moderate, again, comp October. percent, X%. expect few in going accelerating slash the which and QX The throughout was forward. QX that total XX% grew months year last was XXXX hundred

easier So a, growth it XX% in saw an, XXXX. it was was that QX we versus comp the an

expect So into. still doing Joey that we to, moderate based and, and what still, we're all on, healthy to do but went somewhat, the things

The applications And, is is of desktop this search BXC year. marketing the our desktop. piece and we've earlier effectively stopped other of big which piece there, business, as that

you the And continuing, have no of will but marketing over the that. but really time. revenue dynamic continue that against of that tail erode to So

last given not in, expect not continued search ask, you're at of seen So from search that do we the in in, but the term. QX we've sort profits quarters. the, couple the, but, that We what's is healthy of levels why at on at jumped seeing profits long the certainly going

Mark Schneider

at Wells Fargo. we question, Fitzgerald next to Brian will our go So

Brian Fitzgerald

it Meredith, On of you like wanted categories to ask and share brand Do helps little CPG? around and you think into audience the ask guys. search more about the complement want site wallet about is speed, complementary if it, the the female older, tap a Thanks you to audience if composition. talked some monetization

Neil Vogel

of yes. I the all to answer think that is,

piece competes. really about, sort can And of things the the, also, this the you of food Meredith and brands we any and, is the instance, the wine for high the, compete in brands, one of take we're market think do just, and excited I of food which And food and the in Meredith we're, brand that of you any your is we line can that verticals end you user content go it the and like compare spruce can All piece occupy. And don't the don't recipes market. a of where where down to generated which supermarket sits, like the in or We place don't occupy. in sits, Brooklyn which you food the have to, is in sits brand. local Sirius like market of sit. heat right? we just a hipster to a are and almost a every take sort food is where They

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Brian Fitzgerald

Neil. Okay. it, Thank Appreciate you.

Mark Schneider

Thanks.

next will Oppenheimer. from Our Jason be question at Stein

Jason Helfstein

us. want total bit just Thanks. Hey can maybe ask what to more first, a is you, about of that perform growth kind how, guys. roofing Angi

another should And your funnel And successful, did extent how of much So benefit other that you four that should the a you three, verticals? that asset? top is to and more you're buy professionals mean, own, transacting playbook, these this was up then certain pretty I question service X% be may there, the moving out. professionals is is business kind just of you moving in on minimally. said Angi, while growing others service just get,

Thank So two those are questions. you.

Joey Levin

Thanks.

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you obviously to make it you sure going change what ownership do. was doing, what to is and everything doing So thought you want that

that in the, dimensions that's So two is one which the happening expanding we're geographically. business

So QX, in we're two three new going markets. QX. more markets, into new we'll be

funnel the We driving markets majority Angi. new of are of the those top in from

seeing primary in comparable that the in in, is leads The right early the markets. existing what source were Angi is seeing new overall we're conversion it So rates to read new going those in the of they three is markets, QX two markets, direction. QX and

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can that. I lot there's with we think do a

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Neil Vogel

in are buy we categories? us to small transaction other a thing that, I for out, but Joey a pointed mean, same that to was, do for relatively The going the follow on buy that financial up is as as, to change the business. business, this material

thing same other the categories. exploring are in We actively

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Joey Levin

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Mark Schneider

go So [indiscernible] we'll at Wedbush. to for next question, our

Unidentified Analyst

I have questions too. a couple ancient

from Andrew's where for of lot you coming there to, any certain there's waiting, is, constraints you especially quarter more categories chain bit path? add on less? around this guys about the construction longer first materials, a jobs, supply around then color So are Andrew on you is to line lot finish all, Thanks. been talked How taking contribution expanding costs improvement along that. it side also much waiting that having margins, that could an a Is labor just you at services impact talk, business, in especially is of especially

Joey Levin

Great.

constraints of seeing in pockets services. it in Angi supply we're and So the terms

product is fit the the around that However, there we strong at XXX%. plus XX half an through or the, growing have, so so market that percent it's effectively it

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capacity rate we two stories at pros Angi do see into services are such people Look, in we're lead fast the add the the supply able are the contribution affecting are year the constraints. was constraints over the that not rate numbers, joining year the terms of change Whereas contribution significant. on margin don't which but specifics get a supply of AED expanded to notice business, of So was, the exact margin. you the

that we it We the earlier the launched. in seeing particularly across board, concentrated are categories

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